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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: BGary335 on October 23, 2006, 09:37:27 PM
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I'm a little confused about this. Say for example, I download a disk copying utility from Aminet. How can I move the program from my PC to my Amiga? I would imagine you can't do it via floppy, since the two computers use different floppy formats. What other options are there?
Thanks in advance for your help!
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look up PC2Amiga, Messydos. use the search feature on this site as this topic has been discussed thoroughly.
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Oh yes, its relatively painless to use a floppy to move files.
On the PC side, format a DD floppy and make sure it formats at 720k, and not the regular 1.4k, and then your amiga can read them.
Make sure that your Amiga has CrossDos setup in order to read the floppy.
And PC0: has to be in your DEVS drawer.
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Sorry if this ahs been covered, but I'm pretty new to this aspect of Amigas.
Is CrossDos a seperate program, or is it a part of workbench? If It is part of Workbench, how do I make sure that it is setup on my Amiga?
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Which model Ami are you using, and what version of the OS.
The later OS' came withh it. Just read the manual.
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I'm using an A500 with Workbecnh 2.4.
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Do you have a HD attached to it?
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Yes,a 50mb HD.
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I'm a little confused about this. Say for example, I download a disk copying utility from Aminet. How can I move the program from my PC to my Amiga? I would imagine you can't do it via floppy, since the two computers use different floppy formats. What other options are there?
WB 2.1 or higher can read 720k formatted dos floppies as it comes included with a nice software piece called crossdos. For wb 1.x you have some freeware called messydos, which basicly does the same thing as crossdos. The only problem with 1.x, is that you first need to transfer it over to you amiga using a pc+software and a null modem cable. If you are going the null modem cable route, then i strongly recommend this software: http://www.amigaforever.com/ae/ (http://www.amigaforever.com/ae/)
AmigaExplorer is also included in the amigaforever package if i recall correctly.
The best way would of course be to have a cdrom or similar.
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BGary335 wrote:
I'm using an A500 with Workbecnh 2.4.
I believe that the crossdos driver is located on the storage floppy if you have it. You should copy this file to your devs to enable crossdos.
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My its been such a long time since I've bothered with 2.4. I don't think CrossDos was included, though I might be wrong, since I never bothered with it when I had it.
Choices: Get your Amiga 500 online and download it directly.
Have someone snail mail you a disk with CrossDos
Buy it from one of the retailers.
Do a direct phone connection Amiga to Amiga and transfer it from someone who's got it.
Upgrade that 500 to 3.0
edit: CrossDos in Storage in 2.4? hmmm. Gotta look at it when I get home.
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Buy Amiga Explorer from Cloanto.
Buy the serial cable recommended on their site (Belkin still has them, I just bought one).
Problem solved, with no worries about CrossDOS or a Catweasel, or anything else for that matter.
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CrossDos in Storage in 2.4? hmmm. Gotta look at it when I get home.
It should be included in 2.1 and higher. I have honestly not heard of 2.4? did you mean 2.04? if so, then it is indeed sadly not included.
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Yes, I did mean 2.04. :-(
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Then your only options is to either get someone to give you a floppy with messydos or similar or going the null modem cable way + something like amiga explorer.
Or buying a new set of wb 2.1 or higher.
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Wow, I must be lucky. I received today a large lot of software I purchased on Ebay a few days ago, and lo and behold as I was looking through everything I came across a disk labled CrossDos! So now I can install this and use downloaded software, correct?
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Yes... just copy PC0: to your SYS:Devs drawer, double-click the PC0: icon or reboot. Format the disk on the Amiga side (selecting the appropriate option, it'll be obvious when you see it) and you're all set.
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How do I go about formatting a floppy at 720KB on the PC side as was suggested by someone above? When I right click on the floppy drive and click format, it only shows 1.44MB in the size menu...is there a way to get it to format at 720KB?
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Probraly need to go down to MS-DOS level and type it in manually (heck it's been ages).
Or try formating it on the Amiga (make sure you select PC0: instead of DF0:).
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BGary335,
My experience is that playing around with disks to transfer files between the PC and Amiga is messy. I tried many times to get a PC to format a disk at 720kb, for my Atari 1040STe, which usually resulted in error, or the disk being unreliable. My recommandation to you is to establish a PC > Amiga serial connection (no more than 9600bps) and use an XMODEM or ZMODEM transfer. It works like a charm, and you don't have to worry about byte limitations on the disk.
The Wizard
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Actually, I've just found a nifty little program that formats floppies to 720kb without a hitch. It is called FMT, and can be found at the bottom of this web site: http://www.paehl.de/english.php.
Now, though I've got another issue-after the format, I put the files for a program I want to use on the disk, and then put the disk in the Amiga. when I do so, it shows two floppy icons, DF0????, and AS. The one labeled AS contains a drawer enititled Scorched Tanks, which is the name of the program I'm currently trying to take from the PC to the Amiga. However, there is nothing inside the drawer! Am I missing a step somewhere?
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Not really. Ah, using disks. :-P Make sure you purchase disks that are 720kb and you're not formatting 1.4 ones down.
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when I do so, it shows two floppy icons, DF0????, and AS
DF0:???? is normal, it just lets you know that the disk is not readable as amiga one. the 'AS' is the floppy seen thru PC0:.
The one labeled AS contains a drawer enititled Scorched Tanks, which is the name of the program I'm currently trying to take from the PC to the Amiga. However, there is nothing inside the drawer! Am I missing a step somewhere?
Did you select Window - Show - All Files ?
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Yes. That didn't do anything though. I re-formatted the floppy and tried again, and it worked for some reason. Now, though, when I click on the executable for the program, the system reboots and gives me an error screen. Any idea why that might be?
Ugh...the folks at Commodore must not have been thinking ahead into the future...if they wouldhave, it'd be much easier to move programs from the PC to the Amiga. :-D
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MS-DOS formatted floppies are limited to filenames with 8+3 characters. Probably some of the files inside the drawer got truncated to 8+3 characters, so when you run the game it can't find the files it needs.
You should copy the .lha file you downloaded on to the disk and extract it on the Amiga. That way the filenames will be preserved.
EDIT: Actually, C= were more forward thinking than a lot of other computer manufacturers at the time. Remember - the Amiga can read PC disks, but the PC can't read Amiga disks! :-)
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moto
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This brings me to my next quesiton: how do you open an lha file on the Amiga? I've got it on the floppy, but when I click on the file, it says it isn't executable. Is there a certain command i have to enter?
About C=-I guess you've gota point there! :-D
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Anyone have any idea how to open lha files once you get them over to the Amiga? I click on the lha file, but it just tells me that it isn't executable. If I extract the files and put them on the floppy on the PC side, I click on the executable file, and the flppy disk seems to be loading, but nothing happens. What is it I'm not doing or doing wrong?
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The one labeled AS contains a drawer enititled Scorched Tanks, which is the name of the program I'm currently trying to take from the PC to the Amiga. However, there is nothing inside the drawer! Am I missing a step somewhere?
You need to set WB to show all files. The files are hidden because they lack a file icon.
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This brings me to my next quesiton: how do you open an lha file on the Amiga? I've got it on the floppy, but when I click on the file, it says it isn't executable. Is there a certain command i have to enter?
You need to install lha first. LHA is like the amiga answer to compressed zip and rar files. Get lha from aminet and just copy the lha file over to the c drawer.
Then just type lha from shell/cli. I think the command for extracting is "lha x filename.lha"
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They are not hidden. I have it set to show all files. Please reread my explanation.
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BGary335 wrote:
They are not hidden. I have it set to show all files. Please reread my explanation.
I was a bit quick to press reply.
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Hi BGary, quite an adventure, huh? :-D
Ok, lets see, ok, you have the Scorched.LHA file on your 720k floppy. Copy it to your HD.
Take a look in your C: drawer, and there should be a program called LHA, which is what you use to unpack, if not, you have to download it from Aminet, or there should be a copy in that pile of disks you got. Copy it to the C: drawer.
Go into WB and look for the Shell program, which brings up a command line.
Bring up Scorched.LHA wherever you have it on your HD.
Type lha -x scorched.lha dh1:{name of the drawer you've got for this} and that should unpack the entire thing to the drawer.
If there was a problem in downloading the scorched file, it might be missing stuff.
Hope that works. Scorched is a pretty cool game.
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I enter the command line you provided and it keeps telling me that it cannot open the archive. One thing that got my attention is that the archive is called SCORCH`1.LHA, which tells me that either the filename was truncated, or there's something wrong with the flopppy. Someone told me earlier in this thread that problems often arise when you try to format the floppy on the PC side. He said to format it on the Amiga side, then put the program on it on the PC side. Two questions: do you think that has anyhting to do with the problem, and how do you format the floppy on the Amiga side so that the PC will read it?
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I'm not sure if the messydos or other PC disk reading software you're using (crossdos) likes truncated names ... someting like schorche~1.lha ... Just for trying, rename the file on the PC and be sure that the base name (without the extension) is at maximum 8 charaters...
Then if possible, and the Amiga, copy it from drive to the HD or RAM and decompress it from there (I hav the impression that lha'ing from pc0: sometimes makes it wrong ... i know it doesn't makes much sense, but I make this faded memory ... maybe just a glitch ;) )
for formating the disk on the Amiga, i think you can do a format PC0: or on the workbench, select the drive (PC0: ?) and from the Icons menu, Format disk.
one more thing : if you format the disk on the PC as 720KB using a 1.44MB high density (are there still 720KB for sale ?!) be sure to cover the hole on the disk on the opposite side of the write-protection switch... Low density disks don't have that hole and the PC drive distinguises one from the other type by it.
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Then if possible, and the Amiga, copy it from drive to the HD or RAM and decompress it from there (I hav the impression that lha'ing from pc0: sometimes makes it wrong ... i know it doesn't makes much sense, but I have this faded memory ... maybe just a glitch ;) )
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@Amiduffer
Type lha -x scorched.lha dh1:{name of the drawer you've got for this} and that should unpack the entire thing to the drawer.
That is wrong.
When making instructions to newcomers, at least make sure your instructions are correct. Thank you.
The correct command is:
lha x scorched.lha dh1:foo/bar/bleh[b]/[/b]
...where 'x' means extract, and dh1:foo/bar/bleh is the drawer to extract to. The last / is mandatory.
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Piru wrote:
The last / is mandatory.
Unless you're extracing to the root of a volume :-P
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Yes... just copy PC0: to your SYS:Devs drawer, double-click the PC0: icon or reboot. Format the disk on the Amiga side (selecting the appropriate option, it'll be obvious when you see it) and you're all set.
probably you'll need crossdos handler in L: too, if crossdos is not installed it won't be there.
check if there is an install icon on the crossdos disk for a proper install. remember not to use novice install (especially if you're a novice)
edit : oh sorry i didn't read the second page and see that he solved the crossdos problem.
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The correct command is:
lha x scorched.lha dh1:foo/bar/bleh[b]/[/b]
...where 'x' means extract, and dh1:foo/bar/bleh is the drawer to extract to. The last / is mandatory.
Whoops, pardon my typo.
If you want the list of LHA commands, just type LHA in the shell, then you won't fall for my mistakes. :lol:
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I just can't get this to work. I'm sure that its probably jsut something I'm doing wrong, I can't just figure out what it is that I'm doing wrong.
Question:Is it possible to transfer files to the Amiga using a parallel conneciton? I know it can be done with a serial connection, but unfortunately I odn't think I have any serial cables at the moment (go figure-I had more than I knew what do do with a month or so ago! :-D ). And if it is possible, how is it done?
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I've found that the parallel method is doable...however you need a program called PCtoAmiga. Anyone know how I can get my hands on this? I've searched Aminet repeatedly and can't find it there, though I was told it was there. :-?
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Scrapping the parallel method for the moment. I've finally gotten my Scorched Tanks program over to the Amiga via floppy. Took it form the floppy and put it in my hard drive. Looked in the Scorched Tanks drawer, everything looks ok. click on th executible, and the screen flashes and a dialog box comes up saying "can't open your tool Scorched 1.85". Anyone know what the problem is now? This is getting annoying! :-D
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I enter the command line you provided and it keeps telling me that it cannot open the archive. One thing that got my attention is that the archive is called SCORCH`1.LHA, which tells me that either the filename was truncated, or there's something wrong with the flopppy.
Just rename the file.
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I tried that, but it still gave me the same message. Instead of bringing the lha file over, I've tried another method-opening the lha on the PC and putting the contents on the floppy instead of the entire lha archive. This method seems to work, except that once I move the files from the floppy to my HD on the Amiga, I click on the executable and it gives me a mesaage saying "your tool Scorched1.85 could not be opened". Anyone know what the problem is now?
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Why not just burn to a CD and give CrossDos the finger?
You do have a CDROM on the Amiga, right?
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BGary335 wrote:
I tried that, but it still gave me the same message. Instead of bringing the lha file over, I've tried another method-opening the lha on the PC and putting the contents on the floppy instead of the entire lha archive. This method seems to work, except that once I move the files from the floppy to my HD on the Amiga, I click on the executable and it gives me a mesaage saying "your tool Scorched1.85 could not be opened". Anyone know what the problem is now?
The problem is most likely that the filenames got changed, which is why you must compress it in lha, zip or similar anyways.
Did you rename it on the amiga after you copied the file over?? Try renaming it to scorch.lha and then type lha x scorch.lha in shell/cli. Make sure that you are in the same directory as the scorch.lha file is. This should work unless you did something wrong or if the floppy is corrupted.
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Lou, no I don't have a cd-rom. I'm using an A500, so ocnsidering that I suppose I'm lucky to at least have a hard drive. :-D
Tomas, I will give that a try.
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BGary335 wrote:
Instead of bringing the lha file over, I've tried another method-opening the lha on the PC and putting the contents on the floppy instead of the entire lha archive.
Don't do that. As already explained, the MS-DOS disk format doesn't permit filenames longer than 8 characters + a 3 character extension. Thus, the file "Scorched1.85" becomes "SCORCH~1.85". That's why the game can't find the files it needs.
Just copy the LHA file on to your hard disk like you did before, then follow Piru's example for how to extract it to a drawer. That way the filenames within the archive will be preserved at their full length and the game will work.
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moto
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Ok, trying to extract from the lha file, but I must've installed the LHA program incorrectly. Here's whats happening: I take the LHA file from the floppy and drag it to the the hard drive. I go into the hard drive and install lha there, since that's where my lha files are. It installs fine, except that the three icons that appear are named lha_68k, lha_68020, and lha_68040. The last two don't work atall...when I type in the command and try tp use one of those two, I get some kind of pop up saying there was some kind of error, and to wait for disk activity to finish, and giving me the option to suspend or reboot. When I try to use lha_68k, it goes into the program but then tells me that the archive Scorch.lha could not be opened. Why is that? Have I installed LHA incorrectly?
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BGary335 wrote:
Ok, trying to extract from the lha file, but I must've installed the LHA program incorrectly. Here's whats happening: I take the LHA file from the floppy and drag it to the the hard drive. I go into the hard drive and install lha there, since that's where my lha files are. It installs fine, except that the three icons that appear are named lha_68k, lha_68020, and lha_68040. The last two don't work atall...when I type in the command and try tp use one of those two, I get some kind of pop up saying there was some kind of error, and to wait for disk activity to finish, and giving me the option to suspend or reboot. When I try to use lha_68k, it goes into the program but then tells me that the archive Scorch.lha could not be opened. Why is that? Have I installed LHA incorrectly?
Uou have indeed installed it incorrectly. What model of Amiga do you have? If you have the a500, then you basicly rename lha_68k to lha and move it to the C drawer on your HD. You must select show all files as this drawer is hidden.
Then you just go into shell/cli into the folder where you copied Scorch.lha and write: lha x Scorch.lha
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There is an option in CrossDos that will try to correct text files from MS-DOS format to Amiga format. Turn this off with the Cross-DOS commodity in your commodities drawer. (I can't remember what drawer Commodities is in but you should be able to turn off the filter that way.) I don't think that should be the problem since that option is usually turned off.
Also, did you install lha into the sys:c/ drawer?
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Tomas, I am indeed using an A500. I have moved all of the files extracted from the LHA archive into the C drawer as you instructed. I then went back into the hard drive drawer, which is where Scorch.lha is, and clicked on the Shell icon which is also in the hard drive drawer, and it still says that it cannot open the archive.
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If you haven't renamed lha_68k as lha yet, do so now. Assuming you have only one partition on your hard drive, try going to the enter a DOS command from the leftmost menu on Workbench. Type "lha x scorch.lha sys:" in the command box.
If it still can't open it then maybe the archive is corrupt. To view the files inside the archive type "lha v scorch.lha".
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This isn't getting through is it :roll:
Don't double click anything. It won't work. Just rename lha_68k to lha, then copy lha to the C drawer on your hard drive. Then open up a shell window and type the LHA command already given to unarchive the file.
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BGary335 wrote:
Tomas, I am indeed using an A500. I have moved all of the files extracted from the LHA archive into the C drawer as you instructed. I then went back into the hard drive drawer, which is where Scorch.lha is, and clicked on the Shell icon which is also in the hard drive drawer, and it still says that it cannot open the archive.
But did you rename lha_68k to just lha? You should only just copy one file into the c drawer and that must be the lha_68k renamed to lha or it wont work. The other files are the executable for other cpu architectures.
Then press the shell icon and cd into the dir where scorch.lha is located... type so the command lha x scorch.lha and it should extract.
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Yes, I have renamed it.
I tried the lha x Schorched.lha sys: command and got the same error.
Yes, its getting through. What are you reading? I never mentioned the words double click.
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What do you see if you type dir? Do you see the scorch.lha file there.
I tried the lha x Schorched.lha sys: command and got the same error.
I thought you said it was named scorch.lha?
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Yes it is called Scorch.lha, sorry for the typo. I do not see it when I type dir...why would that be?
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BGary335 wrote:
Yes it is called Scorch.lha, sorry for the typo. I do not see it when I type dir...why would that be?
It sounds to me like you are in the wrong directory. This is a good thing, as it explains why it is not working. :) Where did you copy scorch.lha?
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Got it!! I moved Scorched.lha into the Workbench drawer and ran LHA from the Shell icon in there, and it extracted!!! As a matter of fact, I'm playing it as we speak!!!
Thanks so much for your help, everyone! Not only can I finally play Scorched Tanks, but I can now find other programs of interest, since I know how to get them from PC to Amiga now! :-D 8-)
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:-D
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Get from Aminet PackMaster to unpack lha archives in a snap (no more typing anymore)
http://aminet.net/util/arc/Packmaster128.lha
(don't forget to setup it : see http://aminet.net/util/arc/Pmasterguide.lha )
For a great game :
http://aminet.net/game/shoot/DeluxeGalaga_E.lha
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:-D :-D :-D :banana:
Good work everyone! :cheers:
Blow 'em away BGary! :destroy:
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I have one more question for you guys: What does one do with ADF files? Is there a program for the Amiga that can open them, similar to LHA for .lha files? I understand that they are disk images, but most I've seen are a tad too large for a 720k floppy.
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You can use a program called adf2disk to write them back onto a real amiga floppy. I think most will fit on the floppy if you compress them with lha or zip. You can use winace for files bigger than 720k and split them up and use unace on the amiga.
You can find both unace and adf2disk for free on aminet. You basicly do this on amiga side: adf2disk filename.adf and then insert a empty floppy.
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Sounds easy enough. Thanks!
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Question about unacing....I moved an .ace archive over to the Amiga, and when i ran unace it said that the archive was compressed with unknown method. Is there a particular way you have to archive the files in Winace on the PC side?
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I've never used unace or WinAce so I'm not sure if I can help you with those, but if you want to LHa compress an ADF on the Windows command prompt you can download LHaNT (http://aminet.net/util/arc/lhant.lha) and although you'll still have to type the commands, they are the same commands as the Amiga version uses. Note: the linked file above is an LHa archive so you'll probably have to unpack it to PC0: on your Amiga.
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Actually, that's pretty much what I did, except the Winace program can create LHa archives, so I used it instead of the program you mention. However, I ran into another problem-after unpacking the LHA archive on the Amiga, I tried the adf2disk command given above by Tomas. Everything seemed to go fine, so I then clicked the floppy icon so that I could make sure that the file was indeed on the disk. When I did htis, I got an error that said there was a disk checksum error, and there was nothing on the disk, even after clicking on Show all. I know the floppy i sok, becuase I've been using it all day long. Does anyone know what the problem is?
Nothing ever goes easy for me (can't you tell? :-D ). :lol:
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BGary335 wrote:
I'm using an A500 with Workbecnh 2.4.
Workbench 2.4 on the A500???
:-o
I only know of the OS versions 1.2, 1.3, 2.0, 2.1, 3.0, 3.1, 3.5, 3.9, 4.0 ...
Never heard of v2.4 ...
:roll:
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To make a 720K floppy for use on the Amiga w/ CrossDos, do the following. Take a standard 1.44M floppy and put a piece of tape covering the hole in the upper left side. Insert the disk into any PC using any version of windoze, and type the following from a command prompt:
format a: /t:80 /n:9
Thats it. This disk can be read by your Amiga as long as the file "PC0:" is in "system:Devs/dosdrivers/" directory (on the Amiga, of course).
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Dandy, that typo was clarified a long time ago.
stopthegop, that's not even an issue. I have plenty of blank 720kb disk, so no need to make them from 1.44MB disks.
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BGary335 wrote:
Actually, that's pretty much what I did, except the Winace program can create LHa archives, so I used it instead of the program you mention. However, I ran into another problem-after unpacking the LHA archive on the Amiga, I tried the adf2disk command given above by Tomas. Everything seemed to go fine, so I then clicked the floppy icon so that I could make sure that the file was indeed on the disk. When I did htis, I got an error that said there was a disk checksum error, and there was nothing on the disk, even after clicking on Show all. I know the floppy i sok, becuase I've been using it all day long. Does anyone know what the problem is?
Nothing ever goes easy for me (can't you tell? :-D ). :lol:
Hmmm - if the disk is readable on the PC without probs, I'd assume that either the heads of your Amiga floppy drive need to be cleaned or they need a calibration. I have a weak remembrance that there was a tool for this - maybe on Aminet...
Edit:
From time to time I have similar errors in my floppy drive and sometimes it helps to take the disk out of the drive, rotate the inside by a few degrees and retry to read it.
But it might as well be that - given that your disk must be quite a couple of years old - there now is a physical disk error.
In this case you could try to repair it (fix in place) or to salvage it (you'll need a new medium or write to HD) with DiskSalv (from Aminet)...
Oh - one thing I'd like to mention:
Years ago I got myself "CrossDos 7 gold".
With this version there are no 8.3 filename restrictions any longer.
It supports DD disks (720k) as well as HD disks (1440k) and is able to read and write PC harddrives...
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BGary335 wrote:
Dandy, that typo was clarified a long time ago.
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Yes - in the meantime I read the entire thread to the end and noticed that this question was answered...
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The problem is not with the floppy disk, or the floppy drive. I think its another one of those things where I'm just doing something wrong somewhere between the time I compress the adf file into an LHa archive on the PC to the time I try to adf2disk it onto floppy on the Amiga. In fact, everything is just fine until the adf2disk part, because its after that that I get the error and that nothing appears on the floppy.
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@BGary335
In fact, everything is just fine until the adf2disk part, because its after that that I get the error and that nothing appears on the floppy.
Many games don't show anything on the disk or even show the disk as NDOS. These games require you boot the system from the floppy directly.
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Not sure what happened, but I just now turned my A500 on and put the disk in after Workbench loaded, and now the disk works just fine. Perhaps a restart is required after the adf2disk operation?
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I have 3.0 and 3.1 disks from my old A3000. Will the CrossDos libraries run on WB 1.3 if I copy them to my A2500?
Thanks...
Stivan
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I have 3.0 and 3.1 disks from my old A3000. Will the CrossDos libraries run on WB 1.3 if I copy them to my A2500?
Thanks...
Stivan
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I don't know for sure, but I don't think that will work.
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@Liber777
No. CrossDos requires at least Kickstart 2 to work.
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SamuraiCrow,
Thank you. I've managed to mount an Amiga SCSI drive to one of my PC's and I'm moving files via WinUAE. What a godsend this thing is...!
Warmest,
Stivan
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Got another question: I'm currently working with some .adf files that have odd names, and adf2disk seems to have a difficult time with such files. For example, one file I'm working with has a title that looks like this (x=letters of the file name):XXXX - XXXXX XXXXXXXX-XXXX-X.adf. When I try to run adf2disk on these files, it gives me an error that says something about not having enough commands. I assume that because of all the dashes and spaces, adf2disk thinks these are commands, not the name of the file. Is there a way I can change the name of the file so that adf2disk will recognize it?
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Dandy wrote:
Oh - one thing I'd like to mention:
Years ago I got myself "CrossDos 7 gold".
With this version there are no 8.3 filename restrictions any longer.
It supports DD disks (720k) as well as HD disks (1440k) and is able to read and write PC harddrives...
This is true, but you can only read 1.44MB PC floppies if you have a HD drive. No amount of software will read a 1.44 floppy in a standard A500 drive. Incidentally, the Fat95 filesystem is free, does the very same thing as CrossDOS 7, and is available on AmiNet:
http://aminet.net/search.php?query=fat95
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BGary335 wrote:
Got another question: I'm currently working with some .adf files that have odd names, and adf2disk seems to have a difficult time with such files. For example, one file I'm working with has a title that looks like this (x=letters of the file name):XXXX - XXXXX XXXXXXXX-XXXX-X.adf. When I try to run adf2disk on these files, it gives me an error that says something about not having enough commands. I assume that because of all the dashes and spaces, adf2disk thinks these are commands, not the name of the file. Is there a way I can change the name of the file so that adf2disk will recognize it?
You should be able to rename it to anything at all and usethe new name to write it to floppy, so just rename it in Workbench to XXXXX.adf and use that instead. Alternatively, to get AmigaDOS to ignore the spaces in filenames you can put it in quotes, so use "XXXX - XXXXX XXXXXXXX-XXXX-X.adf" instead.
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SamuraiCrow wrote:
I've never used unace or WinAce so I'm not sure if I can help you with those, but if you want to LHa compress an ADF on the Windows command prompt you can download LHaNT (http://aminet.net/util/arc/lhant.lha) and although you'll still have to type the commands, they are the same commands as the Amiga version uses. Note: the linked file above is an LHa archive so you'll probably have to unpack it to PC0: on your Amiga.
I think the reason for using ace is because he wants to split the archive up as some adf images are bigger than 720k compressed. I dont think lha can do this?
The reason for unace not working, might be that he use a too new version.. I would try a older version that is closer to the age of unace.
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Got another question: I'm currently working with some .adf files that have odd names, and adf2disk seems to have a difficult time with such files. For example, one file I'm working with has a title that looks like this (x=letters of the file name):XXXX - XXXXX XXXXXXXX-XXXX-X.adf.
Just rename it.. You can even rename it on the amiga so no problems..
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Hmmm - if the disk is readable on the PC without probs, I'd assume that either the heads of your Amiga floppy drive need to be cleaned or they need a calibration. I have a weak remembrance that there was a tool for this - maybe on Aminet...
Do anyone have more info on this? I have a strong feeling that one of my a500 disk drives suffer from this problem. The problem is that this amiga has problems reading floppies that has been formatted in a different amiga while the ones formatted on this works just fine..
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Nevermind. Think I found the problem. :-D
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Another question:I have been using Winace to compress my adf files into lha archives. I've just about finished compressing all of my adf files, but there are a handful that Winace was not able to compress enough to fit them onto a 720k floppy. In fact, it did not compress them at all-they were 880kb before and 880kb after compression. Is there another program for the PC that might be able to compress these files into lha archives small enough so that they can fit on floppy?
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BGary335 wrote:
Another question:I have been using Winace to compress my adf files into lha archives. I've just about finished compressing all of my adf files, but there are a handful that Winace was not able to compress enough to fit them onto a 720k floppy. In fact, it did not compress them at all-they were 880kb before and 880kb after compression. Is there another program for the PC that might be able to compress these files into lha archives small enough so that they can fit on floppy?
That is what i use winace for actually.. you can compress to ace while splitting up the archive to for example 710kB each, and then you copy those 2 files over to your amiga and run unace.
you will probably need a version of winace that is at least a few years old though as the amiga version is not up2date.
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by BGary335 on 2006/10/28 21:15:16
Another question:I have been using Winace to compress my adf files into lha archives. I've just about finished compressing all of my adf files, but there are a handful that Winace was not able to compress enough to fit them onto a 720k floppy. In fact, it did not compress them at all-they were 880kb before and 880kb after compression. Is there another program for the PC that might be able to compress these files into lha archives small enough so that they can fit on floppy?
What you really need in those cases is to split the file into 2 pieces.
Try Chunker :
http://aminet.net/util/misc/chunker.lha
On the archive is the binaries for MSDOS (run on a windows command shell) and fo course the Amiga verions.
The process is simple : you split the big file using chunker.exe on the PC and merge on the Amiga using dechunk13 (I think is the version of OS1.3 and OS1.2 - dechunk must be for OS2.x)
Is seems pretty simple to use (type the dechunk13 or chunk and it will show the arguments) but if in doubt ask here.
Good luck
BTW : If trasnfering a lot of file between the PC and Amiga, I recommend PC2Amiga and using a paralell cable (it has a name : somethink similar to link ... laplink ?! someone refresh my memory). With serial cables I never been sucessful.
http://www.winuae.de/download/PC2Am308.lha
I could not find if it needs OS2.x
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or try Kindred of Babble-on's solution :)
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@Tomas
I started out by trying to move WinAce files from PC to Amiga, but the problem with that was that Unace wasn't recognizing them. But that was probably because I'm using the latest version of Winace. I will locate an older version and give that a try.
@ptek
I seem to have a problem with everyhting I try to do, so as opposed to switching to yet anotehr program I've never used,I think I'll stay with the one's I'm familiar with. Believe me, you'll thank me for it. :-D
I've actually attempted the parallel cable method, but, as always, I had some sort of problem and gave up on it. :-D
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Yes, that is probably it.. I think i recall that i had to do the same.
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A quick turtoial on chunker :
on PC:
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Imagine you have a large file called bigfile.adf
so do
chunker.exe bigfile.adf bigfile 710000
2 parts you be generated :
bigfile.000
bigfile.001
so, copy both to two DD disks.
on Amiga:
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copy those 2 file to anywhere on the Amiga HD.
Put dechunk13 to C: or the same place on the HD you putted the 2 files.
now :
dechunk13 bigfile.adf bigfile
and then you'll get the merged bigfile.adf back.
simple :)
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@Tomas
That was exactly the problem. I've archived a few files using Winace 1.2 and Unace seems to be able to open them without a problem. Thanks for your help! 8-)
@ptek
You REALLY don't want me to try using a program I'm not familiar with. Believe me. :-D
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No problem :)
But feel free to ask if trying chunker :)
Remember that chunker can split an enormous file, of any type (lha for example) which is useful if you want to get an archive from the aminet which is lets say 2MB. In that case, ace wont compress much (lha is already a compression, not so efficient than ace)
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I will definitley ask if I decide to use Chunker and have any questions.
Honestly, I don't expect to find many 2MB files on Aminet, as there weren't many Amiga programs that were that large, and if they were they were split up into multiple disks. And even if there are lha files of that size, I can take the adf's it contains and recompress them into seperate lha's or ace's.
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One more question: Is there a way to use regular 1.44MB floppies with the Amiga? I once heard thatall you have to do is cover the window on the upper left corner of the disk, but I don't know whether there's any truth to that. Thanks in advance for your help!
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BGary335 wrote:
One more question: Is there a way to use regular 1.44MB floppies with the Amiga? I once heard thatall you have to do is cover the window on the upper left corner of the disk, but I don't know whether there's any truth to that. Thanks in advance for your help!
you dont even need to cover the other hole if you format it under workbench. On a amiga it works just like a normal DD.
But if you want to format it on the pc, then you do indeed have to cover the hole.
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It just so happens that I will be formatting them on the Amiga, so it'll be much easier than I thought it would be! Thanks for your help Tomas! 8-)