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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: redrumloa on May 15, 2003, 06:26:15 PM
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Just mailed out a check for the tickets and banquet. I'll be reserving hotel and plane tickets in a minute or 2:-) Believe it or not this will be my first Amiga show. There have never been any in this part of the country, so I finally decided I will fly all the way to the left coast to see one. What the hell? Things are exciting now with alot of things happening on the alternative platform and the possibility that the official platform may be finished this year. Should be interesting!
I'll be there and I'm bringing an ex-Amigan friend(since the wife won't go). So are YOU going to be there? If I can fly from Florida to California what is YOUR excuse if you're not? :-?
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what is YOUR excuse if you're not? :-?
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I'm in the wrong continent :-(
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Melissa and I will be there. Most of the "Huntsville Mafia" will be there. That makes... a few anyway. Digital and video cameras abound.
If Tigger and I could figure out how to broadcast via his Video setup (Toaster PC/etc) we certainly would be doing that. The trouble is getting bandwidth.
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@Wayne
That's great! And you're going to be THE guest speaker at the banquet right? :-D
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California?!? Would someone mind paying for my plane ticket for me? :-)
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That's great! And you're going to be THE guest speaker at the banquet right?
I don't want to discourage anyone from attending the banquet, but I (and my crew) will only go to the banquet if the guest speaker is someone aside from Bill McEwen or "Fleecy" Moss.
With all due respect honestly intended, I believe I've heard about enough out of those two...
That being said, I would LOVE and pay for the banquet if they allowed time to both McEwen and Bill Buck to make presentations. It would be interesting I think to see the two in contrast. The chances of that happening however are slim to none at best.
Wayne
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I don't want to discourage anyone from attending the banquet, but I (and my crew) will only go to the banquet if the guest speaker is someone aside from Bill McEwen or "Fleecy" Moss.
I thought I read you were scheduled to speak at the banquet :-? Seriously! Damn :-(
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I thought I read you were scheduled to speak at the banquet Seriously! Damn
You know me, I am ALWAYS willing to talk about stuff, but it's honestly the first I've heard of it. :-)
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I'd be more intersted in a "debate" between McEwen and Bill Buck, let them tell/discuss the stories about their companies and the FUD between them.. Afterall, we never hear from them at the same time.
Anyway, let's just give us a nice big show report afterwards.. :-D
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@Wayne
I don't want to discourage anyone from attending the banquet, but I (and my crew) will only go to the banquet if the guest speaker is someone aside from Bill McEwen or "Fleecy" Moss.
So, one step in your search for the "truth" in this mess is to stop listen to one of the sides? Sounds more like a "blind follower"-thing to me....
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Afterall, we never hear from them at the same time.
Does that mean they are one & the same person ?
Ala .. Michael & Latoya jackson !!
btw ... If your taking my daughter to California, Wayne , It would be good manners to ask the wife & I first yeah ?? :-o
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So, one step in your search for the "truth" in this mess is to stop listen to one of the sides? Sounds more like a "blind follower"-thing to me....
This is a comment that you sir (or madam) are not qualified to make whatsoever.
I and my friends have paid on average, about $90.00 per year, every single year since 1997 to hear Amiga Inc speak. I have personally heard Bill McEwen speak on at least 6 occassions at shows over the last few years. Out of all those shows, and all those speeches, not a single solitary thing that we have ever been told has come true with the exception of the (now) presence of the AmigaOne motherboard (which incidentally was promised to initially available in 2001).
As such, in my eyes, I simply see absolutely no reason for me personally to spend another dime to watch the "magic show". Like a child who has seen the circus one too many times, watching the clowns get in and out of the tiny car loses it's fascination.
As I said however, I'd be more than enthusiastic to see the AmiWest crew allow both of them a bit of time to make their case, on the same stage.
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Does that mean they are one & the same person ?
Somebody's been watching a bit to much TV methinks :-P
Ala .. Michael & Latoya jackson !!
... To many horror movies perhaps ? :-o
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Like a child who has seen the circus one too many times, watching the clowns get in and out of the tiny car loses it's fascination.
:lol: Good analogy!
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Wayne wrote:
That being said, I would LOVE and pay for the banquet if they allowed time to both McEwen and Bill Buck to make presentations. It would be interesting I think to see the two in contrast. The chances of that happening however are slim to none at best.
I know many evil people who'd pay good money to watch the awkward moment when the two Bills bump into each other :-)
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I know many evil people who'd pay good money to watch the awkward moment when the two Bills bump into each other
LOL Bill Mc would shrill like a girl and Bill B would fight dirty and kick him in the groin? I'd pay to see that too. Or maybe it would just be a cat fight like two broads going at it?
The above is just a joke, well except the part where I say I'd pay to see it;-)
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In all seriousness I will be bringing cash in hand to purchase the the Pegasos G4 upgrade and other goodies to compliment my Peggy. It's nice to have a shipped product in hand that works FAAAST.
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I'll be there and I'm bringing an ex-Amigan friend(since the wife won't go). So are YOU going to be there? If I can fly from Florida to California what is YOUR excuse if you're not? :-?
I refuse to fly as long as I am treated as a criminal for wanting to get on an airplane.
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redrumloa wrote:
If I can fly from Florida to California what is YOUR excuse if you're not? :-?
Um, there won't be anything to see there?
There isn't a new Amiga or Amiga OS, there won't be a new Amiga nor Amiga OS at the show...
Really, why go? I remember going to WoC - literally thousands of attendees. I just can't bring myself to go to what amounts to a retro-computing flea market these days.
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There isn't a new Amiga or Amiga OS, there won't be a new Amiga nor Amiga OS at the show...
If Linux running on the AmigaOne doesn't float your boat, what's wrong with going to see MOS on Pegasos? You may actually like it! :-?
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Perhaps there may be a more recent beta of OS4 running at Amiwest on the A4K or perhaps with any given luck, running on the AmigaOne.
I guess time will tell and Amiwest is still alittle while of yet but it be nice if Hyperion do get something together for this show.
I know you can only make a first impression once though.
And for those of us who can't attend the show, i do hope Bill "Tekmage" Borsari does his usual Webcam and audio streaming from the show, always a hoot :-)
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Calen wrote:
And for those of us who can't attend the show, i do hope Bill "Tekmage" Borsari does his usual Webcam and audio streaming from the show, always a hoot :-)
I'll be glued to the broadcast as I have been every year. It's almost a ritual for me :-) Dispite living on the wrong side of the ocean I've always enjoyed the US amiga shows!!!
Thanks Bill for providing the excellent service :-D
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I'll be glued to the broadcast as I have been every year. It's almost a ritual for me
Yeah they have been quite alot of fun over the past few years, Tekmage has lined up some entertaining guest speakers, and there is never a shortage of laughs :-)
Its a close as some of us will get for the bigger u.s shows and the streaming helps a great deal.
Here's to another good year i hope, Cheers Tek
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Red: My excuse is flyig from Finland to USA... It's not those low budget routes so it'll be a LOT $$$ and I dont' have it.
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I'll see you there, red. And I'll be prepared
"just in case" the Peg2 happens to be selling
early...:)
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So any proves yet?
I honestly would like to know the truth after all that happened. Thanks to Wayne if he is still investigating that. Would you transparently share the information you get with us, wether it favours one side OR the other?
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So is McEwen going to be there? no doubt giving the people (believers) one of those long ass speeches what leads to nothing like always.
Someone ask him proper direct questions (yes proper questions, non of that suck up to Fleecy Q&L)
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If Linux running on the AmigaOne doesn't float your boat, what's wrong with going to see MOS on Pegasos? You may actually like it! :-?
MOS does nothing for me, sorry.
ALthough I just thought of a great reason to go - I could go with a fist-full of custom tee-shirts and when Q&A time came up wave them at McEwen and ask him how friggin' hard it can be to get teeshirts printed up if I had these that were just done the day before.
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Just posted the story. Amiga Inc's being foreclosed. Check the main page.
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well redrumloa
Ill take a fully working OS anyday
MorphOS looks pretty on the surface but not much of anything under the hood.
No matter what you guy's say I played with one the other day. Might be a nice system if ever finished. PS how bout making Peg one run first before waiting for II.
PS I am typing this message out on my NEW AmigaONE XEG4
My AoneSE is running SUSE, The New AoneXE is running Debian great set of instructions and install disk was up and running in under a hour from start to finish
I am gonna get me the full set. AoneSE,AoneXE,AoneDual........
If You Peg boy's weren't Such@$#%. I would be buying them too.
No matter how much #### you talk About Amiga INC and what crooks they are they stand head and shoulders above the scum formerly known as Visicorp/Genesi/Thendic,Ect al.....
Tell me how many people here are running on thier new Peg boards.
How many were up and online within an hour of unwraping thier new boards.
like I expect an honest answer from you boy's LOL!!
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Wayne wrote:
Just posted the story. Amiga Inc's being foreclosed. Check the main page.
Is that the sole operational function of that company - to sell off foreclosed merchandise?
Or is there a document somewhere else that outlines a foreclosure?
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BTW you do know that if AI goes belly up Hyperion gets the rights to AOS
so nothing changes except that I lose the 50 dollars on my Coupon.
which is far less than the $5500 I lost when Commodore went bellyup.
or the $1495 I lost when P5 went down the crapper.
So stop your slavering we just miss out on bills rantings.
Of course knowing our luck we just get more of the same from the Ex-president of AI.
Hmm I wonder if Bill could sell me AI?
Might be worth a half million or so as a Tax write off. Of course If I brought it I would be responsible for about 3000 Tshirts or I would be facing an angry mob of club amiga members ;)
Of course I could have lot's of fun wiping out the lunatic Morph guys trying to sneak on to my property.
alway's a plus side to things!!!
Kurt
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No matter what you guy's say I played with one the other day. Might be a nice system if ever finished. PS how bout making Peg one run first before waiting for II.
You may have "played" with it the other day, possibly, but I OWN one so I think I can speak with at least a little authority on the subject. While definately not perfect, MorphOS works quite well. But what is perfect? It's a young OS that's getting better and better and honestly it is far superior to my prior 060/66-Prometheus/Voodoo3-Delfina-OS3.9-etc system.
If You Peg boy's weren't Such@$#%. I would be buying them too.
I'm a Peg boy and a what? Peggy/MOS and A1/os4 are products not a popularity competetion. If you are interested in the product you buy it. YEESH this isn't a cult. Well maybe AIW.NET is a cult but the rest of us are not.
How many were up and online within an hour of unwraping thier new boards.
25 minutes. Probably 15 minutes putting the motherboard and drives in the case etc, 10 minuets configuring the software. I didn't time it but I was online VERY quick, it was easier setting up than OS3.9 or even WinXP for sure.
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@Kurt
I can't figure out if you are trying to be humorous or if you have serious Amiga Inc hero-worship syndrome?
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well Redrumloa
It just bothers me all I get and see from the MorphOS crowd are attacks
,spin, and inuendo. I like hardware and software. I am a computer nut and have been since my father showed me the big tape eating machine at his office when I was a kid.
No morph guy ever posts positive comments about what a PEG board can do, they only attack AI.
AI doesn't do much of anything. They don't make the boards or the OS.
Also I really don't like BB's scorched earth tactics. He Really could of done allot to help himself in the last year instead he drove more people away from the Amiga/Morph scene. In his mad rush to try to grab all the marbles.
Also I am thinking about starting a new venture and I was half serious about buying AI.
but it's really not worth all the trouble.
I don't worship anyone or anything. I also know what most people in bussiness or politics tell you are pure bull. So I listen to myself and most times I call it right even when 90% of the people don't see it at first. I never expected to get my $100 and $50 discounts from AI but I thought what the hell.
If it keeps things interesting for a few month's then it's worth it.
got to go now I am gonna be late to the local Amiga club meeting were there will be a tricked out A1200T and a Amigaone and a Pegasos machine there
Kurt
ps your comment was the first and only posistive comment I have seen about a PEGASOS.
But considering that BB now claimes that it is fatally flawed.......
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can't go this year, darn it, because a wedding and family reunion are the exact same weekend, doh! And it will suck to miss Wayne at this one, haven't seen him at the last couple, and to meet/greet other people (guess Jeff Schindler won't be around to buy beer for the evening but oh well, people always find some bathtub in someone's room to put it in anyway :)
Last year's show was pretty quiet, the highlights were of course Bill B's webcam blimp, the NewTek booth running the (PC-based) Toaster/Aura - yes, it's not on an Amiga but I'd not be surprised if Tim J. & Co. have found ways to avoid winblows on those setups - that thing runs WAY too fast to be putting up with 'windows.dll' slowing things down. I watched the NewTek guys create a picture in Aura, insert a video clip with a woman talking, an animated revolving Lightwave logo and then merge the whole thing in about 5-10 minutes, all told. If Steve Jobs or Adobe saw that, they'd give up their pretensions to video editing, there and then, I'm not exaggerating one iota.
I've seen MOS in action, because Bolton Peck (of recent ANN posting fame) has brought it to our user meetings a couple of times up here in Seattle - it looks nice but it is still obviously a work in progress, many hardware pieces aren't supported yet and some basic apps don't work yet. But in time, it looks to be pretty neat! I'm still holding out for OS4 or if they ever get Umilator on the market (even more unlikely, that was pretty sad).
Have fun, everyone, and while you're there, send a card to John Zaccarias (author of AEMail, original creator and organizer of the AmiWest show back in 1997-8-9-00), who has unfortunately had to go back to the hospital for more treatment (some of you may remember his unfortunate stroke at Amiga2001 in St. Louis a couple years ago). Send him your best, he'd love to hear from you/the show. The SACC club can get you in touch with him if you'd like to send him a card (from the show or otherwise).
Does anyone know if Carl S, Dale Luck, Haynie or anyone else are showing up? I think someone showed up last year but can't completely remember at this point.. . Carl wasn't there as in years past, unfortunately, nor was REBOL - does anyone know how that company is doing? Hopefully OK. .. .
kevin orme
amiga university
www.amigau.com
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Thanks amigau for getting the thread back on topic. You should probably have said Tekmage's blimp, since we've got a couple of Bill B.'s in the community ;-)
I'll be at amiwest again this year, though in a more official capacity. Unless forced, I'm going to skip the banquette this year as well. However, not because of Wayne's reasons, but because I remember the food from last time. The bar inside the hotel has much better food ;-)
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I am thinking about going to AmiWest and buying a booth but I am not sure if that show is the right place to sell Video Toaster Amiga software. It might be a good place to sell Amiga Demo DVD Spark of the Scene though. If I do go I will bring my new employee Hottie with me.
www.livejournal.com/users/ehottie
Best regards
Bill Panagouleas
Founder/CEO
DiscreetFX
www.discreetfx.com