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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Retromania on July 03, 2006, 01:41:30 PM
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Hi everyone
I have the opportunity of buying an A1200 in a Power Tower case with the following spec ...
A1200 Motherboard
Phase5 PowerPC 603e @ 175mhz with 68040 CPU
Phase5 BLizzard Vision 3d Graphics accelerator with 8mb
128mb system memory
4-port IDE interface
Windows Keyboard interface
CD-Rewriter
6gb HDD
POWER computing TOWER
I am told it is in mint condition.
The price would be £275 (UK Pounds). Is this a fair price for the above spec do you think ?
Thanks
Retromania
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Value for money = Yes.
Bargain = No.
Lack of a scandoubler kills it I am afraid.
You wont be able to use it to play Classic Amiga games without a 15KHz monitor or a scandoubler.
You will probably pay an extra £60 for a scandoubler.
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and lack of scsi too..
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Thanks for your reply.
Would you walk away from it then ? I was tempted by the PPC card and BVision 3D. I do have the possibility of an A4000 depending on spec too but am awaiting the details.
Regards
Retromania
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I'd say it's a bit expensive for the specs, but depends of course what you want and what's available and how hurry you are :)
It's slowest PPC accelerator available... I myself would like to have 060 if running 68k OS or faster PPC if running MOS for example...
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Would you walk away from it then ? I was tempted by the PPC card and BVision 3D.
I would throw the dog a bone. Ask the person if they have a scandoubler or 15KHz monitor they could throw in for free. They MUST have one or the other.
You never know they may already have an internal scandoubler and not consider it a feature and have not listed it?
If they wont throw in either say "Hmmm, I dont know... it's pretty useless without one you know...tut tut.. effects the price you know... lets say £200"?
You never know you could talk it into a bargain?
If it has an Automon, you'd be laughing :-)
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Thanks for the advice - MUCH appreciated !!!
I have asked the very question just now :-) Waiting for a reply.
Thanks again !!!
Regards
Retromania
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but then, getting a PPC card is like pulling teeth, and if you have a little practice with a soldering iron, and you're not scared to reflash the PPC card, its not too much of a problem to upgrade it to an 060...
plus it has the bvision card, again, expensive and not too easy to get hold of.
the total price is cheaper than i got my BPPC, Bvision card, and 060 chip, so i'd call it value for money in a way. the lack of scsi would bother me though. but horses for courses...
:-)
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darksun9210 wrote:
the total price is cheaper than i got my BPPC, Bvision card, and 060 chip, so i'd call it value for money in a way.
Ahh, I see.
So because you paid a premium it will make you feel better if everyone else ALSO pays a premium?
I guess there is some logic in there somewhere :lol:
@Retromania
Let us know if you buy it and for how much.
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Ask the person if they have a scandoubler or 15KHz monitor they could throw in for free. They MUST have one or the other.
Heh, I'd rather have the scandoubler instead of a 15 KHz monitor. You'd properbly end up with a C= 1084 monitor and are forced to have a dual monitor setup.
£275 isn't exactly a bargain, even if it had a scandoubler.
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doctorq wrote:
£275 isn't exactly a bargain, even if it had a scandoubler.
I used to think that, but prices are just stoopid at the moment so I have just had to rethink things.
Taken from previous ebay auctions:
Internal Scandoubler £60-£80
A1200 motherboard £30
Power Tower £20-£40 (Oooh, just noticed that PowerC have stopped selling Amiga stuff)
Bvision £50
BPPC £140
Total £300 - £340
That aint including RAM, HDD, keyboard adapter etc.
I'd rather have the scandoubler instead of a 15 KHz monitor
So would I but the seller might not necessarily have one.
Amiga hardware prices have gone nuts. I was looking forward to the new "low cost" A600 accelerator from Jens Schoenfeld, but at £99 I dont know if I will bother.
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For video signals good TV with scart will do too :) So not necessarily video-monitor or scandoubler is needed. Heck.. I even don't have TV on my a1200 right now, video modes are viewed with tv-card on Mediator :)
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Yeuck.
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Amiga hardware prices have gone nuts. I was looking forward to the new "low cost" A600 accelerator from Jens Schoenfeld, but at £99 I dont know if I will bother.
It took Jens 2 years and a lot of work to develop this accelerator.
Is £99 to much?
I dont think so.
Look at the prices people are willing to pay to get a SRAM card to get what? A few MB Fastram.
I dont understand all this complaining, first that there are no new hardware and when there is people are complaing about the price...
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Greetings
Well, I went for it in the end :-)
I got it for £275 but got some extra software thrown in along with various manuals.
Looking at recent prices on ebay, I think it is a reasonable price. Bargain - perhaps not. But its an Amiga 1200 in Power tower case with PPC card (albeit 040 160mhz) with BVision graphics card. Happy Days !
Retromania
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Congratulations, at least it's a decent setup :-) Have had a lot of fun from using my A1200T with the same expansions (and a few extras).
As for the price; if you are happy with it, who cares about the price??
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Maybe you should have waited until the end of the auction to get it cheaper.:evil:
Linky (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=016&item=260002785028&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1)
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Maybe - but bearing in mind that I asked the Seller if he would add a buy it now price BEFORE there were any bids and the conversation went from there, I am still reasonably happy with the price.
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Retromania wrote:
Maybe - but bearing in mind that I asked the Seller if he would add a buy it now price BEFORE there were any bids and the conversation went from there, I am still reasonably happy with the price.
Not quite right. There were 10 bids on the tower before the auction had ended early.
linky (http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=260002785028)
It's not very fair on all the others who were bidding and watching. Don't you think? :madashell:
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You misunderstood - there were no bids when I asked the Seller if they would add a buy it now - and the conversation went from there. All perfectly innocent. I wasn't out to try and dupe anyone - there was no-one bidding at the time.
A little unfair and un-called for but I can understand your point of view.
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By the way, I was referring to your comment being a little unfair and uncalled for, just for the record ! :-)
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Retromania wrote:
By the way, I was referring to your comment being a little unfair and uncalled for, just for the record ! :-)
Why?? I was just stating some facts here. :rtfm:
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The FACT IS that I asked the question before anyone was bidding. It was a fair enough question at that time. Because the seller continued the discussion after bids had been placed is not my fault. I was not keeping an eye on who was bidding by that time.
Your inference that I have been unfair to other bidders and people watching is what I am objecting to. This is NOT FACT. OK ? Enough said !!!
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Hi - just read the policy on using capitals, or rather not using capitals !
Please accept my apologies for shouting in my previous reply !!! :-(
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Well, now you've got it have fun with it :)
I have a 233MHz 603e here... Haven't built it yet, waiting for a few other parts to arrive..
Got the motherboard, drives, cables etc all ready.. waiting for a busboard to arrive then I will be designing and making a custom case to go with it...
I hope you'll enjoy your purchase :)
Edit: Anyway.. I guess you could still plug it into a TV using the composite connector to play games?
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A 233 MHz 603e?? How??
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From what I can tell, it's overclocked...
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An odd number to overclock to. As long as it works :-)
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Well, I bought it like this... and it does seem to be that speed (when I tested it briefly)
When I put it into it's nice, new, shiny, custom made case it'll have a load of cooling on it :D
It's only an 040 one which will slow things down a little... but it's largely so I can have a play with a PPC amiga...
If I really wanted to I'd send it to the amiga center in france and have it modded to an 060.. but I'm not that bothered about it really...
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If I really wanted to I'd send it to the amiga center in france and have it modded to an 060.. but I'm not that bothered about it really...
Can you tell me more about the Amiga Centre in France and what they can do with an 040 PPC card ?
Thanks ...
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Visit this site: http://www.amigacenter.com/Homer.html
Pretty much if you supply them an 060 processor (or possibly pay them for one) I think they will fit you one on your boards (to replace your 040)
I know it's possible to be done as I've seen people with it done..
Well, drop them an e-mail and say what u wanna do and they'll tell u what you need to do and what it'll cost :)
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Have decided to remove the comment and give this person another week ...
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Dude that sucks... have you contacted E-Bay?
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A quick update for you all ...
The Amiga eventually arrived 3 weeks after the cheque was sent to the seller. The box that the Amiga was packed in was in a really bad way and had not been taped properly. The seller had not used any polystyrene packing at all, like he promised to use and the whole thing was in a bit of a state. The Parcel Force man said he would not blame my other half for not accepting it as he would do the same ! (I was at work at the time). So the item was refused and sent back to the sender. I had already emailed the seller to ask for my money back as he had had my cash for 2 weeks after the cheque had cleared without sending me the Amiga and I just wanted my cash back.
Anyway, we are now 2 weeks on from the date the Amiga was sent back to him and I still do not have my money back. Nor do I have any reply at all to any email I have sent to him.
I am sorry to say that I have now had to take legal advice to try and recover my money (Originally £316.35 inc postage costs). I have told the seller that I will happily accept the postal charges as the item was refused and sent back (due to the bad packing of it) and I have also said I will cover his ebay costs if he just sends me the balance - but no response !
If anyone sees this Amiga on ebay again it is being sold illegally so please avoid it !!!
I have had a conversation with the Police and they have said there may be grounds for criminal proceedings on the grounds of theft.
Thanks.
Retromania
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Hi again - yet another update ...
How weird is this ? ...
Having heard nothing at all from the seller after 4 weeks had passed since the Amiga was returned to him, I contacted Parcel Force out of curiosity, just to make sure the Amiga did actually get sent back to him. Eureka !!! After several calls and and a couple of call-backs, it transpired that the Amiga was sitting in Parcel Force's depot with no label on it, so they did not know where to send it back to. So it had just been sitting there in the depot for 4 weeks, doing nothing and going nowhere.
So, I take back the moaning re the sender not responding to my emails (although you would have thought he would at least have replied to at least one of the emails I sent, saying he had never received it back etc ! Could have saved me a lot of time and worry). Anyway, I arranged for Parcel Force to re-deliver the machine and it turned up today. The box is a bit battered and the 2nd box of software is still "in transit" and on its way to me. I haven't checked it yet so wish me luck - hopefully the 1200, the PPC card and BVision will all be ok having been hauled up and down the UK's motorways for several weeks.
This is definitely the end of this post.
Phew !!!