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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: keropi on June 27, 2006, 03:37:31 PM

Title: KICKFLASH OS4 clockport pin1 , where???
Post by: keropi on June 27, 2006, 03:37:31 PM
Where is pin1 of the clockport on KickflashOS4???? I need to install a subway there...
lol, what a mess! :laughing

(http://amiga.resource.cx/gallery/Kickflash.jpg)
Title: Re: KICKFLASH OS4 clockport pin1 , where???
Post by: InTheSand on June 28, 2006, 10:15:54 AM
Errr.... you have a 50/50 chance of getting it right! :-)

Seriously, I'm sure you're aware that you really need to know where pin 1 is before plugging anything in...

 - Ali
Title: Re: KICKFLASH OS4 clockport pin1 , where???
Post by: Oli_hd on June 28, 2006, 11:12:47 AM
hehe, Ive just read the manual and thats as helpfull :-/
"Please mind that
the orientation of the port is geared toward expansions by individual Computers,
because other modules might not fir mechanically, or only fit the wrong way
round. The Silversurfer for example only fits the right way round, but other
expansions will not fit correctly. If you start the computer with such an improperly
installed clockport module on Kickflash, the module and Kickflash might be
damaged. This is the case with all clockport expansions by RBM, and for example
the Melody1200. Please check back with the vendor of the clockport module to
find out if it can work on Kickflash. Damages caused by wrong installation are of
course not covered by the warranty."
Title: Re: KICKFLASH OS4 clockport pin1 , where???
Post by: InTheSand on June 29, 2006, 12:00:39 AM
Hehe!

Translation: we're not going to tell you which way you should plug it in, but if you get it wrong, your warranty is invalid!

Nice! :-)

 - Ali
Title: Re: KICKFLASH OS4 clockport pin1 , where???
Post by: Brian on June 29, 2006, 01:07:38 AM
There's only the hard way to go then... looking at the back of the kickflash one can be pritty sure the thick line going right next to the printed "42" is power. If you're lucky you'll find a simular fat line on your clockport hardware and then it's just a matter of maching it up. :)
Title: Re: KICKFLASH OS4 clockport pin1 , where???
Post by: pan1k on June 29, 2006, 01:32:52 AM
Look at the reverse side of the board. Usually pin #1 is a square and the other pins are rounded.
Title: Re: KICKFLASH OS4 clockport pin1 , where???
Post by: keropi on June 29, 2006, 06:14:15 AM
eerrrmmm, no?

(http://amiga.resource.cx/gallery/Kickflash-back.jpg)
Title: Re: KICKFLASH OS4 clockport pin1 , where???
Post by: platon42 on June 29, 2006, 08:01:04 AM
First of all, the clockport does not have a "Pin 1". This is because the part of the clockport connector, that would have this pin, is usually not populated.

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Clock Header Pinout information

                        Type: 22-pin Male DIL Header
   20 22 24 26 28 30 32 34 36 38 40
   19 21 23 25 27 39 31 33 35 37 39

19: GND             Ground                  30:     A2      Address Bus Bit 2
20: +5v             +5v DC                  31:     D23     Data Bus Bit 23
21: INT6            Interupt Request        32:     D22     Data Bus Bit 22
22: _SPARE_CS                               33:     D21     Data Bus Bit 21
23: _RTC_CS         Real Time Clock CS      34:     D20     Data Bus Bit 20
24: _PWR_BAD                                35:     D19     Data Bus Bit 19
25: _IORD           IO Read                 36:     D18     Data Bus Bit 18
26: _IOWR           IO Write                37:     D17     Data Bus Bit 17
27: A5              Address Bus Bit 5       38:     D16     Data Bus Bit 16
28: A4              Address Bus Bit 4       39:     GND   Ground
29: A3              Address Bus Bit 3       40:     +5V   +5v


Note that the GND and Vcc pins are nearly symmetrical on both ends of the connector.

The pin on the Subway with an arrow is GND, and as there  is  a  transistor
close  to this end, I assume this pin is 19 (the transistor is used for the
INT6 line).

Now on Kickflash you should be able to trace the  corresponding  INT6  line
directly  to the zorro connector. Either that or check for _RTC_CS probably
not connected. I *assume* that _RTC_CS is close to the 42 on the left  hand
side (bottom view), as the other side looks like the 8 bit data bus.

I would guess the Pin 20/19 is on the right  hand  side  of  the  top  view
picture.  This means that the subway should be connected with the arrow pin
on the right hand side of the cable (or closer to the middle  than  to  the
outside of the kickflash board).

This is only a guess. I went to the same hell when connecting a  MP3@64  on
my highway...

Good luck. Don't blame me, if this stuff is wrong. Ask Jens and Michael for
safe information ;)
Title: Re: KICKFLASH OS4 clockport pin1 , where???
Post by: alexh on August 24, 2006, 10:13:03 PM
Look at the pinout of that connector. If you reverse it you swap Power and Ground. That is guaranteed to break almost anything plugged in back to front :(
Title: Re: KICKFLASH OS4 clockport pin1 , where???
Post by: keropi on August 24, 2006, 10:25:38 PM
luckily we have this (http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=1556=13) as a guide... I am curious for the mp3@64 though... can amiga use it? platon42?