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Title: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: motorollin on August 30, 2006, 07:05:56 PM
I've just got my PegII and am setting it all up. I'm trying to get it to boot from the MorphOS 1.4.5 CD and not having much luck. When I type in "boot /pci/ide/cdrom boot.img" it hangs on a message saying "Quark/OpenFirmware".

If I type "ls /pci/ide/cdrom" then it lists the contents of the CD. I have tried another CD-ROM and another IDE cable. I don't know what else I can try :-(

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moto
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: motorollin on August 30, 2006, 07:12:44 PM
I've just found a posting saying that this can happen if the graphics card is unsupported. I'm using a Radeon 8500, which I was told is supported. I tried it with my Voodoo 3000 from my A1200, and it did the same thing.

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moto
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: Bennymee on August 30, 2006, 07:13:25 PM
Do you use the right boot.img ?

I remember that, for the first time, I used the Peg1 boot.img. ( that was on my ODW - Peg2)
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: motorollin on August 30, 2006, 07:22:07 PM
Just tried using bootpeg1.img and got the same problem.

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moto
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: Kronos on August 30, 2006, 07:27:26 PM
Sure you did (as that is for Peg1s.....).

Stupid question No.32:

Did you try to just power/reset with the CD inserted ?

Cos my Peg2 (ODW) autoboots the MOS-CDs.

Dunno why, dunno how, it's allways been that way .....

/me is of to check OF-variables.
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: Crumb on August 30, 2006, 07:29:58 PM
@motorollin
are you using 80-wire cables?

What PCI/AGP cards do you have inserted?
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: motorollin on August 30, 2006, 07:32:08 PM
@Kronos
Yes I have tried cold booting with the CD in the drive.

@Crumb
I have tried two different 80 wire cables. I have tried an AGP Radeon 8500 and a PCI Voodoo 3000.

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moto
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: Tempest on August 30, 2006, 07:33:35 PM
@motorollin
Do you have any USB devices plugged in? I just tried booting my PegII with the MOS CD and it wouldn't boot. But after unplugging my USB joypad it boots normal from CD.

~tempest
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: motorollin on August 30, 2006, 07:34:35 PM
No, I have a PS/2 keyboard and mouse connected, and the video cable in the graphics card. Nothing else is connected.

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moto
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: amigakit on August 30, 2006, 07:47:20 PM
Type at the OpenFirmware prompt:

boot cd boot.img

Ensure MorphOS CD is inserted

Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: itix on August 30, 2006, 07:48:51 PM
The best you can try is connecting serial terminal to Pegasos and look into debug output... The worst I can imagine is that Pegasos is defunct... :/

Or humm... how is your harddrive?
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: motorollin on August 30, 2006, 07:49:13 PM
Hmmm that's done the same thing :-(

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moto
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: motorollin on August 30, 2006, 07:50:29 PM
@itix
I'll have a look for a serial cable. Do I just point a terminal emulator to the COM device  of the serial port and I will start seeing kernel debug output?

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moto
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: CLS2086 on August 30, 2006, 08:00:06 PM
Yes, you'll see raw data list at 115200 bauds.
I've also a Pegasos2.
Are you sure you have well the MorphOS 1.4.5  (while booting you can see its label MORPHOS) ?
Do you have 1 or 2 Ram ? Use 1.
Try to boot with the Voodoo on the 1st PCI slot and nothing else on the other slots. Don't plug anything on the USB port !!!
Put your HDD alone on the primary IDE channel as master or slave (some brands don't like to be use in Master mode or with a CDROM)..


But :
Are you sure your HDD is really empty ?
Maybe you should try to get a Peg2 Debian and use its installer to clean the content.  :rtfm:
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: Kronos on August 30, 2006, 08:02:57 PM
My guess is your CD is FUBARed, try burning a new one .....

(but have a look at serial-out before)
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: CLS2086 on August 30, 2006, 08:03:02 PM
Try also to explore your CDROM and disk by using the ls command :

ls /pci/ide/cdrom
or ls cd

ls /pci/ide/disk0@1

clean your eeprom too

the right boot.img for peg2 is boot.img , the other one is for Peg1.
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: itix on August 30, 2006, 08:05:24 PM
You must use right settings, 11500 8n1 (IIRC), other than that it doesnt need special care.
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: motorollin on August 30, 2006, 08:09:59 PM
@CLS2086
When it tries to boot it says 'ISO-9660 filesystem: System-ID "MorphOS"'. Is that 1.4.5???
I have 1 stick of 512MB PC2100 DDR. I have tried it in both slots.
I have tried the Voodoo on the first PCI slot with nothing on any other slots.
Nothing is connected to the USB ports.
I have tried the CD-ROM and HDD set to master on their own channels.
There probably is something on the drive. I was planning to format it once I had booted MOS. Does it matter if there's something on there?

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moto
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: motorollin on August 30, 2006, 08:12:02 PM
If I ls /pci/ide/cdrom I can see files on the disc. Where can I download an ISO to burn a new disc? And how do I reset the EPROM?

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moto
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: itix on August 30, 2006, 08:12:32 PM
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clean your eeprom too


Geez.
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: itix on August 30, 2006, 08:25:53 PM
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When it tries to boot it says 'ISO-9660 filesystem: System-ID "MorphOS"'. Is that 1.4.5???


It just is MorphOS 'some version'.

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I have 1 stick of 512MB PC2100 DDR. I have tried it in both slots.


Even if memory was broken it should randomly get past Quark prompt (boot image could be compared to Kickstart ROM on Amiga). Maybe if boot image was not loaded correctly and it crashes (which would indicate broken CD) but I find it extremely unlikely.

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I have tried the Voodoo on the first PCI slot with nothing on any other slots.


Probably not related to gfx card. Gfx card drivers are loaded later.

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There probably is something on the drive. I was planning to format it once I had booted MOS. Does it matter if there's something on there?


Not really. Well, in some cases it does but you should get past Quark prompt then.. (at least a little).
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: motorollin on August 30, 2006, 08:29:55 PM
So what do you think? Broken CD? Is there somewhere I can download an ISO image to burn to CD?

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moto
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: CLS2086 on August 30, 2006, 09:28:29 PM
Hi,
yes for sure on a private FTP. But first you have to register for free.
Information on morphzone.org or directly on their dedicated IRC channel.
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: motorollin on August 30, 2006, 09:30:31 PM
I have registered, but they are not processing registrations until 18th Sept :roll:

I have "obtained" a logon for the download area and got the ISO. I'm just burning it now and will try again.

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moto
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: motorollin on August 30, 2006, 09:51:08 PM
Ok I've tried a new MOS CD, but have got the same problem. I'm going to get a serial cable tomorrow and see if there is any useful debug output.

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moto
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: motorollin on August 31, 2006, 06:19:38 AM
Well I got up early this morning and tried an NEC CDRW/DVD combo drive, and it works! I'm now in the process of installing MOS :-D Thanks for all your help everyone.

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moto
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: CLS2086 on August 31, 2006, 09:18:51 AM
Hi,
sorry that I forgot to tell you about that, some new CD/DVD drives are not 100% compatible with AMIGA and Pegasos...
For exemple I can't use a Samsung CDRW 52-32-52x on my A1200 even with IDEFix Express...
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: itix on August 31, 2006, 09:31:49 AM
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Well I got up early this morning and tried an NEC CDRW/DVD combo drive, and it works! I'm now in the process of installing MOS Thanks for all your help everyone.


Phew. At least it was not fault on mobo :-) Did you use 80wire cables?
Title: Re: Getting PegII to boot from CD
Post by: motorollin on August 31, 2006, 10:15:27 AM
@CLS2086
Actually, the same drive worked fine on my A1200 before I changed it for a SCSI one. Weird huh!

@itix
Yes I'm very relieved the motherboard is ok. I am using 80 way cables. In fact it is the same cable I used with the other drive.

Do you think the MOS/Genesi devs would want to know about this?

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moto