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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga community support ideas => Topic started by: Blinx123 on July 28, 2006, 01:01:05 PM
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Hi guys,
if there were a new AMIGA out there and it would be a typical AMIGA 1200 design how would you name this AMIGA? AMIGA 1500,1400,PUMA? Or maybe another name?
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A clone.
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But why a clone. Something much more powerful than the original one isn´t really a clone.
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Well a clone because it wouldn't be a real Amiga maybe? Commodore and/or Amiga don't make hardware anymore...
Not to sound rude but what is the point of this topic really?
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I can´t say it now, maybe tommorow. But think about a new AMIGA featuring hmm, let us say maybe a Motorola 6860 with more than 60Mhz and a brand new custom chipset, maybe some new expansion slots/ports,too? What would you name this.
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There is no point making faster Amiga (in terms of faster blitter or Paula with 16bit sound) because no software would take advantage of it. Amiga is frozen to 1994 specs.
Well, in my opinion :-)
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But someone could programm/built software for it. Thats not the problem I think.
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beer driven fantasy conversation is it ?
marvellous !
ok, I'll bite: I have pondered this very question myself,
sitting on the swing seat in the evening twilight with a can of Olde English in me belly, and another in the hand, watching the sun set, and the chavs chuck beer cans into me hedge (b@st@rds).
it would have had: a 68060, 24 bit colour, and 8 stereo mappable 16 bit channels off an Audio DSP. it would also have a slot for a 3d accelerator, and what not.
of course it is all moot, but theres nowt wrong with an alcohol fuelled fantasy, even if there's no alcohol involved!!
enjoy the moment.
its a bit like the age old question among single blokes:
'small and pointy, or large and roundy ones ?' when the nearest breast is as unreachable as if it were in Antarctica !!
good times!
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So it basically a 1200 with some additional stuff? Is it AGA compatible? WHDLoad friendly? If so, I'd call it
"The Answer" :)
or maybe the Amiga Riposte, only you can all the subject headers with "Riposte-rip-off! etc."
HOw about you had a chat with Mr Braben, got Frontier First Encounters converted and called it "the 1200 Elite"? :)
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Well, I thought you meant close to an A1200 so, being a classic, you could call it an A1201. I expect you could even get a license from Amiga Inc and call it an Amiga A1201.
But...
With specs like 68k60, beefed up AGA, 'extras as standard' like USB, fast IDE and graphics then depending on the form factor you could call it an A1300 or an A5000.
All IMHO of course.....
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A1300 sounds simple and good. How about A1300 "The Wolf". Wouldn´t it sound fantastic. Because an AMIGA is a lonely wolf. It´s os is more flexible but also simpler than any other os. In the hardware factor,too. Because no other todays computer would use a M6860 cpu. But you all are totaly right,it´s still fantasy. But more about the "fantasy" tomorrow. ;-)
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yes there is no point,
but I would call it a2400, duh.....
they made the 500 then the 600 then the 1200 so the next mayor leap would be the a2400, I would be tempted to call it the a2600 for hacker related reasons.
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'Hombre'
:-D
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AmiRetroClon or BornToDie 5000 :-)
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I like 'Hombre'. Of course under the assumption that it is a clone, and Amiga was full of first names, I might consider 'Dolly'.
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Amigo.
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Blinx123 wrote:
Hi guys,
if there were a new AMIGA out there and it would be a typical AMIGA 1200 design how would you name this AMIGA? AMIGA 1500,1400,PUMA? Or maybe another name?
I think I would call it "Pipe dream"
/hides
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Well, like "Playstation" is an obvious name for a gameconsole, there should be an equal obvious name for a new amiga if any company would be willing to make a new one.
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I would name it ... TIMMY
Yesterdays Future Machine!
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I think the question concerns whether numbers would be used, and "Amiga" would effectively be both the name and the brand, or whether unique names would be given to each system.
I prefer the numerical approach, personally. No, "AmigaOne" doesn't count. I mean, real numbers. That way marketeers don't waste time coming up with idiotic names that sound bad and have nothing to do with the system at all.
Although, I must admit that names that are multiples of thousands is pretty lame. That is just so 80's. ;-)
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It probably should be named after the number expected to sell.
We've had the appropriately titled Amiga One so far, may as well keep with the trend ;-)
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Yeah, I prefer numbers as well, unless we're talking about a console.
I think future Amiga models should draw inspiration from the names and the case designs of the past, which played a big part in the Amiga's appeal, and could once more. Amiga case designs are instantly recognisable and should be retained and updated.
Well, the numbers always implied the footprint, or case design, and then after that the power, or at least it appeared that way to me. Of course there were plenty of exceptions, like the A600 was originally intended to be called the A300 because it was smaller than the A500.
So, the new A1200 like machine that is being talked about, having a built in wedge keyboard, should really be considered to be A500 like, and I think new Amiga models should repeat the existing model naming convention from the beginning.
We had A2000s and I believe there are also B2000s, which I guess were for business. So the 'A' didn't really mean Amiga afterall.
If it was me I think it would be cool to call a new A500 like system either a B500 or C500. I prefer C500 because it sorta harkens back to Commodore naming, which could also be appealing for a retro comeback. And Commodore already used the letter B. Still I guess few people know that, so you could use it to imply that this is a new generation.
Further, you could have something like a Samanatha mobo in an Amiga fantasy case and call it a C500 as it is a very base system like the A500 was. Then as cases and mobos with greater power materialise we could follow up duplicating the current model numbers.
The G3 and G4 powered generation should be likened to the 68000 generation which were the most popular and the most recognisable to the public.
A wedge keyboard, become the C500 (sub 1ghz)
A pizza box case, becomes the C1000 (1-1.5ghz)
A big box case, becomes the C2000. (1.5-2ghz)
A little later when you get to the G5 powered boxes you'd consider them comparable to the 68020, 68030 and 68040.
A wedge keyboard, becoms the C1200 (1-2Ghz)
A pizza box case, becomes the C3000 (2-3Ghz)
A big box case, becomes the C4000 (3-4Ghz)
Of course, it could only work though if AmigaInc were to endorse such a thing between the manufacturers and actually do the marketing.
Hmmmm.. I seem to have thought way too much about this.
Ok. Going back to my happy place now.(http://http:\\64.33.47.100\images\a1000anim.gif)
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I always fancied the "plus" designation. Too bad neither C= nor Escom revised the A1200 into an A1200+ design with motherboard simms and an uprated processor, maybe a DSP and SCSI-2 controller, or God forbid, ethernet built in. That would've been cool.
There are a few A3000+'s out there with AA built in and SCSI.
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You guys dont know your Amiga history.
A1500 (http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=16)is already taken. It is a Commodore original machine. B2000 with two floppy drives.
A1201 is already taken. It is a memory upgrade for the A1200.
A5000 is already taken. It is an 020 upgrade for the A500.
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[color=ff0000]Amiga: The Next Generation[/color]
Make it so.
Seriously, call them all Amiga NGxxxx
Where xxxx is some arbitrary number maybe related to the CPU or whatever..
It's still an Amiga, but clearly not from the Commodore era.
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Amiga Last Generation ? :-D