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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: stianstr on June 04, 2006, 10:30:59 PM

Title: Pegasos replacement for my MicroA1
Post by: stianstr on June 04, 2006, 10:30:59 PM
Since my MicroA1 died after just 3 days (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22590) I've been searching for a replacement to be used for Amiga development and I'm now considering to buy a Pegasos G3 600MHz.

I want to start porting my 3D FPS game NoLife (http://www.codeinvaders.com/nolife/nolife_gui_001.jpg) using TinyGL and wonder if this pegasos with a 7500 will work with 3D stuff?

The plan is to use GCC with TinyGL which should make the game easily portable to AmigaOS4 when/if I can get my hands on some new OS4 compatible hw.
Title: Re: Pegasos replacement for my MicroA1
Post by: on June 04, 2006, 10:41:11 PM
Surely you can get your A1 replaced under the warranty terms?
Title: Re: Pegasos replacement for my MicroA1
Post by: c64_d0c on June 04, 2006, 10:53:56 PM
here is a link for you http://www.pegasos.com.au/ the only new amiga that you can buy...

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Title: Re: Pegasos replacement for my MicroA1
Post by: Savan on June 04, 2006, 11:30:27 PM
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Surely you can get your A1 replaced under the warranty terms?


"I bought it used on a web auction."

Thanks to the wonderful trio they (might) have lost an OS4 user/potential developer to the competition.

Well done Amiga Inc and Hyperion, you bunch of muppets really do know how to run a buisness :roll:
Title: Re: Pegasos replacement for my MicroA1
Post by: on June 04, 2006, 11:35:05 PM
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Savan wrote:
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Surely you can get your A1 replaced under the warranty terms?


"I bought it used on a web auction."



So?

A statutory warranty is still valid on second hand goods.
Title: Re: Pegasos replacement for my MicroA1
Post by: Savan on June 04, 2006, 11:54:19 PM
Only OP can answer that, but Amiga hardware and warranties are usually non existant :lol:
Title: Re: Pegasos replacement for my MicroA1
Post by: Crumb on June 04, 2006, 11:57:05 PM
@stianstr

It will work quite well, A Radeon7500 is the best card you can use in a Peg1. TinyGL is enough to run Quake3 and Blender so I guess it will be enough for your game :-)
Title: Re: Pegasos replacement for my MicroA1
Post by: stianstr on June 05, 2006, 02:29:12 AM
Sounds good. I have a potential peg in sight. :)
Title: Re: Pegasos replacement for my MicroA1
Post by: FrankBrana on June 05, 2006, 10:56:53 AM
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Savan wrote:
Well done Amiga Inc and Hyperion, you bunch of muppets really do know how to run a buisness :roll:


Since when Hyperion has to honour the warranty terms which belongs to Eyetech? AFAIK there are two different companies with differents products and targets. As usual Hyperion gets flamed freely.

Anyway, Pegasos is a good machine and the only amigaish thing you can buy ATM. ( The support from Genesi, the hardware manufacturer and nothign to do with software,to the final user its damn fine good, in all ways )
Title: Re: Pegasos replacement for my MicroA1
Post by: pVC on June 05, 2006, 11:04:33 AM
stianstr:

http://3d.morphos-team.net/

As said, Radeon 7500 is the best for Peg1 and Radeon 9000 or 9100 is probably the best for Peg2.
Title: Re: Pegasos replacement for my MicroA1
Post by: Kronos on June 05, 2006, 11:54:42 AM
@FrankBrana

The problem doesn't seem to be warranty (which has allways been non-existant for A1 anyways) but the lack of available hardware that could run OS4 which "forces" stianstr to go for the competition ....
Title: Re: Pegasos replacement for my MicroA1
Post by: Savan on June 05, 2006, 12:46:13 PM
@FrankBrana

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As usual Hyperion gets flamed freely.


Flamed because they are also part of the problem rather than the solution. They was happy to play monopoly with Ainc and Eyetech but now that it has backfired, everyone should praise and defend them?

It seems people (conveniently?) forgets about the trio`s (Amiga Inc,Eyetech,Hyperion) self made monopoly madness, all three are responsible for what has become of the Amigaone and OS4. No amount of aw.netism will rectify that.

Elbox and their RDB killer code deserves more respect than the trio.
Title: Re: Pegasos replacement for my MicroA1
Post by: stianstr on June 05, 2006, 04:13:38 PM
When it comes to Hyperion I think they have done a great job with OS4. It feels more modern than ever and I enjoyed it the 3 days my MicroA1 worked. The only missing software needed is a descent web browser. The few available is just rubish.

If they didn't have a monopoly when it came to the OS we would have several versions of the AmigaOS and what good would that do us if 20% used that OS and 20% a different OS and so on.

When it comes to HW I don't care about the warranty. I just wish there was available HW for me to buy when it breaks down.

How is hardware availability on new pegasos systems btw?

Title: Re: Pegasos replacement for my MicroA1
Post by: Piru on June 11, 2006, 12:27:38 AM
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A Radeon7500 is the best card you can use in a Peg1.

That just changed with the MorphOS 3D update 2. Pegasos 1 can now use the same cards as Pegasos 2.


read all about it (http://www.morphos-team.net/news.html)
Title: Re: Pegasos replacement for my MicroA1
Post by: Tomas on June 11, 2006, 12:40:56 AM
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Well done Amiga Inc and Hyperion, you bunch of muppets really do know how to run a buisness

What has hyperion to do with his hardware dying?? I can understand why you blame amiga inc and eyetech for us having no hardware, but why hyperion? They are only porting the OS and cannot legally port it to another platform without getting permission from the {bleep}es at amiga inc.
Title: Re: Pegasos replacement for my MicroA1
Post by: bhoggett on June 11, 2006, 01:19:44 AM
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Tomas wrote:
What has hyperion to do with his hardware dying?? I can understand why you blame amiga inc and eyetech for us having no hardware, but why hyperion?

Hyperion were an integral party to deciding the overall strategy under which things would move forward. PPC, monopoly arrangements, licensing, etc.

They are as much responsible for the current situation - albeit indirectly - as Amiga Inc and Eyetech are.

The situation is a bad one and everyone is responsible, including the users who were so desperate for a new AmigaOS that they were willing to buy anything put in front of them regardless of quality or price. Thus a strategy which was bound to fail was embarked upon.

As for warranties, it's no longer a question of them being valid or people's statutory rights. You can't replace kit if no replacement kit exists.

The only realistic option is to write it off as a bad experience and move on.
Title: Re: Pegasos replacement for my MicroA1
Post by: KThunder on June 11, 2006, 01:48:10 AM
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Savan wrote:
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Surely you can get your A1 replaced under the warranty terms?


"I bought it used on a web auction."

Thanks to the wonderful trio they (might) have lost an OS4 user/potential developer to the competition.

Well done Amiga Inc and Hyperion, you bunch of muppets really do know how to run a buisness :roll:


his original statement was about the "trio" losing a developer to the competition not about the "trio" fixing the competitions board. you guys seem to be arguing in different circles.
Title: Re: Pegasos replacement for my MicroA1
Post by: stianstr on June 11, 2006, 07:10:28 AM
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Savan wrote:
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Surely you can get your A1 replaced under the warranty terms?


"I bought it used on a web auction."

Thanks to the wonderful trio they (might) have lost an OS4 user/potential developer to the competition.



They haven't lost anything... If there ever will be new hardware available I will buy it...

I might buy a peg while waiting for amiga hw to be available, time will tell... :)

I wish they could just port AmigaOS to x86 and be done with it. We would never have HW problems again as long as the OS was in continueues development...

How the heck do you write continueueueueues :)
Title: Re: Pegasos replacement for my MicroA1
Post by: stianstr on June 11, 2006, 07:13:33 AM
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Piru wrote:
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A Radeon7500 is the best card you can use in a Peg1.

That just changed with the MorphOS 3D update 2. Pegasos 1 can now use the same cards as Pegasos 2.
read all about it (http://www.morphos-team.net/news.html)


Thanks for the info Piru :)
Title: Re: Pegasos replacement for my MicroA1
Post by: Homer on June 11, 2006, 08:11:11 AM
stianstr-
Continuous ! :banana:  :banana:  :banana:  :banana: