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Title: A2200.. nice article on The Crypt
Post by: ikir on May 03, 2003, 12:20:54 PM
Here you can find a nice article i found on The Crypt website! read it! A2200 was a nice Amiga!!

http://www.thecryptmag.com/Online/29/TheForgottenAmiga.html (http://www.thecryptmag.com/Online/29/TheForgottenAmiga.html)
Title: Re: A2200.. nice article on The Crypt
Post by: Effy on May 13, 2003, 08:11:11 PM
Cool thing !! Never heard of. Shame it hasn't been sold much. But I'm still confused, has it got only one Zorro2 slot, 4 pc slots, one cpu slot and one pc card slot ?? What about those 4 pc slots ? What about drivers ??
Title: Re: A2200.. nice article on The Crypt
Post by: Radfoo on May 13, 2003, 08:37:30 PM
It would be intersting to see inside one. It could just be an expanded A1200 or maybe even an A4K with a different busboard.

Though it would be really cool if it was a completly new motherboard design :-)
Title: Re: A2200.. nice article on The Crypt
Post by: Floid on May 13, 2003, 08:40:26 PM
I almost got one of these, back in the day.  Probably should've.

As far as I can recall, rumor had/still has that these were Commodore prototypes (something like the A3000jr, or one of the other mystery machines?  I'm just pulling a model guess out of my posterior, knowing I'm almost certain to be wrong), and had the risk of shipping with buggy/prerelease ROMs, or other such issues?  That's what I was told, and I wound up with a 2000 instead- whose 2090 kept me occupied for months until I determined it wouldn't A.  By the time I scrounged a 2091, I was caught up in school, and the last of the local scene had fallen apart... while tech-support for friends, relatives, and myself (trying to assemble a killer x86 for OS/2, which became a 4-year saga) took over what little 'hacking time' I had.

If I remember properly, these were around about one year before I was able to convince the folks to spring for an ISP (and many others were probably in a similar situation, or waiting to justify the cost to themselves)... so if they *were* an independent product, it was just that little bit too early for folk to look them up online and find out.
Title: Re: A2200.. nice article on The Crypt
Post by: MikesterBrau on May 13, 2003, 10:19:02 PM
  As I recall some of the prototype boards sold on Ebay a few months back through Censitble Software.
I always wanted a Pizza box style Amiga with a flicker fixer/scan doubler and EC 030/40Mzh and an HD or LS-120 disk drive and used to bug my Commodore rep and a few C= reps about having that in the early 90's not knowing they would soon be out of business.  Of course the LS-120 was being called the SuperDisk at 3M/Imation at that time and was not really public knowledge and David Haynie was trying to transition the Amiga to commodity parts at that time.  I also desparately wanted the sound functions separated from the old Paula design (forgot which custom chip did this in AGA) to improve serial performance.  The 2200 was an answer to several things I dreamed of for the Amiga and when I tried to look in to it, people told me it was a bunch of Commodore Canada folks who had broken off and gone on their own knowing that C= was doomed to go under with no hope of recovery.  Ok, that is my bit...
 :-o

   Oh yeah, like many die hard Amiga fans at the time I was very close to putting money down and so glad I did n't.
Title: Re: A2200.. nice article on The Crypt
Post by: amigamad on May 14, 2003, 12:09:23 AM
Sounds like a great machine doubt ill ever find one of these on ebay.
Title: Re: A2200.. nice article on The Crypt
Post by: AmiNTT on May 14, 2003, 12:25:13 AM
You know, I remember that ad from many moons ago.

Neat.
Title: Re: A2200.. nice article on The Crypt
Post by: Ilwrath on May 14, 2003, 06:03:16 AM
Hmm... Pretty incredible...  I never thought that the A2200 was ever produced.  (Vaporware, I thought)

I've never seen one.  Anyone care to grab a snap of the guts of it??  I'd be really interested to see what's going on under the hood!

I'd have to guess that it was a prototype, as I understand that there never was a C= blessed 3.1 ROM.  I think C= corporate went under when the ROM was in beta, and US offices closed, but Canada and Europe went off on their own and started dumping strange stuff out.  That was how the 3.1 ROM filtered out to the public.  I wonder if the A2200 came from the chaos of C= closing shop or an opportunistic 3rd party company that was in on the bidding for Amiga scraps...  Unique machine.  Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: A2200.. nice article on The Crypt
Post by: Damion on May 14, 2003, 08:12:14 AM
I still have an old Amiga World laying around with that very ad in it...I wonder how many were
actually sold? If I remember correctly, Computer
Answers went down shortly after that ad was run.
Title: Re: A2200.. nice article on The Crypt
Post by: Effy on May 14, 2003, 06:14:54 PM
Checked Ebay yesterday and worldwide there isn't any Amiga 2200 in auction ...
Title: Re: A2200.. nice article on The Crypt
Post by: N7VQM on May 14, 2003, 07:21:23 PM
Would someone be so kind as to post the IP address of thecryptmag.com server?  I can't get a route to thier name server.
Title: Re: A2200.. nice article on The Crypt
Post by: alx on May 14, 2003, 07:50:16 PM
209.63.57.10 ?
Title: Re: A2200.. nice article on The Crypt
Post by: on May 14, 2003, 07:54:26 PM
I would pay good money for one of these beasts! Contender for best Ami produced along side the A3000.
Title: Re: A2200.. nice article on The Crypt
Post by: seer on May 14, 2003, 08:30:09 PM
More A2200 (http://amiga.emugaming.com/prototypes/a2200.html)

Seems like a bit of some contradiction here ? It's based on the A1000Jr project, that was ECS based (AGA was allread released IIRC) but the advert mentiones it has AGA... Still, the ad souns more like a stock 1200 with a custom busboard, not an official offering from C=..

I know Dave Haynie visited a-org now and then, maybe he can give some info on this ?

Title: Re: A2200.. nice article on The Crypt
Post by: N7VQM on May 14, 2003, 08:54:58 PM
Quote

alx wrote:
209.63.57.10 ?


Still no joy.   :-(
Title: Re: A2200.. nice article on The Crypt
Post by: Calen on May 14, 2003, 09:07:56 PM
I had heard of one of these way back but didnt know much about it and thought it was just a rumor.
Alot of rumors where floating around at this time so it just sounded like another.

Very  Intereresting article.
Title: Re: A2200.. nice article on The Crypt
Post by: Damion on May 14, 2003, 10:10:24 PM
@seer

I'm pretty sure it was a custom setup...and not
an official C= product.
Title: Re: A2200.. nice article on The Crypt
Post by: MikesterBrau on May 14, 2003, 11:17:54 PM
  Well, I can say that KS 3.1 was completed for CD32, some Amiga 1200's, and of course the handfull of 4000T's made by Commodore (pre Escom).  The A2200's were sold basically as developer boards only and not as fully working units well after C='s demise.   :-D
Title: Re: A2200.. nice article on The Crypt
Post by: MikesterBrau on May 14, 2003, 11:26:36 PM
  It was definately not an official C= product at all, to the best of my knowledge the 2200 was not based on any official C= product but did draw alot from the A1400 proposal, but David H. never had any hand in this product.  Now, in the Escom era we did see that Walker project that did provide some of the features of the 2000 sans case style, and it had the never publicly released Kickstart 3.2 which was 3.1 in 1 1mb rom rather than 2 512k plus better cdfs and IDE handling as well as a fix for ffs to support larger hd partitions, some other minor fixes such as improved Setpatch and support for a new custom chip whose name escapes me right now was included as well..  Outside of the asthetics of the case I was really hoping that an Amiga with Walker specs. would come out.  Well, hope and wishfull thinking is the daily bread of we few proud Amiga owners.   :-D