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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: zombi on July 21, 2006, 02:05:55 PM

Title: Daydreaming
Post by: zombi on July 21, 2006, 02:05:55 PM
Just a dream:

Amiga07

http://geocities.com/ascioglu/
Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: zombi on July 25, 2006, 11:16:28 AM
Hey. Why there is no comment?

I've prepared single page website about a fantasy amiga model. Somebody should have looked. So where is the comments?  
Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: Galaxyc on July 25, 2006, 11:51:06 AM
Well nice design i quess , for a dream ...  Only i wish it would be real ...  :-(
Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: monty on July 25, 2006, 12:32:59 PM
Let's hope it will remain in your dreams.  :lol:
Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: Plus4 on July 25, 2006, 12:38:37 PM
Where do I put in my credit card details?
 :-D
Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: zombi on July 25, 2006, 04:49:38 PM
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monty wrote:
Let's hope it will remain in your dreams.  :lol:


Why? I think it's a good idea. Because competition in game consol market is not as hard as personel computer market. At least there are different machines in the market.

And building a game console was the dream of Jay Miner. Lorianne project was purposed to this. But the machine is renamed as Amiga and converted to "personal computer with excellent games" by dear Commodore.
Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: Piru on July 25, 2006, 05:13:59 PM
@zombi
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Because competition in game consol market is not as hard as personel computer market.

You must be kidding.

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At least there are different machines in the market.

That makes it less competitive? How?
Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: pierre on July 25, 2006, 06:02:25 PM
hehehe, the man is sleeping let him dream.
Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: monty on July 25, 2006, 07:09:10 PM
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And building a game console was the dream of Jay Miner. Lorianne project was purposed to this. But the machine is renamed as Amiga and converted to "personal computer with excellent games" by dear Commodore.


NOT True!
Jay Miner wanted to build a full-fledged computer, thats why he searched for a big company with money to do that (then Commodore appeared).




Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: nasty on July 25, 2006, 07:42:15 PM
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Because competition in game consol market is not as hard as personel computer market.


Didnt commodore already try that with the cd32 and we all know how that ended!
Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: jj on July 25, 2006, 08:28:24 PM
we must not forget that the CD32 was the worlds first true 32bit console.  But commodore were too far in trhe crapola at this stage to market it properly.  Could have been a monster
Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: seer on July 25, 2006, 09:57:33 PM
we must not forget that the CD32 was the worlds first true 32bit console.

Perhaps, but the other 32 bit machines that came out after the CD32 smoked it big time. Again a little to late even if it was the first one. Maybe if it had a dedicated 3D chip and not just the planar to chuncy convert "Akiko".. 2D was out at that time, it was all going 3D.

As for the web page. What's the purpose ? To make the Amiga community look even more stupid to outsiders then it all ready does ? People will either think "Wow, what a nice system (to bad it looks like a VCR) and are turned of that it's just a fantasy..(and no comming hardware/software sollution even comes close to that)" or just laugh and think "Yet Another Amiga Lunatic"..
Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: pierre on July 25, 2006, 10:03:49 PM
why and how does amiga end up with all sorts of lunatics?  Thou honestly I don't think we should be harsh on pro amiga ppl. I mean maybe this person was not aware of the CDTV and the CD32. peace
 
Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: pierre on July 25, 2006, 10:07:26 PM
from the web page.....

You can fell the freadom by controlling your
        feel     freedom

Sorry could not help it... I can't spell but if you want ppl to take this seriously, check your spelling...
Pierre
Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: Blade on July 25, 2006, 10:58:44 PM
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we must not forget that the CD32 was the worlds first true 32bit console.


I really wonder how long this myth lasts ;) CD32 was definetly *not* the "first"
32bit Console, the FM Towns Marty was (And they probably sold even more units then Commo produced CD32s) Not that it really matterd anyway, compared with the 3DO which appeared
almost the same time, the cd32 looked very dated, same with the Jaguar which came about
a year later, and remember both failed too...
Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: zombi on July 26, 2006, 07:10:27 AM
@piru:

I mean, there are at least several alternative machines, and customers have fredom of choise in game console market.

On the other hand, for personal computing %90 percent of machines are IBM competable PCs. It is nearly impossible to produce an alternative machine and make profit.

@pierre:

Sorry. I'm not a native English speaker and I know my English is not so good. And this was a quick job. That's why there can be spelling errors. I'll check them.

And this page is nothing to be taken serious.
Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: seer on July 26, 2006, 07:39:32 AM
Let's see..
Sega failed..
3DO failed..
MS had a pretty hard time..

To make a new console that can compete with Sony/MS/Nintendo.. Well I guess it takes more money then designing/building the A1/Peg. At best OS4/MOS can be made to run on the P3 or X360 but even that doesn't look likely.

And this page is nothing to be taken serious.

And how does the casual web surfer know that ? He/she firsts reads this thread before he finds your page ?

Not that it really matters.. Any potential customer is most likely allready saw Amiga Incs website..
Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: Jiffy on July 26, 2006, 08:10:43 AM
Ah. The gazillionth daydream of the 'ultimate up to date current Amiga'. Yawn.
Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: Piru on July 26, 2006, 08:31:40 AM
@zombi
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I mean, there are at least several alternative machines, and customers have fredom of choise in game console market.

On the other hand, for personal computing %90 percent of machines are IBM competable PCs. It is nearly impossible to produce an alternative machine and make profit.

That doesn't mean that game console market would be any less competitive. On PC market they at least don't sell the HW with losses, but on game console market they do (the idea being that the sold games will balance the situation, and eventually generate profit, see XBOX).

It is much harder to make new game console than to make new PC design (be it regular PC or otherwise). You need something like resources of Microsoft and billions to back the program to make it happen... For the first 4 years, Microsoft made 4 billion USD losses, but eventually XBOX turned profitable. Now, I'd claim that you don't need to take 4 billion & 4 year losses with regular PC hardware or even some custom arch to make it even.

The game console market is VERY hard to get into, it's basically ruled by the three big ones now: Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft.

So again:
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Why? I think it's a good idea. Because competition in game consol market is not as hard as personel computer market.

Because you don't have the 4 billion USD. Because you don't have the resources it takes.
Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: HellCoder on July 26, 2006, 10:11:20 AM
Since we are all daydreaming.
A device that would combine the PSx, a DVD/HDTV, a WEB browser / computer and a music system would be great. Especially if it looks good too. Basicly it means a computer in a nice box. I'd love to see an Amiga logo on it though. But that's the dream about it.
  :lol:
Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: jarrody2k on July 26, 2006, 02:35:38 PM
I know! I know!

Let's invent awesome.  Put it in box form.  Call it Amiga!

Sell millions...

*dreams*

Jarrod
Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: Gojirax on July 26, 2006, 03:38:10 PM
CD32 (And CDTV) would have dominated the market had there been proper financing and advertising. CD32 was Amiga's "iMac", but they couldn't pull it out in time.

Nice idea though. I like the idea of bundling joysticks, remote control and kb/mouse in one unit, integrating them seemlessly. (Even allowing you to run the computer with the remote or the joystick if you just wanted to do something simple.)

Some of that was the dream that Jim whatshisname from Gateway was looking towards when GW pulled the plug.
Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: redfox on July 27, 2006, 02:43:54 AM
@zombi

Amiga07 :-D

I like it.  I don't see any problem with daydreaming.

---
redfox
Title: Re: Daydreaming
Post by: coldfish on July 27, 2006, 03:37:28 AM
There's nothing wrong with dreaming.
As a pisstake, this page is pretty good!

ps; What's with that rainbow effect? (shudder)