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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: AmigaBlitter on June 21, 2006, 09:42:13 AM
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Commodore and Amiga - What you think?
http://www.commodoregaming.com/uk-en/Vintage%20C64/Vintage%20C64.aspx
I love the year 1985
:-D
Also a users received a positive reply from commodore:
From the brothers on AW
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=19496&forum=15
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Uhm, how to put this nicely: You're perhaps reading a bit too much to standard corporate reply? Or perhaps: Not in a million years.
Such things as "If Commodore wants to get into the PC business then, it would certainly be cheaper to liscense an OS like OS4 for their product than it would be to try and develop it on their own." (eh, why would anyone develop their own OS!?), "The Amiga has many good things going for it right now." and "I received a similar e-mail 4 months ago. I think that they are interested." ...makes you really wonder if the posters really are serious about this.
Oh I forgot, that's aw.net.
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@AmigaBlitter
Also a users received a positive reply from commodore:
No. If you would have at least a little bit of experience with company emails or corporate business, you would know that this is just a bog-standard way of saying "Thanks, not interested.".
But please, I don't want to stop you from getting excited again over some meaningless and unrealistic BS.
@Piru
Oh I forgot, that's aw.net.
Yep. They have lots of these threads at the moment. Check out this one. (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=19495&forum=33)
"Amiga-Commodore-Motorola maybe?"
Motorola has a mobile called A1200! Will they buy Amiga Inc. and port OS4 to it? How excititng!!!1!!
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I must admit that my nostalgic feelings for the era almost had me consider this to be a realistic coupling of companies.
Almost. But then the rational part of my brain kicked in and I realized it'll never happen. And even if it did happen (and it won't) it still wouldn't be anywhere near the same as 'the good old days'.
Sadly the pioneering days of computing are now squarely in the past and no matter how much one might want them back, they are not going to return.
And thus I'll just have some hobbyist fun with my legion of Commodore computers (Both 8 and 16/32 bit versions) and look favourably on retro-gear like the C64DTV and the Minimig. Expecting anything else to happen at this time is not realistic and will only end in dissapointment.
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And what you think about this:
Dear Davide,
Yes, we are talking to Amiga but I can’t give details at this moment. Please follow our steps. More information will be announced in September!
Thanks!
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I think this is not a standard reply, don't you think?
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And what you think about this: (...)
More information will be announced in September!
It shows that they are at least slightly more creative than the "two more weeks" OS4-gang.
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I think this is not a standard reply, don't you think?
No it isn't, but it isn't confirming OS4 hardware either.
Just talking to someone doesn't mean anything, nor does it automagically mean that some kind of agreement would be made.
Then again, it leaves you the impression that something might happen there. It tells you to follow their steps. It might generate tons of speculation and buzz.
That isn't standard reply, it's good PR. It's just that no amiga related company knows how to make that anymore... ;-)
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No it isn't, but it isn't confirming OS4 hardware either.
There are others working on OS4 hardware.
:-)
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There are others working on OS4 hardware.
Yes, supposedly since the end of 2004, but nobody has seen anything of it yet, not even a photo. Well in Troikas case only a photo that was copied and cropped from a presentation-pdf from Freescale.
Amiga users are just so easy to fool around, especially if they are as naive as you are. The more desperate Amigans become, the more easy they will fall for hoaxes and unrealistic pipe dreams.
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Troika is not the only working on new hardware... ;-)
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Troika is not the only working on new hardware...
Sure, I forgot about ACK, who did around 15 announcements that were not met in a single case.
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OK
Troika and Ack, are not the only working on new hardware...
;-)
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AmigaBlitter wrote:
Troika is not the only working on new hardware... ;-)
Sadly, the only new hardware we can realistically expect with the information we have now is the Minimig. Which, while a very cool bit of kit that I'd love to have, is not OS4 hardware.
Perhaps I'm too negative, but I've waited for the 'new amiga' since 1994 and it still hasn't happened*. I'm thinking it won't.
*) A-Ones & Pegasos don't really count. The former because it's not actually available, the later because it's not actually running Amiga OS.
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Troika and Ack, are not the only working on new hardware...
Only when you believe what Rogue says. He certainly is interested that people "hang on" and believe that there is something happening "pretty soon now". Otherwise there would be even more people leaving. But at a certain point it's just enough.
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Sorry, NDA.
:-)
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There are others working on OS4 hardware.
Troika is not the only working on new hardware...
Troika and Ack, are not the only working on new hardware...
Sorry, NDA.
Oh, this makes me feel so much more confident there will be new OS4 hardware! I can't contain myself!11
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héhé :-D
Some seems to forget that Tulip Computer (Commodore NL) have not any right about " AMIGA ", all licences (Hard & Soft) were sold to Escom, then to Gateway, and to....
As we are in June, I suspect a commercial trainee as the email author... ;-)
I still wonder if Eyetech would accept any other brand to use OS4, don't they have paid a lot for the OS4 exclusivity ? :rtfm:
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Troika, ACk, Minimig...
bbrv promise hardware for the Amiga...
it's seems that hardware is coming or not?
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There's a Commodore company again? Who? When? How? What do they do?
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bbrv promise hardware for the Amiga...
:roll:
it's seems that hardware is coming or not?
Ah, this is soooo exciting, or not? :lol:
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There's a Commodore company again? Who? When? How? What do they do?
Nothing new, the trademark was always around and used for different products, e.g. walkie-talkies, paper shredders, etc.
The current trademark owner (Yeahronimo Media Ventures) bought the rights from Tulip and uses it for labeling MP3-players, music downloads, games, etc.
Enough to get some naive Amiga-kiddies excited about an upcoming Amiga revival. :roll:
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Ahhh, that's unfortunate. They should let it die.
I seem to recall Dell and Sony being among the interested parties in '94 when Commodore originally went bankrupt and the german courts refused, apparently there was much debt to be paid back so the company that took over needed to be able to run a real computer business.
That got lost somewhere along the way of course.
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I think if anything it is possible that Commodore may be discussing licensing some old Amiga technology to use within their Commodore Gaming brand - maybe an Amiga-in-a-joystick. Amiga was synonymous with a games machine in Europe from 1988-92. I certainly don't think they'll be wanting to touch anything to do with OS4 or PPC hardware (they seem to have quite good commercial sense).
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I dont get why people keep hanging onto the PPC/OS4 bandwagon?
My own expectations of the Amiga future dont stretch much beyond a A500-in-a-stick and even that may be pushing it.
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Agreed Lando,
In fact, if they were to partner with any 'Amiga' hardware production at the moment, it would be with MiniMig.
Jarrod.
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The marketing label of 'Commodore-Amiga' could be very powerful in shifting hardware...
...when we finally get some. Other than MP3 players.
Even though 'we' know it's not the same Commodore-Amiga of old, I think the name still holds weight in the mainstream computing world. It would definitely generate interest. And if there's actually a product (!) to back it up, then, hey, they might have a winner on their hands.
Hypothetically, of course.