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The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Alternative Operating Systems => Topic started by: ZXoney on July 18, 2006, 05:46:17 AM
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Check this out!
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=14803
Now thats NICE!
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Woof! :-o
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Hold your breath. A G5 Peg is one thing. MorpOS running on it another. Let`s see how long the MophOS team needs to do the nessecary adjustments (as Genesi itself has little to no interest in that. They will just sell it as a Linux machine)
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True, but one can hope and dream! :-D
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cool
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Check this out!
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=14803
Now thats NICE!
$1599! Are they smoking crack? :shocked:
Dammy
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dammy wrote:
Check this out!
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=14803
Now thats NICE!
$1599! Are they smoking crack? :shocked:
Dammy
That is very reasonably priced for a 4-CPU 64bit Full Server Setup.
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Does MOS actually run 64-bit native? That would be rather cool :-)
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That is very reasonably priced for a 4-CPU 64bit Full Server Setup.
I'd have to see some benchmarks to believe that. I can get a mighty fine 2x Dual Core rack mount for that much money. There is a reason why Apple left G5s for Intel ya know.
Dammy
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dammy wrote:
Check this out!
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=14803
Now thats NICE!
$1599! Are they smoking crack? :shocked:
Dammy
Whatever it is they're smoking, they should give some to Steve Jobs - Apple's quad-core 2.5Ghz G5 machine starts at $3299, over double the cost of Genesi's.
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There is a reason why Apple left G5s for Intel ya know
Yes, they ran too hot for Apple to fit them inside a 1" thin notebook.
Speed-wise, the Powermac G5 Quad stomps all over my MacBook Pro (3.5 x faster in Quake 4 at high resolutions for example, according to BareFeats).
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Well, a quad cpu versus a single dual core isn't exactly fair, is it?
Also, quake4 isn't the best benchmark - the D3 engine performance is hugely affected by how much video ram you have to store all those massive textures and dot3 maps, and of course, how quickly your GPU can render it all. Beyond a certain point, the CPU instruction munching speed stops being relevant, the graphics system simply cant go any faster.
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dammy wrote:
That is very reasonably priced for a 4-CPU 64bit Full Server Setup.
I'd have to see some benchmarks to believe that. I can get a mighty fine 2x Dual Core rack mount for that much money. There is a reason why Apple left G5s for Intel ya know.
Dammy
And there are many reasons why some businesses prefer/require the use of PPC CPU's.
The world is not black and white Dammy.
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Karlos wrote:
Does MOS actually run 64-bit native? That would be rather cool :-)
Nope!
MorphOS is just 32 bit as OS 4.0...
...and both OSes could NOT use Simmetrical MultiProcessing (SMP) to let the scheduled jobs that the OS should perform in its normal daily working, all the threads, all I/O and the allocations of tasks and data into memory to be splitted on any core of any CPU to divide the work, reduce the usage and increase speed.
At least Bill Buck said that these new Pegasos III are ready for virtualization.
This means (rough and approximatively) that you can run one istance of MorphOS in one G5 core by using 32 bit mode compatibility, and another instance into another core using same mode.
Or you can run Linux, in one or two cores Linux, Mac OS in a third core, and MorphOS in the fourth core.
Or maybe you can use Linux in full 64 bit in two cores and doing something else into other two cores with MacOS in 32 bit and MorphOS in 32 bit.
Or again you can run Linux in one CPU using both cores at full 64bit, and MacOS in MOLK emulation in the other CPU using both cores at 64 bit.
(two Oses at full 64 bit running at same time)
Or even finally you can run four istances of MorphOS, all running in 32 bit emulation in any of G5 cores.
If true, then it could be really interesting unless someone will decide that AmigaOS or MorphOS should be ported to 64 bit and modified to support SMP.
Time will see.
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No use if it wont even run MorphOS.....
From what i heard, there is no plans on porting MorphOS to a new Pegasos box..
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Tomas wrote:
No use if it wont even run MorphOS.....
From what i heard, there is no plans on porting MorphOS to a new Pegasos box..
Bill Buck needs to sell a certain amount of Pegasos III to stay this year in pair with his business plan.
He asked us MorphOS users if we want to buy one, and we answered him (whole users as one man) that we will buy one if he could grant us full MorphOS support.
Now the questions are:
1) How much money could Bill Buck invest into MorphOS?
2) Do the MorphOS team will continue to blame and disgust Bill Buck or they will agree to accept money from Bill?
It is only a matter on about how many money will make the difference between to have or not to have a new MorphOS for G5.
A very shakepearian dilemma! :lol:
(The theatre of Amiga dramas sure it overcomes all tragedies ever written)... :rtfm: :crazy: :lol: :lol: :lol: :-P
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Don't worry! When I win the lotto I'll make sure MorphOS is ported to 64bit! Maybe even build a Power6 Desktop for MorphOS with 128 cores :-D
But really I just wanted you guys to know what was cooking at Genesi, Just something to read...
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A1000/AddIDE/Supra4x4SCSI
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A600(Stock)
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nicholas wrote:
The world is not black and white Dammy.
Unless your'e a Lion...
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thats great news! Love him or hate him... BB is taking MOS/Amiga users places when other companies are not.
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Love him or hate him... BB is taking MOS/Amiga users places when other companies are not.
Pffft! ASUS is taking AROS/Amiga users far more places at a fraction of the price.
Dammy
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ZXoney wrote:
Don't worry! When I win the lotto I'll make sure MorphOS is ported to 64bit! Maybe even build a Power6 Desktop for MorphOS with 128 cores :-D
You share same ideas with me... ;-)
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@Dammy
I'm a fan of AROS, watching it on the sidelines waiting for maturity.. I suspect AROS will eventually overtake everyting else. That said, Pegasos/MOS is still probably the most complete solution available today.
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Lando wrote:
There is a reason why Apple left G5s for Intel ya know
Yes, they ran too hot for Apple to fit them inside a 1" thin notebook.
Speed-wise, the Powermac G5 Quad stomps all over my MacBook Pro (3.5 x faster in Quake 4 at high resolutions for example, according to BareFeats).
But my MacBook Pro stomps all over a 2Ghz Dual G5... running Logic Pro. :-D