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Amiga.org specific forums => New User Introductions => Topic started by: ravnen on October 06, 2006, 02:52:04 PM
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Hi all.
Well. In 2000 a lot of things happend in my life.
Among other things, my thrustworthy A4k died (with smoke and everything).
It had been a wonderfull computer. Mounted in an aopen tower, with a 060@50Mhz accellerator with scsii, 96 megs of memory, picasso IV with soundcard, tvtunercard and networkcard addon, 40 gigs of harddrive space (scsii), internal zip drive and cdburner...
Well, that was it for me, I sold off the remains and started life as a Linux user on the x86 platform, and a year ago, when I wanted a laptop, I went Mac.
I was visiting my parents not long ago, and found a lot of old amiga disc (a lot of old games, and a few old amos games I've made, and never completed ofcourse), and even a pcmcia squirrel scsi card.
One thing led to another, and I ended up here, again.
And after browsing this site I found myself at amigakit.com and with a placed order for a a1200...
So I guess Im back in the game... :)
The only difference is that my "Amiga will never die, and will take over the marked" spirit is "non existing" now, but that does not prevent my for having a great time with old games, and the joy of seeing old hardware perform...
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Welcome :-)
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Welcome and thanks :-)
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Welcome back. Lots of "returnees" lately, myself included.
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ravnen wrote:
Hi all.
So I guess Im back in the game... :)
The only difference is that my "Amiga will never die, and will take over the marked" spirit is "non existing" now, but that does not prevent my for having a great time with old games, and the joy of seeing old hardware perform...
And yet another one returns to the fold. :lol: Welcome. I've heard of magnetic personalities, but magnetic computers?
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Yes, welcome back. I have been back from ten years and have built a nice collection of amigas. The last things I need in my colleciton is an 060 card or ppc card.
I have had more fun rebuilding my amigas in the past several months than I have had with computers in the past several years.
Magnetic for sure.
Oh, and AmigaKit is excellent. They offer great communicaiton, speedy service and good products <-- they are my first stop if I need anything
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Well, since I was used to the picasso IV card I guess going to AGA is a pain.
I remember a friend of mine had a ppc card with a gfx card as an addon. Not that it would fit in the original case?!
But is there any way to get a gfx upgrade without an pci extention?
Or is this the only way to go?
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If you can find a Blizzard PPC card, it takes a graphics add-on that can be used in a desktop case, with some modifications for extra cooling. Aside from that, you'd need a PCI expansion/tower. Problem with the first option is that it's no longer manufactured, difficult to find, very expensive and might be a flaky setup.
BTW, welcome :pint:
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As I imagined.
How about ppc cpu expantion? Is there some way to add this nowdays, thru the pci ?
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No, not yet, anyhow. There have been a couple of products "in the works", but nothing available ATM.
Have you checked out WinUAE? You can set up a fast, fully functional "virtual" amiga on your PC, compatibile with pretty much all amiga software out there. (Also emulates CyberGraphX.)
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Whats the fun with emulation?
Getting old hardware do things it's creators never chould imagine is what I like
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Whoops, correction,
(Also emulates CyberGraphX.)
I meant to say Picasso96...
Whats the fun with emulation?
Getting old hardware do things it's creators never chould imagine is what I like
I had a tricked out desktop 1200 at one time, and it WAS fun to browse the net, emulate 68k Macs and play Quake at decent FPS"s with AGA... but an emulated amiga with roughly the same speed as a 1 GHz 68040 is also kinda fun to play with. :) For myself, it's a both/and as opposed to an either/or kinda thing.
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well, since i have a macbook for serious (and dull?) computer stuff, this is just for the fun of it.
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And that's what it's all about :pint:
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Hi there,
I don't think that the spirit will ever die. I only own two A500+ Systems at the moment, but I will get better Hardware as soon as possible. I had the best computertime of my life using the good ol' Amiga. Did anyone of you realize that NO x86-PC can ever emulate the Amiga-Hardware 1:1, no matter how fast it is ? It doesn't matter if you use some DualCoreExtremeIntelPentium-Thing with hundreds of thousands of MHz, you won't get the parallax scrolling of games like Turrican II+III or Lionheart running as smooth as on the Amiga on these machines, the damn VGA-Chipsets still do not support REAL smooth-scrolling of videomemory pixel by pixel. It's just beeing simulated by copying the whole video memory pixel by pixel (see DirectX-BitBlt-Function). Yeah right, there are some things like "Overlays"... forget about them, you won't get the same effect, or should I say atmosphere ? And what about the harddisks, disturbing the whole system by telling "Hi, I just want to load some things into memory so just stop everything... of course I'm a Ultra-DMA133 drive, but I still can only transfer small blocks of data into memory at a time, just to be compatible... even under Windows XP ... :madashell: "...
Nope, the system architecture of the Amiga will never be reached by any x86-PC, that's the reason I returned:
Fast 3D is not everything... SMOOTHNESS rulez...
Greez
NuPraptor
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Welcome to Royston Vasey..... You'll never leave!
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Hmm,
ASB Computer (in spain) seems to have blizzard ppc cards avaiable.
How is the support for ppc nowdays? I remember back in 2000 that the only thing using the ppc was quake :P
If os4.0 ever comes to a release this will only work with ppc, right?
And I have to agree with what someone said in another "back to amiga" thread.
Back in the good amiga days I had no money to buy hardware with, but now when I have the money, I lack the time to use it :)
*edit*
seemed like they had it in stock, until I tried to add it to my shopping cart.
Never mind :)
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Huh? where have been you sleeping the last years?.
Here on my main pc, winuae emulates any Amiga perfectly, and the games run smooth as in the real Amiga.
Of course, i too use my classics everyday and have fun with they, but the nowadays options in emulation are pretty good and awesome so i don't see the point in blaming it, why, because it's a pc?.
Have fun with your Amigas(be it Winuae, classics or ng Amigas)!!!!!.
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I guess people play around with amigas for different reasons.
As mentioned before, for me the fun is the hardware. My macbook with osx is a nice computer, with all the power of unix. All the good old games can be played thru uae, or simpler with scummvm and other engines.
But thats not why I started beeing interested in amiga again,
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Getting old hardware do things it's creators never chould imagine is what I like
Exactly. (well, almost exactly - I would use the word "could" instead of "chould" ;-))
I'm doing things with my A500 that I thought were completely impossible.
And I agree about the scrolling. When I tried WinUAE, the scrolling was typical Windows scrolling - utter crap. I still see the latest Windows computers running things like the "marquee" screensaver and the words scroll across the screen with a pathetic jerkiness. You'd think by 2006 - with super-powerful graphics cards - that Windows would know how to scroll as smoothly as a 1987 Amiga, but no.
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Hello there,
well, I haven't seen any PC (up to AMD64 FX-62) which is able to work real SMOOTH in a Windows- or Linux-Environment. Of course, they work very fast, but every x86 stucks for some milliseconds if certain things happen: Harddisk-DMA (Windows is swapping the kernel again), incoming LAN-Packets, while the connection is not 100% stable (just waiting for the next ping), output to the printer via parallelport (good ol' IRQ7). You can't tell me that your PC does not, it's simply the architecture of the southbridge (which is still running periphal-communication with 33/66 MHz) and the northbridge which can't be run at full speed on most of the systems and the kernel swapping to HDD of all O/S. Of course the delay is minimal and many people today do not realize the short stuck anymore, coz they simply are used to it.
I don't blame the PC for beeing a PC, I just tell you that on the Amiga (even with connected Hard-Drive) you do not have this stucks. That's true for an Apple with G3 800Mhz, too. Or the Sony PSX1 and PS2 (ok, consoles, I know...) but not the x86 !
Well, I didn't test a Tyan-Board with four CPUs and extended PCI-Ports and about 64 GByte of Ram so far... too expensive, but it looks very promising, it could make it... as SERVER-CLASS.
Greeeeeez
NuPraptor
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Welcome back. Amiga rules....for me anyway :-D
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I know, I recently started hanging out here again; had the same visit to AmigaKit too. I think the scene is in a more healthy 'life after death' way of thinking now, hehe
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Got my a1200 from amigakit yesterday. It took 1 month to get here, but it was NOT amigakits fault. The customs was just a pain.
Anyway.
I am waiting to get my hands on a blizzard card, so until then I am stuck with the original 2 Mb of ram.
Os3.9 + internet was almost impossible to get up and running with that amount of memory, but textmode works.
Had to pull down the pcmcia 3com driver from aminet, drive off to work to find a pc with a floppydrive, transfer the driver (and a executable lha), drive on home again. And wuhu, I was online. Incredible!
Got irc working by telneting my server and running irssi on it :P Tried {bleep}X localy, but it was nagging me about not enought memory (as everything else).
Lynx worked fine too, in the sshell that was included with {bleep}x.
Also got my hands on a few libs i needed thru ftp to aminet (ncftp).
Looks like I remember a bit about amiga, even if it has been 7 years since I last touched one.
Great fun.
And I even have a Pegasos on it's way. But that has to do with my work (we want to use the efika in some instalations, and then I convinced my boss that I needed a pegasos to play around with :P)
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ravnen wrote:
Tried {bleep}X localy
BleepX? Either the dirty words censor on this site is working too good, or you must have named a VERY unmentionable program there.... :lol:
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Hehe, well I blame the word censoring thingy, but you never know :P
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My oppinion is that WINUAE is working just fine, but its just not the same than a REAL Amiga,
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Heisann! Velkommen tilbake til Amiga! Jeg var i din situasjon, hadde ikke tatt i en amiga på flere år, så fant jeg frem A1200'n min igjen, meldte meg inn her, og nå bruker jeg den mer en noen gang! :-D
Kult å se at det er flere å flere nordmenn her inne!
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@stopthegop
Hey...where in NYC are you? Im in NYC....lets hang dude!
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Hello and welcome!
The 1200 is an awesome piece of kit (loved mine to death!)
The guys at Amigakit will look after you, top blokes!
I've gone down the console path just lately (CD32 - a 1200 without the keyboard just about!)
Hope you have many, many enjoyable hours with your 1200!
Regards,
AmigaSev.
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Kvist: Come visit the crazy Norwegians at www.polarboing.com , a Norwegian Amiga/C64/Linux/Mac community ;)
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Ravnen: Great having you back ;)
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Well, one amiga... two amigas....
I just recieved a "new" amiga today.
- A4000D ec030
- Picasso IV (you just have to love that card)
- Cyberstorm 060 + cyberscsi
- 50'ich mb ram
- and a lot of original software and games.
I have a os3.9 cd lying around (and an xsurf), I just have to get my hands on 3.1 roms first, since the miggy only has 3.0 (I guss that it's not possible to use the a1200 roms?)
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Correct A1200 roms will not work in A4K.
Nice system btw, a PPC would rock but as i also know ,ppc cards have the nasty tendency to die.
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Velkommen tilbake ,, cool too see more and more norwegians here as well :-D ...
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McVenco wrote:
ravnen wrote:
Tried {bleep}X localy
BleepX? Either the dirty words censor on this site is working too good, or you must have named a VERY unmentionable program there.... :lol:
No, he was using C**tX :lol:
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moto
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So I managed to get the system up and running yesterday (did I mention that the first thing I did when I got it was to open it up and removing the battery? It was a real mess. I cleaned the motherboard a bit to. A new ni-mh is waiting for me at the post office. Right now it is without a battery, and looks happy with that.).
The accelleratorboard had ofcourse come loose on the long trip, and it looks like the connector has taken a beating. But reseating the card twice did the trick.
I installed wb3.0 (in the lack of 3.1 roms), and after a lot of trying (and a lot of failing) I got the scsi cdrom up and running, and the picasso.
Oh joy.
But a friend of mine told me that by installing blizkick and loading a 3.1 rom file, I woulde be able to install OS3.9.
It looked promising, the picasso installer allowed me to install it (while it use to quit saying that I need 3.1 roms).
When I click the os3.9 installer icon it loads up the funky background, and the installer box appears at the bottom right. Ajiff starts loading top left, but when that is done the box where the welcome image is supposed to go is blank and the system crashes giving me a guru.
Guru also appears if I try to boot of the emergency disk or os 3.1 install disk.
So I guess blizkick is not a good option after all, and that I need to order some real roms today?
If someone has a pair of spares they would like to sell, please send me a message. If not I'll order from amigakit.
Will the os3.9 emergency disk be able to use my scsi cdrom (cybscsi.device) automagical? Or do I first need to install os 3.1 and fix this myself first?
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You need a real 3.1 ROM for OS3.9 to work. BlizKicking 3.1 over 3.0 won't work. If cybscsi.device is available in the SCSI ROM after cold boot then you can just change the mountlist of the CD0 mountlist to use cybscsi.device (and the correct unit number). If cybscsi.device exists as a file in devs:, then you will have to copy it to the DEVS drawer on the emergency floppy.
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moto
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is the cybscsi.device in the scsi's rom?
So thats why I was unable to find the file in devs when I looked for it :)
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Just type "version cybscsi.device" in to a shell. If it returns a value version number without anything in DEVS:, then the SCSI device exists in the SCSI controller's ROM.
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moto
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WUHU!!!!
I am typing this on my a4k, I got it online!!!
Did a fresh install of os 3.0 (I am waiting for 3.1 roms from amigakit), got the picasso driver up and running (after using blizkick), got the scsi cdrom up and the xsurf card.
The only problem I have no is the scsi harddrive, but thats just a mather of finding the jumper settings for it... I have two other scsi drives (80 gb), but they are widescsi, so I must get my hands on an adapter. But thats in the future...
Now I`ll jump into aminet and fetch all the tings I need.
Any tips on how to freshen up wb 3.0 is appriciated.
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Try Feel'n. Really cool, similar to MUI.
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There are loads of patches to make Workbench look pretty. The best thing to do is probably to look through the galleries on this site and find some screenshots you like. Often people include a list of patches they are using so you can reproduce their results. If you see something you like but don't know how to do it, just post a link to the screenshot and someone will be able to tell you how to do it :-)
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moto
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Thanks for the help.
It is coming along nicely.
I have installed visualprefs and played around with the settings, also got newicons in. and png datatype for a nice background.
But how about all thouse non-newicon icons, is there a way to get them to be in displayed without weird colors. Or do I need to replace the icons for them with new one?
I got Yam and ibrowser running, but amirc is complaining about missing tcpip stack.
I had this problem on my a1200 too, but a reinstall of amirc did the trick. But not here. Any ideas? I am using Easynet from amikit (amitcp based). And is there a way to get easynet online without using the gui? I want to place it in the user-startup, since it is always connected.
Also, can anyone give me a name for a nice osx`ish dock thingy?
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Hmm, you know what? BlizKick did do the trick!
I am now running os 3.9 on 3.0 roms.
Works very well. I had to do something, my 40 Gig drive was unavaiable in wb 3.0.
But I have some icon trouble.
The glowicons looks terrible. The colors are all wrong.
the Newicons looks good, and now the magicwb icons looks good to.
Any ideas? I am running 1024x768 16M colors.
And what "hack/patch" can I use to change the menubar?