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The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Alternative Operating Systems => Topic started by: kd7ota on September 26, 2006, 06:01:35 PM
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Redrumloa and I came up with the idea that for ones who are interested in meeting up on either Qlink or Temporal Vortex are more then welcome to Friday night. I myself will leave my C128 on qlink all day. I have classes up until noon, but the rest of the day should be open.
Short explanation for people w/o a C64 and wish to join Temporal Vortex:
Download CGTerm (http://www.paradroid.net/cgterm/)
(For Linux/Windows/Mac OS X)
then once you extracted it in the desired folder, Follow:
Open up CGTerm
Press ESC, then press D to connect.
Type this in the address --> BBS.PETSCII.COM 6400 (Yes, there is a space between the address and the port #)
And after pressing enter, give it time to connect itself.
Right now, Temporal Vortex is down, but pray that its up and running by Friday.
If Temporal is not working by then, then you can also link by using Qlink. This process is actually a mess if you try to use a real C64, but here is the link for it:
Quantumlink Reloaded (http://www.petscii.com/qlink/)
From my side of experience, you will have to configure TCPSer4J correctly, so I went ahead and uploaded my folder of it on how it came to work.
Doffo's config of TCPSer4j (http://scatcat.fhsu.edu/~r_fernandez/tcpser4j.zip)
Once you got both ends talking with eachother, you will have to have Qlink configured as the website of quantum reloaded says, but once your commodore is loaded properly, type in
ATDT 5551212 once the green screen comes up with the type in the modem commands. After it says CONNECT 1200, press F1 and give it a moment to connect, and WHALA! It should be connected.
For those who dont have a Commodore computer to do this with and wish to connect to Qlink, the Quantum Reloaded site explains how to connect using winvice.
Goodluck and hope some of you show up on friday. :-D
I will also be more then happy to try to help some of you on this and please post up any questions.
Doffo
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Wow good idea!
it could be great to connect via real c64, but i don't have an RS232 adaptor. I have tested CGTerm connecting to Riktronics (rkbbs.net on port 23). Works great!! I have remembered me playing medina MUD years ago... good feelings
:-D :-D :-D
Where to obtain an RS232 adaptor? i have taken some time looking this Handmade adaptor (http://jledger.proboards19.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1156380922) but i have no experience with electronics (not more than simple welds :crazy:
i'll be there on friday!!!
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Wow!!!!!!I have no idea what your talking about but it sounds like something cool to do to your c64...
Well I hope it works
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I just got my 64 on Qlink for the first time last saturday, and joined #c64friends thru it.
I'll try to be there on friday!! :-D
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Great to hear some feedback.
I was also wondering how you connect through c64friends via qlink. I know at one point I connected to it because the room was listed in the public, but now im unsure how to do it since its not listed.
Definately awsome there are some of you who are gonna be on. :-)
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Great fun!
Neroflip and I just got done playing Hangman and Sea Strike on the Qlink games menu, and I must say, im impressed it works! :D
Another great thing is the mail options work on there too, so you can leave mail to people who use qlink.
This definately should be fun for friday. :-)
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really funny!!! these classic machines never let surprise to me!!!
:-D :-D :-D :-D
i have tested QLink with the easy install package for Windows. it's really easy to use (from here (http://www.jbrain.com/pub/cbm/emulators/QLinkWinVICE.exe)). i really want to experience this with a real c64!!!
we'll see you on friday! :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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If you want to connect from the C64, but would like to use your Amiga as a gateway rather than a PC, then you can use Serial Bridge (Which I wrote for this purpose)
http://www.aminet.net/search.php?query=serialbridge
Just bridge the serial.device (connected to c64), with telser.device and you can dial from C64 comms software (I use novaterm)
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Or you can talk your ISP into setting up a dial-up account which connects to the Q-Link server :-) I can actually connect to Q-Link with my real 64 with a real modem. Ummm, of course I haven't had time to play with this since I did it last year. Once I move into the house I will be digging everything back out again.
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This sounds like alot of fun. I get on the next one when I have my Commodore stuff working right.
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Wow, really cool! I occasionally check the old Q-Link member list http://www.sillious.net/QLink/contact.asp There I am on the list - Gizmo. Notice my name here on A.O.... gizmo350. I've been gizmo on a LOT of BBS's and forums. I was also KingSalami on the old Q-Link. lol I had no idea Q-Link was back up in this form. I wonder who created this? I thought this was the real retro Q-Link though... http://www.qlink.org/ Any old Q-Link members here? Hmmmm, do I have to fight to get my old name back? I would assume so since I doubt they have the old member DB. Is there any correlation between these two sites I've posted here? Well, I'll see you all Friday! :-)
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<- BungeeJmp, Forager, and I'm pretty sure I tied down LoadWB on QLR. I lived on Q-Link for many years, up until the unceremonious shut down. I still have a big F&*@! YOU for AOL over that.
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@gizmo
Its not like the old Qlink. Its the same interface and software, but the creator just reverse engineered the server and slowly adding on to it. All you have to do is get the qlink disk from his site and register with that nickname. :-)
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I was a Q-Link user back in the late 80's... "Buck33" was my nick IIRC...
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I heard that when QLink was killed, all the files were deleted. What files are on QLR?
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Woah Qlink. That brings back memories from 1988 (from the original Qlink). Sigh, life was much simpler back then :)
-Miked
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Wow! I wish I could connect with you dudes.............is this like some sort of IRC?
I remember QLINK from my old Commodore Magazines which I still have and still have Brand new QLINK paphlets :-D
isn't QLINK AOL now?
QLINK = America ONLINE right? thats who they used to be if I am not mistaken.
freakin cool.
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weirdami wrote:
I heard that when QLink was killed, all the files were deleted. What files are on QLR?
If they weren't just flat out lost as the equipment began to die. IIRC from my last contact with QLR, they are trying to rebuild the file areas with whatever people leeched from QLink before it shutdown. I have several 1581 disks full of Q-Link files, but no associated information on them to tell what they are. My master plan is/was to email the disk images to JB and let him or someone volunteer to sort them. (We'll see how much I get done after the move.)
There's a good bit of AOL/QLink history out there. But it looks like the QLR website is down :-? Damn, I've been out of touch too long...
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leirbag28 wrote:
Wow! I wish I could connect with you dudes.............is this like some sort of IRC?
I remember QLINK from my old Commodore Magazines which I still have and still have Brand new QLINK paphlets :-D
isn't QLINK AOL now?
QLINK = America ONLINE right? thats who they used to be if I am not mistaken.
freakin cool.
Yes, Q-Link is now AOL... :cry:
I rememeber that my wife would get real pissed 'cause I would always go over my subscribed minutes per month. After that, it was 6 cents a minute. Man, that would add up fast! LOL I would spend way too much time in that "Rabbit Jack's Casino" and chat at the same time. Real late at night, there really wouldn't be that many people online - maybe like only 100 peeps from the entire country. Not that many people were online back then! Plus, Compuserve was really taking off during that time period.
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Where to obtain an RS232 adaptor?
You could buy a Retro Replay and a Silver Surfer from Individual computers. That will work with Novaterm and enable you to Telbbs (Internet BBS sites). It does not however work with Q-Link. Homebrew adapters are supposed to work with Q-Link. I could build you one, I have all the parts, but honestly I'd have to charge you. It's a slow process and the parts aren't all too cheap :-( Alternatively you could ask on C.S.C., maybe you can find someone selling one cheap.
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weirdami wrote:
I heard that when QLink was killed, all the files were deleted. What files are on QLR?
It's not the original Q-Link. You use the original software on your Commodore, but the server end is all new, reverse engineered. None of the original files and such are there.
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I should also mention that it does NOT have anything to do with AOL, it's a hobby project. So please, no one call AOL insisting you want to sign up for Q-Link :lol:
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Speaking of NovaTerm, anyone know if Nick Rossi is still available these days? I paid and registered NovaTerm way way back when (#0012, baby!) For a while we exchanged emails on programming when I began working on my BBS software, which I wrote to be compatible with his file transfer protocols in the interim of writing my own.
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redrumloa wrote:
I should also mention that it does NOT have anything to do with AOL, it's a hobby project. So please, no one call AOL insisting you want to sign up for Q-Link :lol:
But if you do, make sure you record the conversation and post it here for us to enjoy :crazy:
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Well, I do have disks for version 3 and 4. I guess now I can find a use for them.
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@LoadWB
If you want. I dont know much about the files themselves, but I would be more then happy to try to have a look at the disk images themselves and see if I can sort them. Anything from the qlink would be helpful. :-)
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Already Friday.
Just reminding everyone who wants to join in please do so. Even if you dont quite have the real deal, you can rock out with winvice.
See you there.
@redrumloa
Ever get qlink to dial in yet? If not, I can try to help you doing so. Its a bit tricky, but it can be pulled off.
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weirdami wrote:
Well, I do have disks for version 3 and 4. I guess now I can find a use for them.
You can always visit the Quantum Reloaded site and download that version. :-)
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As a matter of fact no, still the same as it has always done for me. No idea why. I tired the standard tcpser on my debian slave box, and it sits there doing nothing. Then I booted the same box into Wintendo98 and installed java and the java based tcpser, still no banana. With the config file you provided I am getting debug output, but Q-Link isn't connecting.. Just sitting there waiting to connect.
I tried again last night for the first time in quote a while. Do you know for sure that the Q-Link server is currently online?
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I can't get on anyway since I can't find the patched version of qlink software for swiftlink/turbo232. It's mentioned in a few places, but the links don't work. :(
I did connect to qlink with terminal software though, so something is answering on that port.
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Im trying to connect to the system, but cannot enter the modem number. I'm using the latest winvice and have setted the options as described in qlink reloaded page.
What am i doing wrong?
Thanks in advance and let me tell you that it is awesome!!!!.
Red, could it be possible to access it using a C64DTV??
:-D
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Red, could it be possible to access it using a C64DTV??
Hmm, DTV version 1? Not likely as afail there is no user port. Now the Hummer DTV (64DTV version 3), possibly. There are some user port lines on it, don't know if it's enough to wire a rs232 interface to. Havn't looked :-) I do have a HummerDTV with keyboard and IEC though:-)
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@kd7ota
Should we move this meeting to IRC? I know it could be considered less purist, but everybody should be able to attend even on a real C=.
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im up for that!
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Keyboard is responding bad on vice, i can't enter the dial number.
What are happening?
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redrumloa wrote:
I should also mention that it does NOT have anything to do with AOL, it's a hobby project. So please, no one call AOL insisting you want to sign up for Q-Link
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Hmmm......actually I think that would be a great idea!!! if we get a bunch of us from around the world to call AOL asking about QLINK..........maybe they will pay attention to Commodore users!
even if we do it just for fun!
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NO!!! Please don't! Any attention brought to this hobby project may find AOL shutting it down! Just look how Amiga Ince lashes out at people who boot an A1000 with KS3.1! :-x
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Up and running!!!
It's awesome!
I will investigate my Pal C64DTV tough, in case anything could be made. I heard on forums, that the user port traces are already in the ASIC chip.
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Well for now, I am on:
Server: irc.eskimo.net
Channel: #amiga4cbm
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Qlink is currently running.
The odd think I noticed is that you do have to type in that fancy atdt 5551212 and wait till it says CONNECT 1200, then press F1... But what is it doing on your side?
If you cant get it to work, just use winvice and we can try to hack out the problem. :)
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Oh great! Now I need to find a router with more ports than mine (This Linksys only has four), and then figure out how to tie the C128 there. I may well miss this one, but next time you all meet, I hope to have these problems vaulted.
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motrucker wrote:
Oh great! Now I need to find a router with more ports than mine (This Linksys only has four), and then figure out how to tie the C128 there. I may well miss this one, but next time you all meet, I hope to have these problems vaulted.
If you got a PC, just winvice it up. :-D
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redrumloa wrote:
NO!!! Please don't! Any attention brought to this hobby project may find AOL shutting it down! Just look how Amiga Ince lashes out at people who boot an A1000 with KS3.1! :-x
Didnt know they got upset lol. Can't believe they even bother with taking action against it. If my product was long gone and people were still hacking/fixing the thing, id be more then happy for them taking the time on that. :)
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Looks like you Euros all went to sleep:-/ I'll stay on a bit longer, but I'm gonna switch over to #c64friends.
irc.eskimo.net
#c64friends
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Finally got to reorganizing the commodore next to my pc, so it should be ok now. Nice to have both machines at the same desk. :)
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You can also join up 'irc c64friends' room. Though it doesnt show up on qlink, just join a public room and type that exact name. Talk, though it shows nobody is in, there are people. :)
Thanks.