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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: keropi on July 31, 2006, 03:53:13 PM
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I just installed my csppc on a 4000.... it powers on and the screen just stays black... I put a 030 card on, it works fine... also tried with pressed 060 ...
is the cs-ppc dead? :boohoo: :boohoo:
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set the jumpers on the mobo (just under the CSPPC) to EXT clock.
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As Framiga suggested, check the jumpers on the A4000 mobo. They need to be in the EXT position.
Also don't forget about the IDE chain 30 second delay.
CSPPC also must have some ram installed on in in order to boot. Matching pairs in banks 0 & 2, and 1 & 3 I believe.
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jumpers where both to INT, made them to EXT
there is an IDE HD, and on the csppc matching 32MBx4 Simms... still nothing, no ESC or S.... still no-go... :(
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Tried the CSPPC on another fast cpu slot equipped amiga?
whatever you do, --DO NOT-- press the 060 NOR the ppc.
Never ever. Jamais. Nunca. Nesuno.
Most times the CSPPC and BPPC can be resurrected. Its only matter of touching her where gets excited.
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68k libs in Libs:?
http://phase5.a1k.org/files/040_060Libs.lha
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The HD that is on, was the same from my 060 BPPC.
also tried to have the os3.9 emergency bootdisk inside the floppy , it does not even try to read the fdd...
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Could be bad memory. Try removing and/or reseating a pair of the SIMS and see if you can get the symptoms to change. Can you get into the preboot menu by holding both mousebuttons on bootup?
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the BPPC doesn't needs HD based 68K libs (they are in the firmware) while the CSPPC does.
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but how can I install the libs??? I cannot boot, cannot enter Early startup menu, cannot enter csppc menus either....
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keropi wrote:
but how can I install the libs??? I cannot boot, cannot enter Early startup menu, cannot enter csppc menus either....
Use the 030 card to install the libs.
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Any IDE unit on the mobbo ide chain will do.
In example, connect an IDE cdrom, as master, your df0, and the csppc. POwer it on and a few seconds later, you have to see the 3.1 rom screen ( if there is not any hardware fault at all )
Dont forget to put both CLK jumpers on EXT position
Anyway, the best way to be sure is to test the CSPPC on another known working amiga hardware.
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Keropi is right. If he's only getting a black screen and no boot, the problem is not the 060 libs. If he was able to boot, and then got a GURU, then that would be an 060 library problem.
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What happens to the power light when you turn it on?
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moto
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the green led just stays on, never blinks...
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What happens with the keyboard light? Does it come on? If it does, press the caps key repeatedly and count how many times the CAPS light goes on and off. If it does indefinately, you have a working 68K CPU. If it stops after ~10 times, you do not have a working 68k.
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@ Keropi
Are you sure the card is sitting parallel to the mobo? What I mean is, you have the right spacers and the card is seated correctly?
I had that same symptom from using wrong spacers with the Cyberstorm PPC. When I upgraded from MKII 060 I didn't change the spacers and then when I installed the Cyberstorm PPC it didn't sit right (very difficult to detect, see my pics in the album).
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keropi wrote:
I just installed my csppc on a 4000.... it powers on and the screen just stays black... I put a 030 card on, it works fine... also tried with pressed 060 ...
is the cs-ppc dead? :boohoo: :boohoo:
Keropi -- is the PPC card a Phase5 card or a DCE card? The newer DCE ones have had problems. I literally had FOUR of 'em blow on me -- three PPC, one Cyberstorm MKIII 060. Many other users reported similar problems with DCE-made PPC units.
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I have the same problems with a blizzard PPC@240/040@25. No boot, only a black screen, no access to the floppy, nor boot from HD.The HD led is permanet light on and the power led is on but with less light that normally.i try it without memory (could be that the problem?).I try it with a "naked" a1200 and on a tower 1200 with HD, cdrom, pixel64 gfx card and nothing.It´s also dead my blizzardPPC?? it´s a phase5 card
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tried a new os3.9 installation with the 030 card. installed also the libs from the p5 unofficial support
site.
removed the whole a4000 mobo to see better the mobo-csppc allignment. all work OK with the 030.
removed 030
insert ppc, look, it locks fine to the slot.
power on
nothing...
after ~10 capslock on/off the capslock stays OFF...
also tried WITHOUT csppc spacers, the same...
according to patrik that indicates a faulty 68k side? so it is dead?
should I return it to the seller?
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Sounds like a bad 68k socket (or 68k CPU) to me. I'd return it to the seller if I were you.
If you can't, the next step is Amiga Centre in France. Since you don't really know if the PPC side is healthy, it would be kind of sad to figure out that the PPC side is not working after the 68k side becomes operational.
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keropi wrote:
after ~10 capslock on/off the capslock stays OFF...
also tried WITHOUT csppc spacers, the same...
according to patrik that indicates a faulty 68k side? so it is dead?
should I return it to the seller?
Well it inidcates the 68K aint working, for one reason or another. It could just be not seated well in the MB CPU slot. More than likely though it's the 060 in the SOCKET that's the problem. Reseating the 060 may fix it... at least temporarily.. Common problem..
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actually redrumloa is to be cretited for the caps lock check... I am too confussed over this disaster...
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You have no doubt bined the cppc by now or sorted it but I had the same issue on my A4000T 040 card was fine but soon as I put in the PPC 060 by DCE nothing no hardware boot up. I was told it was the ide drive it will not work with them. I removed the ide drive & one working amiga using scsi uw insetad.