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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: stopthegop on August 16, 2006, 02:29:41 PM
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I have a question regarding the Allegro CDFS software. The registered version comes on disk with drivers for the 4-way IDE splitter for the A1200. I want to use JUST the
Allegro CD File system, not the 4-way splitter drivers. Its for an A4000t and I want AllegroCDFS because it supports DVD format. As far as I know, this is the only Amiga FS that does? Anyway, the problem is that these two programs (allegro and the hardware driver) seem to be "married" to each other in that the serial number for Allegro is embedded in the code of the hardware driver.
Trying to use just AllegroCDFS in the A4k by copying it to "L" and referring to it from CD2 (DVD actually):
DEVICE=Z3SCSI.device
UNIT=4
FILESYSTEM=WORKBENCH:L/ALLEGROCDFS
I get an error on "can't find the Hardware ID."
So here's my question: Is there any way to provide this "Hardware ID" that Allegro needs to function via a tooltype in its icon? Or by some other
method? The ID, btw, I think is printed on a sticker on the 4-way splitter. I just don't know what tooltype, if any, I can use to unlock Allegro? Anyone have any ideas? Thanks
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Most DVDs can be read with any Amiga CD file system. I didn't see any difference between AllegroCDFS and CacheCDFS (as it comes with OS3.9). Both can read the same DVDs and both fail on the same DVDs. CacheCDFS is more stable, AllegroCDFS crashes every now and then.
I get an error on "can't find the Hardware ID."
AllegroCDFS needs Elbox hardware (FastATA/PowerFlyer) as dongle. You cannot use it stand alone. It is not restricted to Elbox hardware, you can use it with any IDE or SCSI controller, but you need one piece of Elbox hardware in your computer or it will not run at all.
Bye,
Thomas
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Thanks. I have a Mediator. Does that count?
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I don't think so. But the 4xEIDE'99 should count. According to the homepage it comes with a registered version of AllegroCDFS. As I understand this, AllegroCDFS should work with the 4xEIDE'99 interface. Perhaps you should ask Elbox what you have to do to make this work.
Bye,
Thomas
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IDEFIX'97 works well too with DVD. I played some on my 1200PPC...
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Really? That would be great but registering IDEFix is harder than finding a virgin in Las Vegas.
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@stopthegop:
http://www.vesalia.de/e_idemax97.htm
Bye,
Thomas
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Did anyone get to the bottom of this?
I've seen that someone else is having this "Hardware ID" problem with Allegro CDFS.
As Thomas has already said, it is supposed to work with the IDE splitter which probably cannot be a dongle.
Does a 4000T have an IDE interface? Could it be that it only works if you have an IDE interface?
Can anyone translate Czech?
http://pandora.idnes.cz/part/2005/7/2162
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I was never able to make this work, at least not with the OEM version of the software that shipped with the 4-way splitter. Which sucks. I wish it was possible to buy the filesystem by itself. I would even be willing to
pay for a second copy of it just so I could use it in my A4000!
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stopthegop:
Registration for IdeFix '97 was given free by Power Computing some years ago. I don't know if the page can be found anymore.. but I have serial code here saved on my HD. I guess I could paste it here or has the situation changed? I'd assume it's free, because it was publically available back then :)
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As mentioned, CacheCDFS comes with OS3.5 and OS3.9. No reason to mess with IDEFix at all if you have this OS.
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alexh wrote:
Does a 4000T have an IDE interface? Could it be that it only works if you have an IDE interface?
Yup, the A4000T has both IDE and SCSI interfaces.
The 'OEM' Allegro will only work if finds one of Elbox's adapters on the IDE interface (IIRC, it rolls an ID code out of the PLD on the 4xEIDE), although I don't think it checks to see if the drive you want to use is connected to that interface.
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I wonder what bytes you could change in the EXE to remove this check :-D
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I wouldn't dare that. Remember what malicious code was found in other Elbox drivers and what could happen if you patch them.
On the other hand it's easily possible to patch expansion.library in order to fake the existance of Elbox hardware. I successfully ran AllegroCDFS on WinUAE this way.
But it's not worth. As I mentioned above, AllegroCDFS cannot read a single DVD more than CacheCDFS. You can as well use CacheCDFS which comes free with OS 3.5 and 3.9.
Bye,
Thomas
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allegroCDFS is included in the FastATA MK-III (A3000/A4000) selled by AmigaKit
give a look to the site.
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Someone bought the OEM version separately and didnt know it needed Elbox hardware.
If details about that patch were available it would be useful to the guy who spent his money already.
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will try to translate
Ahoj konfero.
> Mam problem s mediatorem,respektive si myslim,ze mi nejde
> SB128/Ether-carta proto,ze nemam spravny ovladace.
Hi, i have prob. with mediator, i think my sound card isnt working, coz i dont have corrrect driver/s
K Mediatoru bys mel mit disketu kde jsou zakladni ovladace ("Mediator system files"), je tam vsechno potrebny k rozbehani grafickejch karet Voodoo, Virge a ethernetu (samozrejme ta karta musi byt jedna z podporovanych). Pokud potrebujes ovladace pro zvukovky a TV karty tak
ty jsou az na Mediator Multimedia CD (to ovsem nestaci "obslehnout" ale to by sis musel normalne koupit protoze.. viz nize). MMCD navic nahradi i vetsinu puvodnich MSF jinyma, vysima verzema.
reply:
Wižth mediator you got diskette with drivers (med system files) - everything for voodoo gfx, ethernet. If you want to use soundcard or tv card, you will need MMCD , and original, not a copy!
> Sehnal sem
> ovladace od jednoho dobrodince,ale nejdou pouzit.Napr Mixer napise
> :Hardware ID code missing.Rekl bych,ze je to tim,ze nemam opravu na
> mediatoru-mam ten s tou chybou v prideleni pameti.
I once got a copy fromy friend and it idnt work, it complains bout ¨Hardware ID code missing. i thought i have old mediator without patched adress space.
Nejde o "chybu", ta "chyba" v podstate vubec nicemu nevadi (maximalne
to muze bezet nepatrne pomalejc), pokud mas tuhle kralikarskou revizi
tak hlavne musis mit nastavenej jumper na Mediatoru na 4MB. Pak by
vsechno melo normalne fungovat.
This is not an error, unpatched mediator works too, probably only little slower and you need to set jumper to 4MB.
Ovladace od "dobrodince" by ti
nemusely fungovat ani na novejsi verzi, dokonce ani ne na zupgradovany
verzi s chipama z jiny kopie MMCD. Proste ty ovladace z urcityho CD
jsou vazany primo na ty chipy co byly k tomu CD, na jinym Medatoru
jsou podle me nefunkcni.
Drivers from friend will not work, they are binded with mach chips, and i thing it will not work with other mmcd
(chain:which isnt true )
To je stejny jako treba s Allegro CDFS, pokud
ho nemas extra koupeny nebo nemas nejakou cracklou verzi tak funguje
jenom s urcitym konkretnim kusem radice ke kterymu to bylo prilozeny
(pripadne pro kterej byl zaslan update) a na zadnym jinym.
it si probably same as with allegro cdfs - if you dont bought it or dont have cracked version, it works only with one particular ide controller which was bought with it (or which was updated) and nothing else.
> Myslim,ze by to
> vyresilo MMCD s tema obvodama co se menily.Prodavaji se este
> vubec?Nebo je to soucast MMCD od Elboxu? Napiste Vase poznatky ,budu
> rad za kazdou pomoc. Mejtese dobre a dik.
do you think MMCD will solve this problem? its still possible to buy it? Thanks for all help and replys
MMCD se myslim prodava, podivej se na stranky Elboxu. Chipy by
zrovnatak mely byt soucasti toho CD. Nejsem si ovsem jistej jestli
jich neni nekolik ruznjech (pro kazdyho Mediatora (M PCI 1200, M PCI
ZIV, M PCI 4000 atd.) jiny), v tom pripade si dej bacha at si
objednas to spravny ;)
MMCD is still in shops, look at elbox pages, chips are included (chain: thats not true, not at all!!!)
But i dont know how many versions exists, and you will need exactly right chips
Na "odber" updatu pro MSF se muzes u Elboxu zaregistrovat hned i bez
MMCD podle nasledujicich instrukci (z manualu k MSF):
If you want to get updates from elbox you need to subscribe.... and howto follows.
sorry guys, i translated it as good as i can,
but i think it will not help you :cry:
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The only thing allegro offers over cachecdfs udf support whichprobably wont be encountered unless trying to use dvd film or the dvd contains a file bigger then 2 gig. I tried allegro very briefly years ago (cam with 4xEide) but it would often crash the system upon disk insertion, so have stuck with the tried and tested cachecdfs ever since ;)
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But it's not worth. As I mentioned above, AllegroCDFS cannot read a single DVD more than CacheCDFS. You can as well use CacheCDFS which comes free with OS 3.5 and 3.9.
The main advantage of Allegro is speed. It was marketed as the fastest Amiga CDFS. On the other hand, CacheCDFS is one of the slower. (from some brief test that i did) Much slower than AmiCDFS in accessing directories.
I see that no one mentioned this CDFS. It is free and you can get it from Aminet.
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AmigaMance wrote:
The main advantage of Allegro is speed. It was marketed as the fastest Amiga CDFS. On the other hand, CacheCDFS is one of the slower. (from some brief test that i did) Much slower than AmiCDFS in accessing directories.
I see that no one mentioned this CDFS. It is free and you can get it from Aminet.
Can you read DVD with AmiCDFS?
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yea i mean, that's my question!? I'm getting conflicting responses about dvds. You can read them true whether 4000/1200! my question is can you view them as in watch a dvd! if so how, what setup, and which systems, so i can put it to rest! :evil:
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@adolescent
Can you read DVD with AmiCDFS?
Yes.
@zyphoid
I don't see many conflicting comments in the thread you opened about this. I'm talking about accessing DVD-ROMs not playing DVD movies.