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Title: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: AGSzabo on June 15, 2006, 06:28:02 PM
hi,

to whom shall i write that i wish to become a betatester for os 4 hardware and software? i expect to get my amigaone or such for free this way. even if i cannot become a betatester i would like to know how to contact the developers.
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: B00tDisk on June 15, 2006, 06:40:24 PM
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AGSzabo wrote:
hi,

to whom shall i write that i wish to become a betatester for os 4 hardware and software? i expect to get my amigaone or such for free this way. even if i cannot become a betatester i would like to know how to contact the developers.


There are no "amigaones" any longer, and nothing on the horizon to replace them.  Look elsewhere for a hobby.
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: adolescent on June 15, 2006, 06:44:42 PM
http://os4.hyperion-entertainment.biz/

Keep in mind that most of the current beta testers paid thousands of dollars for the priviledge.  :crazy:
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: Chain on June 15, 2006, 06:53:33 PM
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AGSzabo wrote:
i expect to get my amigaone or such for free this way.


Some ppl are really crazy  :crazy:

is this from heat? :lol:
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: doctorq on June 15, 2006, 07:01:39 PM
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Chain wrote:
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AGSzabo wrote:
i expect to get my amigaone or such for free this way.


Some ppl are really crazy  :crazy:

is this from heat? :lol:


It must be, otherwise the team would have a HUGE list of people wanting to become a betatester.

But then again, this statement was a good laugh :lol:
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: AGSzabo on June 15, 2006, 07:24:07 PM
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adolescent wrote:
http://os4.hyperion-entertainment.biz/

Keep in mind that most of the current beta testers paid thousands of dollars for the priviledge.  :crazy:

money shall not be a problem. if its the only way to pay then i'll pay. there are quite a lot of interesting boards in production. no rumours but facts! everybody wants to have an amigaone compatible mainboard!
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: on June 15, 2006, 07:38:53 PM
Hello DrHirudo, long time no see.
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: humppa on June 15, 2006, 07:40:44 PM
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Hello DrHirudo, long time no see.


 :-?
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: AGSzabo on June 15, 2006, 07:43:17 PM
i wrote to hyperion that i would even pay for the privilege to become a betatester for os 4. lets see the response. :idea:
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: AmigaMance on June 15, 2006, 08:23:36 PM
 And why do you have to be a A1 owner to become beta-tester? There is a beta version for the classic Amigas.
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: AGSzabo on June 15, 2006, 08:32:47 PM
i wasn't aware that there is 4.0 for classic amigas. you mean an a4000 with ppcboard, dont you? ok, it may be classic amiga hardware as well. that depends on the needs of the establishment. if they want me to be a tester for amigaone, i will do this. if they want me as a tester for classic hardware, ill do that. its easy. :-)
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: Matt_H on June 15, 2006, 08:33:18 PM
At any rate, all this is irrelevant since the beta program is closed. As far as I'm aware, at this point you can only be invited to become a betatester if you make extraordinary contributions in developing software.
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: AGSzabo on June 16, 2006, 06:51:54 AM
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... you can only be invited to become a betatester if you make extraordinary contributions in developing software.
dont i need the hardware and os first in order to contribute something to it?
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: Matt_H on June 16, 2006, 07:05:18 AM
Yes, or you could cross-compile (http://www.zerohero.se).
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: AGSzabo on June 16, 2006, 07:52:43 AM
cross compile and send the outputs to someone to test them? no, i want to do the tests by myself, i want to be a betatester. what about porting firefox?
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: CLS2086 on June 16, 2006, 09:18:43 AM
FireFox : no java = no port ...
Maybe KHTML for MorphOS.
You can also do cross compilation with MorphOS and OS4Emu !
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: drHirudo on June 16, 2006, 11:19:23 AM
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nicholas wrote:
Hello DrHirudo, long time no see.

Huh?!?!!!
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: AGSzabo on June 17, 2006, 02:10:11 PM
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B00tDisk wrote:

There are no "amigaones" any longer, and nothing on the horizon to replace them.  Look elsewhere for a hobby.

and what is this: http://www.eyetech.co.uk/search.php?SearchStr=&SearchCat=AMA1

its amigaones for sale!
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: doctorq on June 17, 2006, 02:12:22 PM
Try ordering one, and see how long you will have to wait to get it :-)
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: weirdami on June 17, 2006, 03:21:26 PM
@B00tDisk

Rude.
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: AGSzabo on June 17, 2006, 03:25:42 PM
amiga os 4 and a fitting hardware is the future.
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: Tomas on June 17, 2006, 03:40:44 PM
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B00tDisk wrote:
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AGSzabo wrote:
hi,

to whom shall i write that i wish to become a betatester for os 4 hardware and software? i expect to get my amigaone or such for free this way. even if i cannot become a betatester i would like to know how to contact the developers.


There are no "amigaones" any longer, and nothing on the horizon to replace them.  Look elsewhere for a hobby.

You forgot to mention that there are infact some hardware announced. Who knows if it will be released though...
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: Tomas on June 17, 2006, 03:44:12 PM
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AGSzabo wrote:
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B00tDisk wrote:

There are no "amigaones" any longer, and nothing on the horizon to replace them.  Look elsewhere for a hobby.

and what is this: http://www.eyetech.co.uk/search.php?SearchStr=&SearchCat=AMA1

its amigaones for sale!

Sadly i think the info there is outdated.. Though one can always try  ;-)
The only hardware announced is the the amy05 from troika and the powervixxen from ack.. http://troikang.com/ (http://troikang.com/)
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: AGSzabo on June 17, 2006, 10:26:45 PM
wont the powervixxen be something expansion for a 1200 and not a stand alone board?

http://safir.amigaos.se/article_ack_eng.html
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: Matt_H on June 17, 2006, 11:26:41 PM
Read the article more carefully:

"Accessories that will replace the A1200-motherboard for 'stand alone' functionality."
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: AGSzabo on June 17, 2006, 11:44:46 PM
ok, its a good board and cheap relatively.

Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: Matt_H on June 18, 2006, 02:15:51 AM
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to it. Adam has said more recently that the price will go up to $375 because the graphics are now onboard, but I think it's worth it since it eliminates the need to track down a MiniPCI graphics card.
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: Tomas on June 18, 2006, 02:53:25 AM
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wont the powervixxen be something expansion for a 1200 and not a stand alone board?

I can be used as a expansion board or it can be used as a standalone machine. I believe the main difference is that you get access to the amiga custom chipset when hooking it up to a a1200.
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: tomazkid on June 18, 2006, 03:02:40 AM
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CLS2086 wrote:
FireFox : no java = no port ...
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What's java got to do with Firefox?  :-?

Java can be used as plugin for FF though.
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: irishmike on June 18, 2006, 05:03:53 AM
Just FYI:  I would also like to see FireFox ported to Amiga and actually researched undertaking the process of doing it myself (as Firefox is open source) so I downloaded the code and began looking into it.   While I don't think it would be impossible, It is more effort than I myself want to put into because IIRC you would have to rewrite the graphics routines for the OS because Amiga does not use X-Windows.  I hate the idea of having to find a way to run X ontop of the AmigaOS (like openoffice for Mac has to do).

It is a monster undertaking.  Then of course, once someone decides to do this, they will have to support the offshoot - again I am not prepared for that kind of undertaking.

But It could be done if someone has their heart in it.

Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: tomazkid on June 18, 2006, 07:58:48 AM
@Irishmike

Join the Amizilla team.  :-)
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: AGSzabo on June 18, 2006, 10:19:12 AM
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irishmike wrote:
... would have to rewrite the graphics routines for the OS because Amiga does not use X-Windows.

the windows version of firefox sources does not need X. why not taking that? :idea:
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: Hans_ on June 18, 2006, 02:20:46 PM
@IrishMike

Like Tomazkid said, you could join the Amizilla team. They are making progress and would welcome any developers that are interested. Here (http://amizilla.sourceforge.net/) is their sourceforge page. Also, of interest is the campaign page (http://www.discreetfx.com/AmiZilla.html).

@all
If you're interested in seeing FireFox ported, consider donating on the Amizilla campaign page (http://www.discreetfx.com/AmiZilla.html). It's a mammoth task and the developers need as much encouragement as possible.

Hans
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: Argo on June 18, 2006, 03:50:00 PM
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I hate the idea of having to find a way to run X ontop of the AmigaOS (like openoffice for Mac has to do).


There is an X-windows server for Amiga. OpenOffice.org uses the native GUI now on the Mac.
Title: Re: become an os 4 betatester?
Post by: Hans_ on June 18, 2006, 04:04:02 PM
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Argo wrote:
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I hate the idea of having to find a way to run X ontop of the AmigaOS (like openoffice for Mac has to do).


There is an X-windows server for Amiga. OpenOffice.org uses the native GUI now on the Mac.


And using an X-windows server is a good stepping stone towards a fully native port. It's more than just the GUI that needs to be ported. Using an X-server as an interim allows you to get the rest of the app running natively without having to worry about the GUI. The GUI can then be done later, once the rest of the app works.

Hans