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Title: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: Retromania on June 29, 2006, 02:01:11 PM
Hi everyone

I hope its ok to post this thread here - I am on the hunt again for a nice, white, unmarked Amiga 4000 in its original box, with keyboard in box and all original manuals.  Ideally an original spec machine that has not been tinkered with.

Does anyone want to sell one ?

I recently sold mine on ebay and am really gutted that I did so now.  So, instead of moaning about it I am going to buy another one ! :-)  Well, with your help I HOPE I am going to buy another one !

I am a stickler for a nice clean unmarked machine though so this will have to be mint for it to be what I want.  I don't mind if it is an 030 or an 040 but I would rather avoid the cheaper, cut down version (was this Rev D motherboard ?).

I don't know if there is such a beast out there but if so please, please, please tell me about it.  I am in the UK so it will need to be a UK spec machine and keyboard.

Thanks in dire anticipation

Retromania
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: Flashlab on June 29, 2006, 02:15:02 PM
You had such a setup all original with boxes? And you sold it?!  :-o

Well I guess you got a lot of money for it; you're gonna need it to buy again... Good luck!
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: Retromania on June 29, 2006, 02:21:03 PM
Oooh don't - the thought is too painful ! :-(

Thanks re the good luck though !
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: alexh on June 29, 2006, 02:24:16 PM
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I would rather avoid the cheaper, cut down version (was this Rev D motherboard ?)

Ouch. I feel just the opposite. IMHO these are the BEST and rarest of A4000 motherboards! Built in 68030 incase your cyberstorm ever blows up. Rev11 Buster soldered to the board, CR type battery rather than the leaky barrel type. 2Mbyte Chip RAM soldered to the motherboard!

If you get one and it is a REVD, I'll swap ya!
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: Retromania on June 29, 2006, 02:27:01 PM
Excellent point well made !!!

ANY REV board is fine with me !

I have a horrible feeling I am not going to find a nice boxed example though ! :-(  Why did I ever think of selling mine ?  Ooops - I said I wasn't going to moan ! Sorry !!!
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: x56h34 on June 29, 2006, 02:27:11 PM
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alexh wrote:

Ouch. I feel just the opposite. IMHO these are the BEST and rarest of A4000 motherboards! Built in 68030 incase your cyberstorm ever blows up. Rev11 Buster soldered to the board, CR type battery rather than the leaky barrel type. 2Mbyte Chip RAM soldered to the motherboard!

If you get one and it is a REVD, I'll swap ya!


I agree. I have/own a standard revision B system, but having a D would have been so much cooler.
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: Flashlab on June 29, 2006, 02:40:18 PM
I have Rev B and would like Rev D too! :lol:
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: doctorq on June 29, 2006, 03:04:37 PM
Why replace something that works??
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: Framiga on June 29, 2006, 03:13:58 PM
if are you speaking about A4000CR, forget it.

Never got A CSMK2 working on one on these RC.

Enjoy your revB :-)
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: alexh on June 29, 2006, 03:26:49 PM
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doctorq wrote:
Why replace something that works??

Because I've got two of the same?
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: tonyvdb on June 29, 2006, 03:27:50 PM
Hi Retromania, Thats a TALL order you have.

Its going to be almost impossible to find a rev.B A4000 in mint condition in box let alone a rev.D one. 80% of the A4000's out there are still beeing used and the rest are sitting in closets collecting dust and the owners dont even know how valuble they are.
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: x56h34 on June 29, 2006, 03:30:55 PM
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doctorq wrote:
Why replace something that works??


I would not replace it, but I'm just saying...a rev D would have been cooler to own. :-)

I know that finding a mint A4000 is hard enough, let alone a rev D.
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: x56h34 on June 29, 2006, 03:33:10 PM
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Framiga wrote:
if are you speaking about A4000CR, forget it.

Never got A CSMK2 working on one on these RC.

Enjoy your revB :-)


That's weird. I wonder why it didn't work. Did you set clock jumpers to INT?
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: doctorq on June 29, 2006, 03:36:41 PM
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Because I've got two of the same?


Ha ha, I should have started searching a long ago then.

Seriously, those boards are collectors items, so the chance of getting one of those are very slim. Most people wouldn't want to pay the price they cost anyways.
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: Framiga on June 29, 2006, 03:45:00 PM
"That's weird. I wonder why it didn't work. Did you set clock jumpers to INT?"

that simple.... because there are 2 versions of A4000CR.

The one i tryed was without the 030 CPU soldered (very rare) and hence withouth the 50Mhz cristal.

Other than that, even if i understand that it was the last A4000 mobo produced, i don't find it a great deal (other small issue on Zorro autoconfig as well)

Anyway is a matter of choise/taste. I would never swap a revB with a CR one :-)
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: Retromania on June 29, 2006, 03:46:22 PM
I know, I know - but if anyone does have one or sees one on ebay then at least I am asking the right people !

Tall order indeed but surely, somewhere there must be one ?  Come everyone, check those cupboards again !

Still hoping ...

Retromania

PS - Do you think an Amiga 1200 PPC 603, Bvsion 3d, Tower system would be a good buy at £250 ?  Power Computing Tower I think.
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: weirdami on June 29, 2006, 09:56:11 PM
If anyone can find one, redrumloa can!
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: rojacop on July 06, 2006, 11:53:17 PM
Hi, I may be able to help (slim chance), I have done a big pc network upgrade for a local business who have asked me to remove their old amiga 3000 & 4000 computers. I have no idea exactly what hardware there is but i know there is at least one 4000/040 (i think) and one 3000.
If you could tell me where to find any revision data or relevant information I will gladly give you the spec to see if it is what you are after??? Other than that i think they were heading for the skip!
Let me know if this could be of interest??

I am based in the UK by the way.
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: SHADES on July 07, 2006, 12:03:30 AM
@rojacop

OMG the skip!!
Are they mad?

Tell them about here! they could get money for AMIGA gear. Mind you most of it these days is too expensive for what it is, There will be a lot of interest in it regardless.

I don't understand why companies throw out this stuff!!
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: thewalrus on July 07, 2006, 12:15:41 AM
For your information if you happen to locate a discolored yellow machine you can by using a special paint spray the front panels very successfully. I have got this done professionally to several of my 4000 desktops and I cannot tell the difference between a painted one and a unpainted one. They come up like a brand new machine! Kind regards Chris
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: Dr_Righteous on July 07, 2006, 01:50:25 AM
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tonyvdb wrote:
...and the rest are sitting in closets collecting dust and the owners dont even know how valuble they are.


That's how I got my A4000D... Paid the guy $25 for it. Poor b*st*rd. Now sitting comfortably inside a spankin new Antec tower with an also spankin new Mediator 4000D busboard. :-D
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: justthatgood on July 07, 2006, 02:55:47 AM
Whoa, that's like trying to chase a rainbow to get the pot of gold. Good luck.
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: Retromania on July 07, 2006, 06:56:11 PM
Hi there

Thank you for the info - yes, I would be interested.  I am happy with any spec and am open-minded.  Please let me know what you find !

Also, can you advise if the machine is boxed (slim chance I know) or not and if there is any yellowing on the front panel ?

Thanks again - I hope to hear from you soon !!! :-)

Best Regards

Retromania

PS - I am in the UK too !
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: Colin_Camper on July 07, 2006, 08:15:35 PM
If I were you I would dig out the old Paypal receipt and send a friendly email to the guy you sold your A4000 to.

I would casually ask him if you could buy it back!

Obviously if you buyer was a diehard addict like us then you probably wont be in luck.

However if it was an impulse buy for a nostalgic ex Amigan he may have taken it out of the box once or twice and may now be secretly wishing he hadn't won it.

Failing this;

Some brand new unopened A500s turned up in Australia recently  and I saw an A2000 that had been stored at a dealer for 25 years - box opened but never taken out of its poly.

Needless to say they all went for sky high prices.

Good luck!   :lol:
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: maffoo on July 07, 2006, 08:21:25 PM
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rojacop wrote:
Hi, I may be able to help (slim chance), I have done a big pc network upgrade for a local business who have asked me to remove their old amiga 3000 & 4000 computers. I have no idea exactly what hardware there is but i know there is at least one 4000/040 (i think) and one 3000.
If you could tell me where to find any revision data or relevant information I will gladly give you the spec to see if it is what you are after??? Other than that i think they were heading for the skip!
Let me know if this could be of interest??

I am based in the UK by the way.


Will the A4000s be going on Ebay? I'd love to get hold of one  :-)
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: Retromania on July 07, 2006, 08:43:54 PM
RE
"If I were you I would dig out the old Paypal receipt and send a friendly email to the guy you sold your A4000 to.

I would casually ask him if you could buy it back!

Obviously if you buyer was a diehard addict like us then you probably wont be in luck.

However if it was an impulse buy for a nostalgic ex Amigan he may have taken it out of the box once or twice and may now be secretly wishing he hadn't won it."

Hi - thanks for the suggestion.  No such luck - already tried ! :-(  Why did I sell it ?  I must want my head examining !!!  Oh foolish things that we do !

Thanks for the Good Luck wishes though !

All the best

Retromania
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: Retromania on July 07, 2006, 08:48:05 PM
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Will the A4000s be going on Ebay? I'd love to get hold of one  


I hope not - I started this thread on a genuine mission to find a nice A4000 - please don't just bung it on ebay - EMAIL ME !!! :-)

Thanks

Retromania (Still in A4000 Denial)
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: TjLaZer on July 07, 2006, 11:03:43 PM
I would just try and get what you can at this point in time!  As you know it is hard trying to find a nice A4000 unit, especially in the EU!  I have four Mint A4000 desktops and one has it's original box which has seen better days.  I doubt I would be able to, or even want to, try to find and buy a mint A4000 unit in the box today!  It would easily fetch over a $1000 US for it surely!  If I were you I would get the best A4000 you can and if the face is in bad shape simply repaint it or just try to get a new one (seen them on ebay for cheap really)  Just make sure the battery has NOT leaked on the board or you will have no RTC (battery backed up time) cabability.  Even with that the machine should work ok unless it has severe leakage.  If that was the case you can expect Fast RAM problems or even worse-dead machine.  Good luck.
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: Argus on July 08, 2006, 12:33:18 AM
Anyone else have Rev. A or C machines?  I have iirc one of each, as well as a Rev. B.
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: Retromania on July 08, 2006, 12:34:59 PM
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I would just try and get what you can at this point in time!


Thanks for the advice.  This is basically what I am doing now.

What a way to learn a lesson huh - sell a pristine machine and regret it the day after !  Doh !!! :-(

All the best

Retromania
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: rojacop on July 09, 2006, 10:14:33 AM
Hi, as soon as i get my grubby mits on them i will email you with all the information i can find. (and maybe some pictures)
......
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: Retromania on July 17, 2006, 08:09:38 PM
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Hi, as soon as i get my grubby mits on them i will email you with all the information i can find. (and maybe some pictures)


Hi rojacop - any news on those Amigas yet ? :-)

Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: Boot_WB on July 30, 2006, 12:21:49 PM
Original Poster - there's one ending shortly on ebay hither (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=003&item=130010151431&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1).

Time is a ticking though...

btw - it's not my auction. :-P
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: Boot_WB on July 30, 2006, 12:40:46 PM
I see you got it anyway :-)
A bit too rich for my blood - I wasn't bidding against you on it, as I've just blown my budget on an a3000 last week.
Congratulations.
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: Retromania on July 31, 2006, 12:10:00 AM
@ Boot_WB

Hey Boot_WB - thanks for the post advising me of the listing - I appreciate it!!!  I have had my eye on it since it was listed and am really pleased I got it - cheers for the congrats too!  Happy Days :-)

So you went for an A3000?  I hope you got a nice machine.  What's the spec?

Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: TjLaZer on July 31, 2006, 12:19:33 AM
Thats a nice little setup, is it yellowed at all?  I hope not!  I also have a 030 based A4000 and a 1960 monitor.  A nice combination!!!  Get a larger HD, any IDE drive will do, if you can find a nice 20GB that would be nice!
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: Retromania on August 12, 2006, 11:50:39 AM
@ TjLaZer

Thanks for the comments :-)  

Is it ever so slightly yellowed on the right hand side but nothing too bad.  

Thanks for the advice re the HD - I have more shopping to do when my bank account can stand it ! :-)

Nice website by the way !!!
Title: Re: Wanted - Amiga 4000 Boxed
Post by: justthatgood on August 12, 2006, 12:06:00 PM
Wow. I still can't believe people are THAT emotionally attached to machines. Sure I named mine, but I name about anything I have.

I was thinking about making my one system Bianca Nieve (it would have had my spare A4000D Rev B. motherboard, Amiga 3.1 roms, and coin battery mod), but getting the parts for it would be too expensive. I just might end up letting the girl sell it for me so we can have money to eat and get fuel,gas,petrol, whatever you call it.

I've realized we are definately in dark times. :-(