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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Wilse on May 19, 2003, 08:16:40 PM
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Hello people,
An update:
After a rather wild weekend, it's time to have another bash at getting my Pegasos going. :-)
I have been advised that my debug files show that Quark starts up OK and to enable all EDebugFlags and QDebugFlags.
I'm guessing that this is the command to do this:
boot /pci/cd boot.img QDebugFlags=all EDebugFlags=all
I can't see anything obvious in the log files though.
Still plugging away..... :-P
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It's now looking like an incompatible CD-ROM or a bad CD.
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KennyR wrote:
It's now looking like an incompatible CD-ROM or a bad CD.
Hmmm...I may try to partition the HD from my amiga.
Or download another "boot.img" and burn it to a CD.
I've also noticed that I seem to be getting two different debug logs. One finishes with some info. on Quark, the other without.
I'm not changing anything between them, which is strange.
Oh well - still no reply from #Morphos.
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boot /pci/cd boot.img QDebugFlags=all EDebugFlags=all
You may have just mistyped, but the command is:
boot /pci/ide/cd boot.img
you are missing the ide.
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redrumloa wrote:
You may have just mistyped, but the command is:
boot /pci/ide/cd boot.img
you are missing the ide.
Doesn't seem to make any difference. :-(
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Anyone confirm that this part: "QDebugFlags=all EDebugFlags=all" is correct?
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you are missing the ide.
It doesn't make any difference. :-)
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Make sure you have the right cables. Also, double check to make sure the CD is set to "master" and is on the second ide channel.
See if that will help.
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Targhan wrote:
Make sure you have the right cables. Also, double check to make sure the CD is set to "master" and is on the second ide channel.
See if that will help.
Master on the secondary? i thought it HAD to be slave on the primary? I have mine as a slave on the primary.
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The standard if you have an HD and CDROM is to put the HD on the primary as master and CDROM on the secondary as master. This is how my setup is. You don't really want to put them on the same bus anyway - the CDROM will probably slow the HD down in that case.
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The documentation is lacking a LOT! and its not easy to figure out everything youreself! but to me that seems to be a CD-rom problem! just as with the RAM not every cd rom seems to be usable on the Peg a sad fact! try another one! might also be the ide cable! are you sure you have the right one? you might wanna read trough this a bit http://www.morphos-news.de/help.php?lg=en&id=inst
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Targhan wrote:
Make sure you have the right cables. Also, double check to make sure the CD is set to "master" and is on the second ide channel.
See if that will help.
Well, I have UDMA cables for both HDD and CDROM. I've also tried every combination of jumper settings and channel settings - but I'll try again.
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that seems to be a CD-rom problem! just as with the RAM not every cd rom seems to be usable on the Peg a sad fact! try another one!
I've tried three. One of them was five years old and was not recognised. The other two produce exactly the same results.you might wanna read trough this a bit http://www.morphos-news.de/help.php?lg=en&id=inst
I will, thanks.
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The standard if you have an HD and CDROM is to put the HD on the primary as master and CDROM on the secondary as master.
When I do it this way, it seems to hang before Quark starts.
With the CDROM on CS it also seems to hang at this point.
With the CDROM set to slave it seems to start Quark before hanging.
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I tried this repeatedly last night and it seems to be random whether Quark starts or not, as does the appearance of the "zlib" error message.
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boot /pci/cd boot.img QDebugFlags=all EDebugFlags=all
Can *anyone* tell me if this is the correct command to enable debug flags?
Please? :-D
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I have no idea. I have never had the reason to think about that, so I know absolutely nothing about the debug options. Everything just worked for me. Sorry.
Drop a letter on the BT2 mailinglist!
Hope you get it to work soon. I know how frustrating it is when you can't use the new things you bought. :-(
(BTW, you said you tried several CD-ROMs in every thinkable IDE combinations. My completely unqualified guess is that your problems is memory related ...)
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@tmhg:
I have no idea. I have never had the reason to think about that, so I know absolutely nothing about the debug options. Everything just worked for me. Sorry.
It's ok. CISC, on #Morphos told me. If anyone's interested (which I doubt ;-) ), it's QDebugFlags="Init", apparently.
BTW, you said you tried several CD-ROMs in every thinkable IDE combinations. My completely unqualified guess is that your problems is memory related
I'm going for the "two birds with one stone" approach. I will hopefully exchange this 512mb TwinMOS RAM for 128mb and a new CDRW, on my way home tonight.
I wasn't planning on buying a new CDRW just yet (already have one) but I would have eventually.
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Tell us when finally you find out what was the problem. I'm curious.
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Warface wrote:
Tell us when finally you find out what was the problem. I'm curious.
*YOU'RE* curious? :-D
I'm going spare! :-P
Don't worry, I'll keep you posted. ;-)
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Here I go replying to my own messages again:
I'm going for the "two birds with one stone" approach. I will hopefully exchange this 512mb TwinMOS RAM for 128mb and a new CDRW, on my way home tonight.
I wasn't planning on buying a new CDRW just yet (already have one) but I would have eventually.
I nipped out at lunch. He has no 128mb TwinMOS left, so I plumped for a 256mb module, as someone (Golem, I think) on #Morphos said he was using a 256mb TwinMOS, with no problems.
I also bought a new CD Writer, manufactured February.
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I nipped out at lunch. He has no 128mb TwinMOS left, so I plumped for a 256mb module,
And now I can't even get to OF - pants!
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I thought I had problems with my pegasos when I first got it. :-o
Have you checked the usual suspects? CPU module sitting in properly, cards sitting properly, DIMM snapped in, etc?
Have you tried the previous DIMM to see if it boots up?
I sincerly hope you get it up and running. :-(
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@sdesros:
Have you checked the usual suspects? CPU module sitting in properly, cards sitting properly, DIMM snapped in, etc?
Yes.
Have you tried the previous DIMM to see if it boots up?
It's back in the shop - I took it back because I thought it might be the problem.
Now I *know* that this DIMM doesn't work at all.
So I'll be taking it back tomorrow and getting my cash back, then I shall carry out a tour of the every local PC store until I hopefully find a DIMM that is on the "working" list.
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Well good luck! Are you able to physically carry your system into the shops and test it there?
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If you go to Bowlers with Paul to demonstrate the Pegasos, you will definately be able to get a DIMM that works inside the fair.
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Hi Nik,
If you go to Bowlers with Paul to demonstrate the Pegasos, you will definately be able to get a DIMM that works inside the fair.
When is that?
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Wilse wrote:
Hi Nik,
If you go to Bowlers with Paul to demonstrate the Pegasos, you will definately be able to get a DIMM that works inside the fair.
When is that?
It's on every sunday.
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Well good luck!
Thanks. :pint:
Are you able to physically carry your system into the shops and test it there?
Theoretically, yes but, practically, sod that! :lol:
Too much walking and carrying for my liking.
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It's on every sunday.
I see. Well, I definitely won't be able to get down to Manchester until beginning of July, and I was kinda hoping to have it working by then. ;-)
This Sunday I'm at the football - title decider
Next weekend is the Scottish Cup Final
The three weekends after that I'll be in Canada.
Once that's all over with, I'd still be interested in coming down though.
:-)
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Wilse wrote:
It's on every sunday.
I see. Well, I definitely won't be able to get down to Manchester until beginning of July, and I was kinda hoping to have it working by then. ;-)
This Sunday I'm at the football - title decider
Next weekend is the Scottish Cup Final
The three weekends after that I'll be in Canada.
Once that's all over with, I'd still be interested in coming down though.
:-)
Canada eh? Lucky man!
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Is something wrong with Canada?! :-x :-P
@Wilse:
So you're going to let Tom know if your trip brings you over to Ottawa right? ;-)
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@sdesros:
So you're going to let Tom know if your trip brings you over to Ottawa right?
Indeed. I've spoken to him via e-mail and the Mrs and I hope to get through there for a couple of days, probably by train from Toronto, as we'll be staying in Oakville. (He tells me it's five hours.)
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So I'll be taking it back tomorrow and getting my cash back, then I shall carry out a tour of the every local PC store until I hopefully find a DIMM that is on the "working" list.
I got one - a 128MB TwinMOS.
I'll hopefully get to try it out tonight, although I'm supposed to be helping my mate with a flitting.
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got one - a 128MB TwinMOS.
It doesn't work either. :roll: Chip ref. is different.
I finally bit the bullet - I've just ordered a 256MB one from KDH.
Price including delivery, just over 100 euros - OUCH! :-x
That's about three times as much as the local stores sell it for. :-(
Still, if that's what it takes.........