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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: keropi on May 29, 2006, 09:58:13 PM

Title: Full pc's on ISA / PCI cards.... (for industrial usage???) where to find 'em?
Post by: keropi on May 29, 2006, 09:58:13 PM
Once I have found on ebay a seller that had full pc's but on a isa or pci card... you know, something like the A2286AT , A2386SX cards, but with ram, p3's , vga etc all included on a card, and only drawing power from the host...! does anyone know how are they called so I can search them again??? I wanna add a pci one on my g-rex... :crazy:  :crazy:
Title: Re: Full pc's on ISA / PCI cards.... (for industrial usage???) where to find 'em?
Post by: CLS2086 on May 29, 2006, 10:04:43 PM
Hi
I remind of a board called Portland
Title: Re: Full pc's on ISA / PCI cards.... (for industrial usage???) where to find 'em?
Post by: InTheSand on May 29, 2006, 10:37:55 PM
Google is your friend!

Something like these? (http://www.acrosser.com/Product/Full%20or%20Half%20size%20PC/PCI%20SBC/PCI%20SBC_AR1841.html)

 - Ali
Title: Re: Full pc's on ISA / PCI cards.... (for industrial usage???) where to find 'em?
Post by: JimS on May 29, 2006, 11:25:28 PM
Try "single board computer".

Last summer I found an ad on 'freecycle' where a guy wanted to clear out his garage. I got a rack-mount server, mainly because I thought it would have a pile of hard drives in it. Turned out it had two of the boards you mentioned, both Pentium 233s with both PCI and ISA. VGA and all onboard. :-)
I've been tempted to try it in a spare 2000.

The CD-writer/DVD Rom combo drive I got from him was more usefull. :-)
 


Title: Re: Full pc's on ISA / PCI cards.... (for industrial usage???) where to find 'em?
Post by: Cyberus on May 30, 2006, 06:22:21 PM
I looked at this a couple of years ago. Some quite high spec SBCs turn up on ebay from time to time...
Title: Re: Full pc's on ISA / PCI cards.... (for industrial usage???) where to find 'em?
Post by: motorollin on May 30, 2006, 06:40:20 PM
They look cool! You could put one inside an Amiga case, connect its LAN port to your network, and then use VNC/Remote Desktop to control it from the Amiga side :-)

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moto
Title: Re: Full pc's on ISA / PCI cards.... (for industrial usage???) where to find 'em?
Post by: motorollin on May 30, 2006, 06:58:18 PM
Can you get PCI Single Board Computers with WiFi built in? I've searched but can't find one.

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moto
Title: Re: Full pc's on ISA / PCI cards.... (for industrial usage???) where to find 'em?
Post by: bloodline on May 30, 2006, 07:01:16 PM
Quote

motorollin wrote:
Can you get PCI Single Board Computers with WiFi built in? I've searched but can't find one.

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moto


Not sure if I'm on topic, but check out:

http://www.gumstix.com/
Title: Re: Full pc's on ISA / PCI cards.... (for industrial usage???) where to find 'em?
Post by: keropi on May 30, 2006, 07:26:00 PM
it seems that pci only sbc's do not exist? or are too expensive? haven't found one on ebay, only some combo pci/isa ones, and I bet that they are not using standar slots... also none has a soundcard, quite useless on industrial usage...
Title: Re: Full pc's on ISA / PCI cards.... (for industrial usage???) where to find 'em?
Post by: motorollin on May 30, 2006, 07:31:24 PM
This (http://www.getmis.com/catalog/single-board-computers/half-size-sbc/p_sbc-5643.html) seems to be a standard PCI port...

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moto
Title: Re: Full pc's on ISA / PCI cards.... (for industrial usage???) where to find 'em?
Post by: Demonlord on May 30, 2006, 07:43:40 PM
Some call these cards CPU Bridgeport cards or CPU Bus cards or Server bus board cards
Title: Re: Full pc's on ISA / PCI cards.... (for industrial usage???) where to find 'em?
Post by: Chain on May 31, 2006, 01:50:57 PM
http://www.impulse-corp.co.uk/industrialcomputerboards.htm
Title: Re: Full pc's on ISA / PCI cards.... (for industrial usage???) where to find 'em?
Post by: Oli_hd on May 31, 2006, 02:25:41 PM
I got given two P2 ISA SBC's and two free standing 486 SBC's.
I was going to stick one in my A4000 but the darn thing uses SO-DIMM's and just as I get the boards I lose my one SO-DIMM, go figure. :-)

Im thinking if Im not using them by the end of july they are going on to AmiRevival with a price tag. :-)
Title: Re: Full pc's on ISA / PCI cards.... (for industrial usage???) where to find 'em?
Post by: adolescent on May 31, 2006, 03:25:58 PM
Why not just pop a new Nano-ITX in the case somewhere.  Small (12cm x 12cm total), low power consuption, good performance, and innexpensive...
Title: Re: Full pc's on ISA / PCI cards.... (for industrial usage???) where to find 'em?
Post by: cv643d on June 04, 2006, 11:14:37 PM
Innexpensive?  :lol:
Title: Re: Full pc's on ISA / PCI cards.... (for industrial usage???) where to find 'em?
Post by: adolescent on June 06, 2006, 04:07:46 PM
Quote

cv643d wrote:
Innexpensive?  :lol:


Compared to a SBC?  Yes. :-P
Title: Re: Full pc's on ISA / PCI cards.... (for industrial usage???) where to find 'em?
Post by: Doppie1200 on June 06, 2006, 08:38:29 PM
I have an 486@133Mhz on a ISA card. It is a full computer with RAM VGA IDE Serial, Parallel, LAN all on a card. But DO NOT PLUG IT INTO YOUR AMIGA!!!!

These devices might look ISA or PCI cards but they are actually the opposite. They DRIVE the bus. So you're in for some trouble putting it into a slot that is already driven. Basically you should plug these cards into dumb bussboards so you can use other cards the device can drive.

Title: Re: Full pc's on ISA / PCI cards.... (for industrial usage???) where to find 'em?
Post by: keropi on June 06, 2006, 09:39:23 PM
oh thanx for the info, but I abandonned the idea when after searching I realised no sbc has a soundcard, lol
Title: Re: Full pc's on ISA / PCI cards.... (for industrial usage???) where to find 'em?
Post by: KThunder on June 06, 2006, 11:44:39 PM
Quote

Doppie1200 wrote:
I have an 486@133Mhz on a ISA card. It is a full computer with RAM VGA IDE Serial, Parallel, LAN all on a card. But DO NOT PLUG IT INTO YOUR AMIGA!!!!

These devices might look ISA or PCI cards but they are actually the opposite. They DRIVE the bus. So you're in for some trouble putting it into a slot that is already driven. Basically you should plug these cards into dumb bussboards so you can use other cards the device can drive.



amigas isa slots are a dumb busboards. so they should be ok but mediator and g-rex boards are not they would need a sbc capable of bus nagotiation and mastering.
Title: Re: Full pc's on ISA / PCI cards.... (for industrial usage???) where to find 'em?
Post by: asian1 on June 07, 2006, 03:45:26 AM
Perhaps you can use PowerLeap Renaissance with 1 GHz P3 or Omnicluster / 14 South SlotServer (700 MHz P3).

Unfortunately both cards are no longer available from the vendors.

http://www.powerleap.ca/Support.htm

http://www.businesswire.com/webbox/bw.040401/210940549.htm