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Title: Cannot prepare Amiga HD with WinUAE
Post by: Colani1200 on October 23, 2006, 10:00:23 AM
Hi all,

I'm trying to partition / prepare a 2.5" harddisk for my A 1200D in WinUAE. The drive is connected to a Windows XP laptop with an USB to IDE adaptor and completely empty (no partition table whatsoever). Nevertheless WinUAE claims "no hard disks detected that were either empty or RDB-partitioned" and refuses to use it. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Cannot prepare Amiga HD with WinUAE
Post by: Birkwood on October 23, 2006, 10:32:28 AM
I tried that too, with the same result.

I believe it only works with SCSI drives.
Title: Re: Cannot prepare Amiga HD with WinUAE
Post by: Colani1200 on October 23, 2006, 10:47:48 AM
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Birkwood wrote:

I believe it only works with SCSI drives.


Somebody in a german forum claims to have it working with USB->IDE.  :-?
Title: Re: Cannot prepare Amiga HD with WinUAE
Post by: lopos on October 23, 2006, 11:36:31 AM
It does work. Done it myself.
Have a look here  Linky (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=19460&highlight=usb) and follow the instructions.
Title: Re: Cannot prepare Amiga HD with WinUAE
Post by: Legerdemain on October 23, 2006, 11:45:14 AM
What most people seems to miss out on (something that is clearly stated in the docs) is to use the -disableharddrivesafetycheck argument. Otherwise the HD's won't show up in in the WinUAE GUI.

But, yes, look at the link. It mentions most things needed to know to get things up and running.
Title: Re: Cannot prepare Amiga HD with WinUAE
Post by: Colani1200 on October 23, 2006, 11:49:50 AM
Great, thanks for the link, lopos! If I understand that correctly, E-UAE is also capable of natively using Amiga hard disks? That would be even better because I wouldn't have to use that crappy Windows...  :-P
Title: Re: Cannot prepare Amiga HD with WinUAE
Post by: Louis Dias on October 23, 2006, 12:02:06 PM
I'm saved!

Once I run DiskSalv on my old 3.1 partition, then my plans to rule the world through my CD32+SX-1 can finally be put into action...

WinUAE FTW!

To bad UAE FTW doesn't mean UEA For The Wii!
Title: Re: Cannot prepare Amiga HD with WinUAE
Post by: lopos on October 23, 2006, 12:02:46 PM
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Colani1200 wrote:
Great, thanks for the link, lopos! If I understand that correctly, E-UAE is also capable of natively using Amiga hard disks? That would be even better because I wouldn't have to use that crappy Windows...  :-P

You are welcome. I only use WinUAE so I can't say if it's working with E-UAE.
Title: Re: Cannot prepare Amiga HD with WinUAE
Post by: orange on October 23, 2006, 12:17:47 PM

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my plans to rule the world through my CD32+SX-1 can finally be put into action...


I, for one, welcome our new CD32+SX-1  overlords..
 :bow:



 ;-)
Title: Re: Cannot prepare Amiga HD with WinUAE
Post by: Louis Dias on October 23, 2006, 12:36:02 PM
Yes, with the help of a Palm serial-ethernet adapter, I will propagate the world (wide web) at speeds of hopefully 115k (no not miles per hour, but bits per second).

Only on Saturday did I find my dkb HIGH DENSITY disk drive!

...

Now if I only had an Amiga mouse...  Then my plans would be complete!
Title: Re: Cannot prepare Amiga HD with WinUAE
Post by: Colani1200 on October 23, 2006, 07:13:20 PM
Didn't have much luck with it yet, I'm afraid. Tried both XP with WinUAE and FreeBSD with e-uae.

winuae.exe -disableharddrivesafetycheck sees the harddrive now and I can use it. HDinsttools recognizes the drive correctly, but I am not able to partition or format it. Changes don't seem to be saved, I can't even add Smartfilesystem to it (yes, the drive is set to r/w in WinUAE).

e-uae 0.8.28 shows the drive on the desktop although there is no partition on it yet. HDtoolbox which comes with OS 3.9 doesn't find any drive at all. (What's also strange: I also seem to be unable to mount the hardfile of ClassicWB with it. The drive icon is there, but it seems to be empty).  :-?  :-(
Title: Re: Cannot prepare Amiga HD with WinUAE
Post by: uncleted on October 23, 2006, 07:44:33 PM
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Now if I only had an Amiga mouse... Then my plans would be complete!


You can try holding down Right Amiga and pressing the arrow keys.  Clicks are made with the Alt keys IIRC.

It's pretty tedious but I managed to get some stuff done that way before my mouse arrived.
Title: Re: Cannot prepare Amiga HD with WinUAE
Post by: lopos on October 24, 2006, 05:30:44 PM
@Colani1200
I tried it again this morning with AmiKit and it's working fine. No problem at all.
Title: Re: Cannot prepare Amiga HD with WinUAE
Post by: Louis Dias on October 24, 2006, 05:41:47 PM
my usb drive wasn't recognized but I may have to plug in the extra usb connector for more power...

Luckily, I have a ps/2 -> AT keyboard adapter handy, thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: Cannot prepare Amiga HD with WinUAE
Post by: lopos on October 24, 2006, 05:45:57 PM
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lou_dias wrote:
my usb drive wasn't recognized but I may have to plug in the extra usb connector for more power...

Luckily, I have a ps/2 -> AT keyboard adapter handy, thanks for the tip!

Did XP or WinUAE not reconized your USB drive?
Title: Re: Cannot prepare Amiga HD with WinUAE
Post by: Louis Dias on October 25, 2006, 12:41:18 PM
It's formatted with FFS and has 2 partitions.
When I checked the device manager with both USB's plugged in, it showed up there but no drive letter was assigned in Windows.  I had to unplug one of them (the second being for extra power) so I don't know if Windows lost it.

I didn't have time to try it again yesterday with both plugged in because I was setting up an old 933MHz Gateway E1600 for my parents with a clean install of Win2k.  So much fun...

Once I get the checksum error fixed, it goes back into the SX-1.  Eventually, the whole setup may go for sale by the end of the year.  I just want to make sure it all works.  My Wii will be giving me an internet connection in the living room with the bigscreen.  The CD32 looks nice using the S-VHS out connector.  If Nintendo starts charging a monthly fee for using the browser after 6 months, I'll just have to hope the hacker community get AROS on Wii to bypass that...
Title: Re: Cannot prepare Amiga HD with WinUAE
Post by: Piru on October 25, 2006, 12:56:59 PM
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If Nintendo starts charging a monthly fee for using the browser after 6 months, I'll just have to hope the hacker community get AROS on Wii to bypass that...

Just a question: Have you ever tried browsing the web with AROS?
Title: Re: Cannot prepare Amiga HD with WinUAE
Post by: lopos on October 25, 2006, 12:58:34 PM
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lou_dias wrote:
It's formatted with FFS and has 2 partitions.
When I checked the device manager with both USB's plugged in, it showed up there but no drive letter was assigned in Windows.  I had to unplug one of them (the second being for extra power) so I don't know if Windows lost it.

WinXP should not assign any drive letters to the Amiga hard disk. You can only see the Amiga partition in WinUAE or in an Amiga itself.
Title: Re: Cannot prepare Amiga HD with WinUAE
Post by: Louis Dias on October 27, 2006, 11:47:28 AM
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Piru wrote:
Just a question: Have you ever tried browsing the web with AROS?


No I have AROS Max .48 but I don't think the TCP/IP stack was running despite having an nForce2 motherboard.

Well, I ordered a 2.5"->3.5" IDE hard drive adapter to plug my 2.5" hard drive into my PC.  I was browsing the web with IBrowse back in '96.  But my other partition than contained Genesis and other application may have been an old PFS or SFS...or I just lost everything.  I did dig up a 345MB 3.5" drive that I may have had in a 3.5"->2.5" enclosure...that could very well be my other drive that contains my apps...but I have not idea where I have the enclosure...