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Title: Smallest TCP/IP stack?
Post by: motorollin on August 21, 2006, 05:32:58 PM
Hi guys

Does anyone know which Amiga TCP/IP stack takes up the lease room once installed? I'm thinking of making a network bootdisk which would start the TCP/IP stack, use smbfs to mount a network volume, and then boot from the network.

Cheers!

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moto
Title: Re: Smallest TCP/IP stack?
Post by: ltstanfo on August 21, 2006, 05:57:12 PM
Moto,

My guess for smallest TCP stack would be the old "TermiteTCP" stack which was installed via one floppy (IIRC).  There were several update patches for it however and you would need them to remain reasonable current.

Regards,
Ltstanfo
Title: Re: Smallest TCP/IP stack?
Post by: motorollin on August 21, 2006, 08:22:20 PM
Thanks. I just had a look at Termite, but it only seems to work with serial.device. It wouldn't work with fastethernet.device. I tried installing the updates but it wouldn't let me install the patch without entering a serial number.

If AmiTCP won't fit on a floppy, I think I will have to make a boot CD with OS3.9 on it and run Genesis.

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moto
Title: Re: Smallest TCP/IP stack?
Post by: Flashlab on August 21, 2006, 08:31:32 PM
And have a boot floppy to boot the cd? Seems a bit awkward to me.

What is the idea behind this endaevour? You don't want to use a harddisk?
Title: Re: Smallest TCP/IP stack?
Post by: motorollin on August 21, 2006, 08:33:59 PM
Yes I agree a boot floppy mounting a CD mounting a network drive is clumsy. I need a way to back up my whole system. I used to back up on to a CDRW which then had a boot floppy. It worked really well, and gave me a complete bootable backup of my whole system. Now the contents of my hard drive is too much to fit on a CD, so I need something larger. The best way I can think of doing this is to mount a network drive to my MacBook and use it as a backup "drive".

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moto
Title: Re: Smallest TCP/IP stack?
Post by: fx on August 21, 2006, 09:02:34 PM
I have made a bootdisk with AmiTCP 4.3 and smbfs, it all fits on a DD-floppy and can then start the rest of the system via the samba share.
Title: Re: Smallest TCP/IP stack?
Post by: golem on August 21, 2006, 09:07:22 PM
Hi moto

I have one of my 1200s mounting a volume with ProNET through a parallel cable to my other 1200. They both use the same Jaz disk as DH0: at the same time. This sounds pretty similar to what you are aiming for. ProNet is small enough to fit on a floppy if it is a little slow but the cable was easy enough to make and it beats having two hard drives of the same files. Just wish I had one of those 3.9 ROMs you have :-)
Title: Re: Smallest TCP/IP stack?
Post by: Thomas on August 21, 2006, 09:07:30 PM

You could fit an entire OS3.9 installation on a ZIP disk or an USB memory stick.

If you've got a CSPPC or BPPC you can boot from CD without a floppy. Just enable it in the firmware menu.

Bye,
Thomas


Title: Re: Smallest TCP/IP stack?
Post by: motorollin on August 21, 2006, 09:29:41 PM
@golem
Yes the idea is similar, except I need a whole TCP/IP stack, Mediator drivers, Fast Ethernet drivers and smbfs :-o

@Thomas
I don't have a Zip drive or USB support. Otherwise I would put an OS3.9 installation on a Zip disk or USB drive and boot from that. It's a shame there's not a BlizKick module to boot from CD. I could incorporate that in to my 3.9 ROM and cold boot from CD.

@fx
Check your PM :-)

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moto
Title: Re: Smallest TCP/IP stack?
Post by: rare_j on August 22, 2006, 01:24:56 AM
Have you tried compressing some of the data before it gets backed up to CDRW... you could write a short backup script to copy over your system directories, and add your data directories as archives.
The backup process would take longer but you may find you can fit everything on the CD with space to spare.