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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: leirbag28 on June 30, 2006, 05:15:07 AM
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Boy oh boy oh boy...............do You see the possibilities? Goodness.............just imagine me Doing a SCALA/Powerpoint Presentation out of my pocket..with an attached USB harddrive or even 1gb Thumb drive!
Tsk Tsk Tsk! this is where Amiga could have been....... way ahead and all!
this reallllllyyyyy ticks me off.
http://gp2x.co.uk/gp2xbreakoutboard.html
it has 720 x 480 resolution and S-Video out to connect to a TV or Projector.
Sooooo Freaking simple to do.
THis just may be my next machine when I abandon Amiga finally.
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Tsk tsk, no Amiga emulator. What a lame system. ;-)
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they are working on it:
http://wiki.gp2x.org/wiki/UAE4all
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Plus after finishing the GBA-version of it the author is porting Payback to this machine. I allready got one, but hadn`t time to play arounf with it a lot.
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already a 1 year old machine with low CPU/GPU... :-?
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I proposed the same thing for a Gamecube but nobody thought it could be done cheaply. The GC's parallel port can move data at 81MB/s. I wouldn't complain about a 487.5Mhz PPC Amiga with 40MB of RAM for about $150 total.
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@lou_dias
IIRC, you posted questioning the possibility of porting OS4 to the GameCube. I don't think that's what Leirbag is suggesting. He is just saying that this kind of portable multimedia machine is what Amiga could have been today.
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moto
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leirbag28 wrote:
THis just may be my next machine when I abandon Amiga finally.
Wouldn't a proper Laptop be a better idea?
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@bloodline
Wouldn't a proper Laptop be a better idea?
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No......and I will tell you why...............................what is every company trying to do right now?
Making Palm Tops............shrinking that Laptop intio a PDA size............thats the future.............with Keyboard that roll into your pocket.
Sure An Amiga Laptop would be highly desirable...but I am so sure they wopuld screw that up beyong belief.
I personally believe the Amiga should always be at the forefront of VIDEO.................so an "Amiga Laptop" would actually be a console with HDTV LCD screen, shaped exactly like a laptop..............but Native Video OUT would be COMPONENT HDTV and S-VIDEO at highter than 1080i or 1080p
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Elektro wrote:
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Good point Elektro!
:lol:
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moto
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leirbag28 wrote:
@bloodline
Wouldn't a proper Laptop be a better idea?
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No......and I will tell you why...............................what is every company trying to do right now?
Making Palm Tops............shrinking that Laptop intio a PDA size............thats the future.............with Keyboard that roll into your pocket.
Sure An Amiga Laptop would be highly desirable...but I am so sure they wopuld screw that up beyong belief.
I personally believe the Amiga should always be at the forefront of VIDEO.................so an "Amiga Laptop" would actually be a console with HDTV LCD screen, shaped exactly like a laptop..............but Native Video OUT would be COMPONENT HDTV and S-VIDEO at highter than 1080i or 1080p
No, I mean for whatever task you want to do with it... A Cheap MacBook can display HD 720p (the 17" MBP can do better than 1080p). I've done the PDA thing, it's good but they loose out to Multifunction Entertainment devices (iPod, PSP, etc...).
AMiGA Inc. dropped the ball long ago... time to forget about it and move on.
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@bloodline
Sorry..........but Mac or PC's still cant do Video Properly
so so so sad.................but at the same time encouraging to see Amiga is still the solution.
THats why I havent moved on to PowerPoint and still use SCALA.
I occasionally do PowerPoint Jobs for Hotels, Night clubs and events and such...............and let me tell you...................Amiga can do all of it pretty much........and so much better in many cases.
Unbelievably amazing and encouraging at the same time.....it confirms my reason for having an Amiga.
its a constant reminder to keep it.
and Yes Amiga "Dropped the Ball" probably..............that doesnt mean the AMiga concept should die.......on the contrary............being wehat I see today and how Macs and PC's are imitating the Amiga right now as we speak...........constantly..................................then it just show how much of an open Window a NEW Amiga still has.
Windows Vista and OSX are still playing with Public Screens...............none do it like the Amiga as well as the Amiga..............sure they have nice special effects and transistions............but Have the Amiga add that too and it remains king.
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leirbag28 wrote:
@bloodline
Sorry..........but Mac or PC's still cant do Video Properly
Windows Vista and OSX are still playing with Public Screens...............none do it like the Amiga as well as the Amiga..............sure they have nice special effects and transistions............but Have the Amiga add that too and it remains king.
Err... if you say so...(http://img.slickdeals.net/images/smilies2/crazy.gif)(http://aros-exec.org/uploads/shakehead.gif)
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motorollin wrote:
@lou_dias
IIRC, you posted questioning the possibility of porting OS4 to the GameCube. I don't think that's what Leirbag is suggesting. He is just saying that this kind of portable multimedia machine is what Amiga could have been today.
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moto
Well if you read the last 15 pages of my thread, I pretty much had given up on OS4 and was more into a more personal and portable platform based on AROS. A device such as this for a console guarrantees highly available hardware. As for storage, USB flash and SD cards are the future.
Imagine carrying around a "LIVE" disc for your console port of choice and an SD card for storage and settings. An indash LCD hooked up to a Wii (which is the size of a 1 din car stereo) makes it an auto-OS as well. Now that's mobile...auto-mobile. :-D
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@lou_dias
Sorry, I didn't read the whole thread. With the correct SDK, there's absolutely no reason why AROS couldn't be ported to the GP2X, or, indeed, the GameCube. A live AROS disc for a console would be cool, though unfortunately most (all?) consoles will not boot a DVD/CD-R unless they are modified.
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moto
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@bloodline
I say so from experience..............not just talking here
as I said...I work in New York in hotels...clubs, parties and events.......around PC and Mac users....my brother who I constantly hang with is a Mac Freak.
I just laugh privately when I see the trouble the spent figuring out whats the proper resolution for video................or why their is black borders around their video if they selected 720 x 480
when they finally get it right.its too blury.....if they get around fixing that............the Video cracks and never runs smooth.
The only time Video usually workes well is when they run it in a PC native mode: 640 x 480 or 320 x 240 and all that on either a Projector (VGA) or a Monitor (VGA)
See the trick today is that TV's are turning into VGA screens and PC resolutions rather than normal NTSC and PAL screens..........this si to make TV's conform to PC's
Sad............and stupid.
And I am specifically talking about Pentium 4's and High end Macs here..not old crap..............and I am comparing my CD32/SX32 pro to these.
Refreshing!
I dont know how much of an avid Amiga user you are, but if you have been.......especially for video.............you might get exactly what I am talking about. :-)
Its basically the same feeling you get when emulating a Machine..............its just not the same!
thats how Video Feels on PC and Mac
We Amigans are not fanatics Blindly............its for a reason.its cuz we are more intelligent that the average PC user and even more than some so called PC and Mac professionals..................so far, I have seen that I know more than most PC and Mac professionals............................and I dont consider myself professional :-)
I attribute it to the Rightness of the Amiga way. it really is true.
it is the same with my Faith in God.......I dont follow that blindly...........I study the Bible daily..........the more I study it.the more I realise God is real as can be.
Notice I said Study.......the church is called to know what they believe.......
unfortunately........there are many who dont know what they believe....have gonbe to chuurch all their lives.but never piucked up the Bible..............How dumb is that? I wanna make sure Im not being tricked.
Im sure Amigns here can relate what Im saying about the Amiga and what we know about it without a doubt and the reasons we stick to it. althought others are just simply addicted for nostalgic reasons.
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leirbag28 wrote:
See the trick today is that TV's are turning into VGA screens and PC resolutions rather than normal NTSC and PAL screens..........this si to make TV's conform to PC's
Personally I welcome this. TVs are becoming HD rather than being limited by the old standards, and at least there will be global standards rather than a different standard depending on where you are in the world. PAL and NTSC are outdated IMO.
That said, getting an Amiga to work on a standard TV was certainly easier than getting my Mac Mini to work - if I use the adapter I either get big black borders or ridiculous overscan (not great for watching subbed anime!)
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motorollin wrote:
@lou_dias
Sorry, I didn't read the whole thread. With the correct SDK, there's absolutely no reason why AROS couldn't be ported to the GP2X, or, indeed, the GameCube. A live AROS disc for a console would be cool, though unfortunately most (all?) consoles will not boot a DVD/CD-R unless they are modified.
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moto
It costs a $15 chip and a tweak of a variable resistor to get the GC to read DVDr discs...
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@maffoo
I welcome 1 Standard too! such as HDTV.........just in higher resolutions. And NOT from a PC screen.
But yeah.you get me on the Mac and PC video OUT issues. its fake output.
Not even the awesome ATI ALL IN WONDER pros get it right.
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@leirbag:
:bow:
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I have no experience with realtime video editing, but as for just displaying something on a TV/projector/whatever, a PC can really do whatever you need. Just for the record, I have a GeForce FX-5200, three years old and not even a high-end card to begin with. It can drive up to two displays at once using VGA, DVI, or S-Video connectors. That is, two displays with different resolutions and refresh rates. I have an old 19" monitor hooked up to the S-Video and I have no problem getting games, emulators, AVIs, DVDs, or just the windoze desktop to display properly on it. I can even customize the overscan and pixel clock.
Also, I don't think it's accurate to say that TVs are becoming VGA monitors. That would have been nice, but it would have been WAY TOO EASY. Instead of taking the obvious road to a higher resolution TV standard, we have more signals, connectors, resolutions, and acronyms than we could possibly need, not to mention DRM schemes and various other incompatibilities.
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I have a GP2X and I play Amiga games on it.
The Amiga Emulator for it is quite good for emulating an A500.
Not perfect but heaps of games play perfectly well on it for me. Plus it is still in active development.
EDIT: See http://www.vividvillage.com/
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So let me get this right. That breakout board REQUIRES a GP2 in order to function?
That's not nearly as cool as I thought it was.
Do they make anything as small as that breakout board that can operate as a computer by itself?