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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Markus_Bieler on September 23, 2006, 10:25:13 PM
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Have a look
Amiga Dev India (http://www.amigadevindia.com/index.htm)
Markus
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Some more:
Amiga Development India announces Asset Purchase Agreement with Ruksun Technologies Pvt. Ltd.
Amiga Development India Pvt. Ltd. (ADI), a wholly owned subsidiary of U.S. based Amiga (http://www.amigadevindia.com/html/news/22sep2006apa.html)
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I hope for the love of god its a hoax. :-(
Apart from the Amiga DE logo and name it could be anyone... the sad thing is a news post has appeared on aw.net from this company saying its legit.
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Looks like even Amiga has been outsourced to India. :-D
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Apparantly it was confirmed in person (Well an audio link!) by no less than Bill McEwen in at the Pianeta! :-o
I hope these guys find time to port mozilla and open office to OS4! :-D
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Official Amiga Inc news (http://www.amiga.com/news/?art=21&PHPSESSID=5bcbe4ab2402521baadcf3da818b62fe)
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Oli_hd wrote:
I hope for the love of god its a hoax. :-(
Apart from the Amiga DE logo and name it could be anyone... the sad thing is a news post has appeared on aw.net from this company saying its legit.
Why so glum?
India along with China are boom countries right now. A share in a lucrative market in an rapidly developing region... not bad news, just perhaps a future source of revenue for Amiga. While there is risk for any telecoms startup, I imagine a lot of consideration would have gone into the acquisition, including posibilities of merging technologies.
Jarrod.
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!!! what can i say? :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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The best thing about this is counting the amount of pages where you can see Amiga and Microsoft written in the same spot. It's great fun.
Jarrod.
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India have a large number of fantastic programmers - especially in Java. The average programmer/developer wages are around £4K GBP as opposed to 40K GBP in the UK. Go Amiga.Inc, the more developers working on Amiga OS the better. One of the Indian Universities (I forget which) was recently listed in the top 5 technical Universities in the world - I think the other 4 are US, Cambridge came in at around no 8, just below ICL.
If this is for real this is really good news.
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Boot_WB wrote:
If this is for real this is really good news.
but for who? i didn't saw anything ''amiga related'' except the logo.
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Guess we know now where OS5 is coming from.
Dammy
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yeah slave work in india...
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Sick from paxil (http://www.classactionsettlements.org/lawsuit/paxil/)
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the latest news from pianeta amiga are clear enough now.
what a timing after the 25 answers of Billy boy at amiga.org :-)
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c64_d0c wrote:
yeah slave work in india...
While the US licks its economic wounds and distracted with skirmishes far from and irrelevant to its borders, India and China are emerging as new powerhouses in the world economy. The workforce in these countries lack the apathy of other nations while all the while acquiring increasingly better standards of living and a large appetite for modern consumer goods (like mobiles).
Of course, capitalism follows whatever countries provide the best opportunities (even in 'communist' China). A large, highly skilled contigent of professionals are emerging from India and, given a very favourable currency, multinationals (including Amiga) have their best revenue interests at heart to utilise such a resource pool.
From the indian workers' point of view, its good money. From Amiga's point of view, its good profit. Everybody wins (except those without a job).
Jarrod.
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Okay...I assume then (since it only lasts one year) that they intend to leave all their customers stranded once said domain expires...like EyeTech. The only difference being that it'll just expire instead of redirecting you.
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Last updared when??? Clueless. If it hasn't been updated since it's inception, then don't include the line in the output. DUH!!!
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Where are they really located. I doubt it's in Redmond....
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Sounds like they're screwed no matter whether they do anything about it or not...
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Thankyou,
Come Again !
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amije wrote:
Boot_WB wrote:
If this is for real this is really good news.
but for who? i didn't saw anything ''amiga related'' except the logo.
I don't think this is for building or improving AmigaOS. It is likely a source of revenue for Amiga Inc. AmigaDevIndia would likely be developing apps on top of the AmigaAnywhere layer to provide solutions for mobile companies.
Mobile software was the original focus of the Indian company anyway so it's a less risky prospect then shifting the workforce to work for AmigaOS. But the idea of the acquisition will be to yield sustainable cash flow from what appears to be a solid company with a steady stream of work from established clients.
But I only ever speculate ;)
Jarrod.
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Did anyone see my post....???
I was just drawing one of the most likely conclusions if they keep up their tactics...
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Searching the web this is what I found...
"Amiga Inc. is pleased to
announce that it has reached an agreement with Ruksun Software Technologies to
bring its award winning Messenger Force and IMAP Force products to Amiga."
www.prnewswire.com (http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/08-23-2000/0001297265&EDATE=)
This is interesting:
ruksun.com (http://www.ruksun.com/html/aboutruksun_partners.htm)
Seems to be the same site w/o the Amiga Logo.
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While the US licks its economic wounds
I don't think (https://bea.gov/bea/newsrel/gdpnewsrelease.htm) so.
Dammy
Who needs OS4?
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@Amiga1k,
Did you really expect a response from that nonsense?
:crazy:
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Oli_hd wrote:
I hope for the love of god its a hoax. :-(
Apart from the Amiga DE logo and name it could be anyone... the sad thing is a news post has appeared on aw.net from this company saying its legit.
How is this a bad thing?
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Well, obviously. Amiga bought Ruksun.com, as the press release stated. Ruksun was a Amiga(DE) partner before, that's what this other press release states. Makes sence, doesn't it.
I would be interessted, if that means, if all OS4++ work will be done by that company, or if they are more ment to add services on top of the OS, or target the whole market, e.g. solutions for common mobile devices, not focused on AmigaOS.
Or in short, what impact this aquisition will have on the future AmigaOS development (not necessarily AmigaOS4, but the next generation). Manpower would be probably sufficient to accelerate the development, ... but then, they could also just add services to the OS specifically targeting the mobile market.
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Well the Ruksun site indeed seems to be the same without the Amiga logo and the Amiga DE in mobile software page on the technology part. Technology -> Mobile platforms.
So I would not take it for granted before news on the Ruksun own site is shown. Now their latest news is from 2004.
Some old "deals" with Nokia, Corel etc. comes to my mind. Just wanted to point this out. Hope its true this time...
Webba
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:-?
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GadgetMaster wrote:
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With the recent McEwen open-letter, let's go ahead and call this one true. :eureka:
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Well the Ruksun site indeed seems to be the same without the Amiga logo and the Amiga DE in mobile software page on the technology part. Technology -> Mobile platforms.
Not that that page is especially impressive to begin with - Series 40 isn't Symbian based, and it's missing any mention of anything that shipped since about 2005. Whatever Amiga bought there, it seems fairly clear that they're not especially interested in obtaining new clients.
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I see a lot of Microsoft and .net being mentioned on that website..
Whats does that have to do with new Amiga hardware or OS4?
Really this guy is acting so clueless it's hard to believe he doesn't get paid for completely destroying whats left of integrity in the Amiga brand name.
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India along with China are boom countries right now. A share in a lucrative market in an rapidly developing region... not bad news, just perhaps a future source of revenue for Amiga. Jarrod.
In my experiences it's a bottom line thing instead of any great love for Chinese or Indian markets or culture. It's a classic 2,3,4, or even 5 for one deal.... Up to Five Indian or Chinese employees for the price of one US counterpart.
Even if there is a slight loss in quality or customer support. The costs savings is unbeatable. This savings pays for Stateside receptionists, bonuses, tradeshows, hotel stays and allows the remaining stateside crew to SOMETIMES earn better salaries. This depends on the US division s company policy and if they know how to"take care" of their team. Someimes the revenue is distributed to upper management only.
If you're not an executive or in management or administration sadly... you could be out of a job.
China pumps out an incredible amount of skilled engineers who arent paying 40K a year to go to school (many go for free). I met a couple who learned to speak PERFECT English with a non regional accent. (They could'nt get slang like "He kicked the Bucket" though... lol!)
The US can't even begin to compete with that. In the 50's student loans and grants were initiated to give students an edge and go to school, since we were competing with the USSR and communist system where cheap education was the norm...
The craziness here is that you have CEO's of major companies advocating outsourcing to stay competetive when basic common sense dictates that you want systems in place that give us the technical expertise to handle all that work.
It's great for us who want Mini-MIGS but many US workers are feeling the pinch. I think the media has somekind of reality distortion field becuase this isn't covered nearly as much as it should be.
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dammy wrote:
While the US licks its economic wounds
I don't think (https://bea.gov/bea/newsrel/gdpnewsrelease.htm) so.
Dammy
Who needs OS4?
Um, dammy. The GDP grew at 3.5%, while inflation was at 4%, which mean a let loss of half a percent.... End result, the economy continues to shrink, has for the past 6 years. Add in the devaluation of the dollar, and we're looking at double-digit inflation rates, properly.
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Okay...I assume then (since it only lasts one year) that they intend to leave all their customers stranded once said domain expires...like EyeTech. The only difference being that it'll just expire instead of redirecting you.
anyone check the name on whois lately?
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no, all it means is that they paid for 1 year for the domain.
I'd assume Ruksun is real and it makes sense for Amiga Incompetent. They want easy money with minimal investment. That is why they did the Cinemaware deal, even though you can go to Cinemaware's Vault (http://www.cinemaware.com/vault.asp?vault=games) and download the games for FREE... add WinUAE/EUAE and you saved yourself $5 (or however many games you were going to buy x 5)
Face it, AI cant live off of the community because of the anger towards them and there really arent many people willing to invest in a system which has almost 0 commercial support (read: REAL SOFTWARE). Thats why they're doing the windows thing.
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downix wrote:
dammy wrote:
While the US licks its economic wounds
I don't think (https://bea.gov/bea/newsrel/gdpnewsrelease.htm) so.
Dammy
Who needs OS4?
Um, dammy. The GDP grew at 3.5%, while inflation was at 4%, which mean a let loss of half a percent.... End result, the economy continues to shrink, has for the past 6 years. Add in the devaluation of the dollar, and we're looking at double-digit inflation rates, properly.
My post and Dammy's response is now a year old. I'd like to gloat about how right I was that China was about ready to kick US economic ass, but unfortunately Australia's economy is also intrinsically linked with the US. I'm sure the aftershocks of the recent US correction will translate locally in the coming months. Though I will hope for the opposite.
Jarrod
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jarrody2k wrote:
downix wrote:
dammy wrote:
While the US licks its economic wounds
I don't think (https://bea.gov/bea/newsrel/gdpnewsrelease.htm) so.
Dammy
Who needs OS4?
Um, dammy. The GDP grew at 3.5%, while inflation was at 4%, which mean a let loss of half a percent.... End result, the economy continues to shrink, has for the past 6 years. Add in the devaluation of the dollar, and we're looking at double-digit inflation rates, properly.
My post and Dammy's response is now a year old. I'd like to gloat about how right I was that China was about ready to kick US economic ass, but unfortunately Australia's economy is also intrinsically linked with the US. I'm sure the aftershocks of the recent US correction will translate locally in the coming months. Though I will hope for the opposite.
Jarrod
Our best hope is that the stock market can figure out that it is messing itself up through their attempt to "buy/sell/trade" commodities like housing, stock flips, etc. To be stable, to gain real long term returns, any good stock investor will tell you to buy for the long term. But the current trading practices are not designed for that, and look at the mess they're in. *shrug*
One way or another they will be forced to change their ways.
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Interesting indeed