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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: elinscheid on August 07, 2006, 06:57:29 PM
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I have an old Commodore monitor model 2002. Will that be sufficient for my Amiga 1200 or will I need to get a different monitor? I don't know if it would support all the different resolutions that this newer Amiga can output. The last time I used the monitor was with my old Amiga 500 and that was about eight years ago.
Thanks
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It should work fine. As long as you have the right connection in the back of the 1200. I use mine all the time if my 4000 starts acting funny so i can see the colored screen since they wont show up with a picasso card. They are great video monitor. I use mine hooked up to my VCR and my DVD player. Once it is hooked up you do have only a certain amount of resolution you can use. :-D :-D
Sheers
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Well I finally received the power supply for my A1200. I connected it to my Commodore 2002 monitor and there was no picture. I disconnected the monitor cable and used a composite cable instead and the picture worked. I'm not sure if there was a problem with the cable or the monitor. So next I am going to purchase a VGA adapter and use one of my older multi-sync monitors instead.
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I can assure you the Commodore 2002 does work with the Amiga! You need a Analog RGB cable for it. I have the same monitor and it works great.
For Multisync you need to make sure it goes down to 15KHz or you won't be able to use it fully (only in WB with scan soubled modes)
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Maybe the cable is bad then. If I can't get my 2002 to work with my A1200 then I will simply use that monitor with my C64 instead :-P
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Could be the cable. Did it come with the monitor? You could get a new one from Centsible, thats where I got mine, for like ~$7.
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Thanks for the help. One more question. I see on the back of the 2002 there is a switch that says RGB Mode. Which position should the switch be in? I tried all three positions.
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Should be in Analog.
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So does 15KHz allow for the greatest compatibility? I have seen some RGB to VGA adapters that mention they work with 35KHz.
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Stupid question, but my 2002 has a switch in the front flip-down panel which you also need to set to use the RGB input. I'm assuming you've got that set properly too?
:-D
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Crisdog
Yes, you have to set the front switch. Also, I can tell you being an Amiga dealer for 14 years that a 2002 monitor will work with any and ALL amigas..
magnetic
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I didn't know about the switch under that flip down panel....if that's all I need to do then I am going to kick myself!!! I won't have a chance to find out until I get home tonight. Thanks again for all the responses.
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Well if you didn't know about it then that is what it is, as to switch from Composite to RGB video you have to move the switch in the front...
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Ok! So, I flipped the magic switch and voila, it works. I did notice though, that any interlaced resolution I chose has an absolutely horrible re-fresh rate that hurts my eyes. All the non-Interlaced resolutions are perfectly fine, except that they are not the resolution sizes that I want to use.
Shouldn't this monitor handle the different resolutions? Perhaps I simply need to run some sort of program to make things right?
My Amiga is supposed to be a NTSC version. The monitor was purchased in the US.
The different options I seem to have are:
640X400 Interlaced
640X200
320X400 Interlaced
320X200
1280X400 Interlaced
1280X200
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Not sure if you meant the flicker or actual refresh rate. NTSC is 60Hz, PAL is 50. You cannot adjust that. The Commodore 2002 monitor will handle NTSC and PAL just fine (though it will not auto adjust the screen for it in PAL like the older boxy 1084 series). Regarding the flicker you see, that is normal! You cannot fix it and the only thing you can do in WB is use different colors to minimize it. The Amiga handled hi res using interlace. 400 lines or more verticle. So any low res modes (200 or 256 lines) are normal.
The only way to get rid of it is to purchase a VGA Flicker fixer and use a PC monitor! The FF costs like $100. lol Just be nostalgic and use the C=2002 the way it was meant to be! ;)
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Does being nostalgic mean suffering from optical induced seizures? :crazy: Sorry, I'm being whiney. So what colors should I use to minimalize the effect?
The good news is that the games I've tried look brilliant.
Now it's time to install WHDLoad and hunt down some more Amiga games.
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Amiga computers were always based on the fact that they would use a low refresh frequency of 15khz to be compatible with televisions. The 2002 monitor only supports this mode, thus all the screen flicker at higher resolutions as it 'interlaces' the screen to get double the resolution. The A1200 can actually use other video modes of 30khz and up (standard VGA), but a compatible monitor would also need to be required. There are very few monitors on the market that will support both the 15 and 30khz rates that an A1200 can produce; the older Amiga RGB monitors only sync'd at 15khz while PC monitors comming out nowdays support 30khz and above. Commodore made some 1950 and 1960 monitors to support both frequency ranges, but they are a little hard to come by these days. There's always the option of installing a 'scandoubler' which will double the 15khz video signal to 30khz for compatability on normal PC monitors.
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...but if you ever will considering buying a scandoubler/flickerfixer for the A1200, just keep in mind that (as far as I know) there are no 24-bit ones out there, which means that everything that runs in AGA will look pretty horrible.