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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Helgis75 on April 30, 2003, 11:03:13 PM
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I really think that Eyetech should hurry up getting rest of the A1XEs and ship them as fast as a bullet! I'm sick of the long wait! I want my A1G4XE NOW, that damn it!!! :madashell: :madashell: :madashell:
Eyetech, you hear me?! NO MORE WAITING! GET THE REST OF THE BOARDS NOW AND SHIP THEM OUT IMMEDIATELY! I will send thousands of mail to push you forward! When i get my board, THEN i will be happy! :madashell: :madashell: :madashell: :angry: :ak47: :getmad: :destroy: :destroy: :flame: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed:
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Oh my flaming goodness. Woah. Wow. Like Yeah.
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Eyetech, you hear me?! NO MORE WAITING! GET THE REST OF THE BOARDS NOW AND SHIP THEM OUT IMMEDIATELY! I
I take it your angry? :-D
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@Helgis75
What is wrong with you? you remind me of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde :roflmao:
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Paul_Gadd wrote:
@Helgis75
What is wrong with you? you remind me of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde :roflmao:
What do you expect me to feel? I have been waiting for so long...and if i can push them, then i will...I hate waiting...They have spent enough too much time already...I give them one more month, and THAT IT IS!!!
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Lots of other people are waiting too;-)
At least you have not ordered direct from Eyetech, apparently we will be the last to receive the boards from the current batch :-?
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What do you expect me to feel?
Pissed off, you must remember that you are not dealing with professionals but mere amateurs.
I really hope those bunch of amateurs send you your A1 as people like you deserve it.
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Never mind how we ordered the board. Most of us ordered them before Christmas. I want my board NOW! What's the f*** is wrong?!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil:
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Helgis75 wrote:
Never mind how we ordered the board. Most of us ordered them before Christmas. I want my board NOW! What's the f*** is wrong?!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil:
Light weight! :roflmao: I waited 9 months before I canceled my A1 order, and you are complaining after 4months? ;-)
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@Helgis:
I really think that Eyetech should hurry up getting rest of the A1XEs and ship them as fast as a bullet!
I really think you need to grow up. Or get a life. Or maybe both.
I'm sorry, I know that sounds harsh, but you would do me a biiiig favour if you would stop posting A1-related threads until you recieved your A1 or you canceled your order.
I will send thousands of mail to push you forward!
That's a good idea. Probably Eyetech just forgot about the A1 and "thousands of mails" might help to remind them about the outstanding orders.
When i get my board, THEN i will be happy!
Why? Because you can install Linux on it? You can already install Linux on your current machine, you know.
Will you start five or six "HYPERION NEEDS TO SPEED UP, OR I'LL GET A HEART ATTACK AFTER TORTURING EVERYBODY IN MY VICINITY WITH COUNTLESS INQUIRIES ABOUT THE STATUS OF OS4" threads once your A1 arrived and you're waiting for OS4?
Spend some time with your girlfriend, play some games on your current computer, watch TV or do whatever you do to relax. Don't think about the A1 (cancel your order if that helps) and wait until the A1/OS4 combo is available from your local dealer.
And always keep in mind that Eyetech don't "owe" you anything. If Alan decides to scrap the whole project tomorrow, he has lost a lot of money, while you just lost a girl friend (or whoever else has to endure your constant hysterical ups and downs).
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@Helgis
Have you paid for this machine already?
If so I can understand you may be a bit impatient - but if it's not built, it's not built.
Last year my wife parted with a significant amount of money to buy my Christmas/Anniversary/Birthday present.
She wanted to buy me 'the last motorcycle I will ever ride' - She wanted it to be ready for Xmas - but due to problems beyond anyones control it wasn't ready.
New Years came and it still wasn't ready - our anniversary came and still not ready.
My Birthday was at the beginning of this month, and you can guess.... it wasn't ready.
As a special treat though she told me about it and and put me on a plane to L.A. to meet with the guy building it so I could get a guided tour of his shop (which was a big enough present by itself!) and see what will eventually be my own chopper.
Sometimes things take time - thats all there is to it.
And if you haven't paid for it yet -- well what can I say? Quit ya b*tching.
Siggy.
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@Helgis
C'mon, you still have not recieved your board? Weeks ago it was allready on it's way. Poor you.
Coder
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Hi,
Just a few words to say that I got my board (A1 XE-G4) yesterday. :)
So be patient, I'm sure that Eyetech and all related dealers are doing their best to deliver boards as soon as possible.
However, I should add that I've ordered directly from Eyetech in May/June 2002.
Hope this helps to wait for your boards ;)
Tcho,
Glames / Boing Attitude :)
:-)
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@ Glames:
;-) Welcome to Amiga.org!
:pint: Have one on the house!
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Helgis75 wrote:
I really think that Eyetech should hurry up getting rest of the A1XEs and ship them as fast as a bullet! I'm sick of the long wait! I want my A1G4XE NOW, that damn it!!! :madashell: :madashell: :madashell:
Eyetech, you hear me?! NO MORE WAITING! GET THE REST OF THE BOARDS NOW AND SHIP THEM OUT IMMEDIATELY!
How do you think we feel in the UK, we appear to be last on the list even though we live in the same country, I'm an hour drive away, so theoretically I could easily go and pick one up.
Dealers first and People who ordered a board before NOV 1st 2002 are first on the list.
So UK people have got to wait until everybody else in the world has got theirs first.
Eyetech you are taking the P!$$ now!!!!
"...We expect to get the backlog cleared by the end of the month, but only if people avoid the temptation to ring up and ask....."
Well i did resist the temptation and i still have not got the thing. End of the month has gone.
This has now been superseeded with the several batches approx 2 weeks appart statement.
So one day they are saying you'll have them by the end of april, now they are saying they ain't got a clue when you'll get it, basically.
So, depending on where you appear on their list thats any time before now and end of july.
What about people who are going away on holiday during may, june and july and can't make arrangements for it to be delivered else where ?
Its either going to go missing or end up back at Eyetech, after bouncing around in the back of a transit for a fortnight, undeliverable.
NOV 1st its now May 1st
6 Months Alan...... How much longer ? People like to manage their finances, How do you expect people to keep large amounts of funds in the bank, not knowing if its gong to be taken or not. Better not dip into that just incase Alan takes the money for my Amiga-1 this week....... Yeah right.
Sort it out and Sort it out now ALAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And if you haven't paid for it yet -- well what can I say? Quit ya b*tching.
Siggy.
It does not matter if he has paid for it or not by having your payment details, debit / credit card details, you have made a commitment to pay and therefore entered into a contract for goods or services. You are subject to the same protection by consumer rights.
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Golly, Eyetech's A1 is beginning to sound a bit like the BoXeR fiasco...
I feel really bad for those who've pre-ordered and waited for months.
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Didn't Eyetech claim a few weeks ago that all boards ordered (+ more)
had been built and tested ? WTF is stopping them ?
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What's the point in getting the board now when it's sth like AmigaONEUX (remember A3000UX?;)? I'm sure Eyetech will have a full stock of boards when OS4 comes out.
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Why not just buy this AmigaONE amiga.org post (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2248) ?
By the way, what CD-ROM software is bundled with the AmigaONE, for those who got it. Is Amiga Forever or any UAEamiga emulator included? What operating system is included (obviously Linux, but what distro?) ?
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I will send thousands of mail to push you forward!
DO NOT DO THAT!
Mail bombing someone's email box is rude and unthoughtful.
Do you think that they would actually WANT to sell you a board after all that? I guess if they needed another sale..
However, you would be considered a nuisance, not a genuine customer.
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Quit the useless nagging people!
Eyetech allready said that they can't send more then 40 to 50 a day because they are testing them again in England.
So the boards are comming. You can't do more than you can do.
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I will send thousands of mail to push you forward! When i get my board, THEN i will be happy!
What do you want them to spend their time doing? Wading through your pointless emails or shipping AmigaONEs?
Just relax! Take your medication, relax, and don't worry about it. Good things come to those who wait
;-)
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Eyetech allready said that they can't send more then 40 to 50 a day because they are testing them again in England
Testing in Taiwan, then again in England? There's a need to test them TWICE????????
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Darth_X wrote:
Testing in Taiwan, then again in England? There's a need to test them TWICE????????
Well.. when I asked from Eyetech about Aone in almost year ago. It was then confirmed to be fully tested, fully functional and ready to mass market.
Now, year later.. I belive they have learned a lot about product testing ;-)
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Testing in Taiwan, then again in England? There's a need to test them TWICE????????
AFAIK they do a burn-in test in Taiwan.
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>Didn't Eyetech claim a few weeks ago that all
>boards ordered (+ more) had been built and
>tested ? WTF is stopping them ?
Alan announced that they will again test them and
will send out small batches (of the already produced
boards) every two weeks. Someone at
amigaworld.net spoke about "End of July" for every
board to be sent out of this first batch. Don't know
where that info comes from though.
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Dealers first and People who ordered a board before NOV 1st 2002 are first on the list.
Eyetech you are taking the P!$$ now!!!!
This is ridiculous. This seems perfectly fair - whoever ordered them first gets them first. You think you deserve special treatment because you live close to Eyetech?
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Hi Quixote,
Quixote wrote:
@ Glames:
;-) Welcome to Amiga.org!
:pint: Have one on the house!
Many thanks!
Tcho,
Glames / Boing Attitude :)
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Testing in Taiwan, then again in England? There's a need to test them TWICE????????
Have you ever seen what shipment can do to a piece of hardware? :-)
Honestly, consider it a good service that they test it again.
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Cluke wrote:
Dealers first and People who ordered a board before NOV 1st 2002 are first on the list.
Eyetech you are taking the P!$$ now!!!!
This is ridiculous. This seems perfectly fair - whoever ordered them first gets them first. You think you deserve special treatment because you live close to Eyetech?
No I dont think I should get special treatment and I agree this should be done by order date. So if someone in Sweden ordered on on the 3rd of March from their local dealer then they should get theirs after those who ordered in the UK from Eyetech (local delaer) back in November, However its not working like that is it!!!! Eyetech are not shipping to people in the UK. They are our local dealer as Alan once stated they are two seperate divisions, manufacturing and sales.
The point i was making.
Eyetech (sales) is my local dealer.
GGS is the Dealer for people in Sweden.
Soft3 in italy etc. etc.
People order from their local dealer.
Its great news they are shipping but Eyetech have to remember that they are also the local dealer for the people in the UK. They are sending boards to all the other dealers, so they can pass them on to their cutomers, but are neglecting their dealership commitment to UK customers.
That is the point i'm putting accross.
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How it was.. lemme think now... something like: "there are now three times more AmigaOnes shipped than Pegasos-systems"
Sorry to hear you're not one of those 1800 owners :-D
Would be nice to know where these figures came.. prolly from a person with a very imaginative mind
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@Rogue:
Bah, don't even try. Some people are just not willing to use their frelling brains.
Everyone:
I bet Helgis would be REALLY happy if Eyetech sold him a board which had been destroyed during shipping, right? Gee.
Now quit your yapping and enjoy life or something. If Helgis had been smart enough not to order an AmigaOne from someone who doesn't even have a dealership with Eyetech, he would be in a much stronger bargaining position. Also, he could have signed up at my new mailing list (for users in the nordic countries), but he has chosen not to, so he's not going to see what goes on. ;-)
Oh, and about A1 having sold 3 times as many as Peg...
Well, I don't think so. But we're talking one HUGE lot of orders which has not yet been billed/shipped. I think it's safe to say the number of orders are at least twice that of the Pegasos sales figure you seem to be stating as fact (600?)
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@Olegil
600 is the number of betatesterboards I've been told and seen. Can't be much off truth as I remember 200-250 boards being out before the recent 400+ shipped.
Naturally I can't say anything as a 100% fact.
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According to Alan, they are receiving another batch of boards tomorrow (Friday 2nd).
They are testing them in the UK as well so they are absolutely sure that they work. How annoyed would you be if you received for A1 after waiting ages only to find it didn't work.
What is annoying is that Eyetech can't even tell you how far down the line you are which they should be able to work out from the order number.
I sympathise with people waiting (like me) but look on the bright side. If Eyetech are currently rushed off their feet shipping boards then it must mean the demand and therefore the number of sales of the A1 will be relatively high. This can only be A Good Thing TM.
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olegil wrote:
@Rogue:
Bah, don't even try. Some people are just not willing to use their frelling brains.
Everyone:
I bet Helgis would be REALLY happy if Eyetech sold him a board which had been destroyed during shipping, right? Gee.
No of course not. Nothing bad in securing the quality.
Hmm, to be absolutely sure, Eyetech should perhaps test the board once again after the sipment to GGS data in Sweden, and then once again when datakompaniet in Norway recieves it? :-P :-D
Oh, and about A1 having sold 3 times as many as Peg...
Well, I don't think so. But we're talking one HUGE lot of orders which has not yet been billed/shipped. I think it's safe to say the number of orders are at least twice that of the Pegasos sales figure you seem to be stating as fact (600?)
Yet we don't know anything about the actual demand/backlog orders for the Pegasos, only that 600 were sold, they were sold fast, and the demand is still bigger than that.
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I will get it straight, to some of you criticing me as a person. The point is not about growing up or getting a life. I am both of that. The point is to speed things up bringing out the boards to everyone, and what's wrong with running Linux? Many people seem more than satificed enough to run Linux, MOL and UAE all in Linux, so why not? But of course, the ultimate experience will be AmigaOS 4.0..
I'm more or less happy that Eyetech tests the boards very carefully, and that i have no choice but to keep waiting. I have been waiting since before Christmas, and i was complaining most of the time..
I'm not so sure how Datakompaniet is doing the job, well or poor. They seem to have managed getting their first 4 boards stuck somewhere in Norway, so they haven't received them yet, yet they were sent 14th of April from Gunne...That should explain a lot...
Sending thousands of mail to destroy Eyetech. No, that's not the point, but it could help them bring up to a better solution...You never know really. Words are the most powerful weapon; a powerful ally...When used right, it could force people to bring up the best solution to satisfy all..That's all i would like to say..
When i get the board finally, then i'm satisfied...Remember to read between the lines before you start complaining about me..
The case is closed...
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I see some people have waited about a year.
Wow, I haven't even placed an order. I want the G4 version, but if it's going to take 4-6 months for delivery I am not sure if it's worth ordering.
I have the funds, but I think I'll wait a while until the turn-a-round time is more like 3-4 weeks.
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At least you have not ordered direct from Eyetech, apparently we will be the last to receive the boards from the current batch
peple in england have to wiat longer very nice of them ive been waiting 7 months now :-(
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Helgis,
I hate waiting
I'm patient. I'm still going to get mine in the coming weeks, but I won't be able to play with it until 1) I get a new monitor, and 2) I get AmigaOS 4.0 running on it. I'd use my current A4kT's monitor, but it recently died on me. So I'll sit back and work on my TiBook in the meanwhile. Maybe I'll go out and buy an iPod for my birthday. :-)
AmiGod
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Maybe i need a dose of Demerol or something and fall asleep, waking up when i get my board... :-(
Well, anyway. I must try to focus my mind on something else for a while...I guess i have no choice but to keep waiting...God, what a pain...
I'll pray to God that everything works out in the end..
Thank you so much for keeping the spirit with me, and feeding me with new powers...You guys are great...You put a smile on my face.. :-)
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Why all this anger now?
I can understand that many were p***ed off at the whole
situation 6 months ago, but now when the A1's are
finally shipping? Ok, shipment is slow, but still, more
and more people are recieving their LONG awaited
machines everyday now. What we should feel right
now is EXCITEMENT not frustration. Things are rolling
and I'm confident that you, Helgis75, will think it's
been worth waiting once you get your piece.
I preordered my A1 autumn 2001 and now I'm sitting
here typing this on my A1XE, and yes, Linux is great!
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I have worked with freight and shipment, I know what can happen to packages :-)
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It came to a great surprise when i got a nice mail from Eyetech, by a sales person named Gina. :-)
She cheered me up and told me that Eyetech are really doing the best to let everybody get their boards, and it's sure worth the wait! :-)
Such a nice, friendly young woman. :-)
A great thank to Gina, the Sales Manager at Eyetech. :-)
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Its not like Eyetech are a large concern. Sheesh .... give them a chance. My dealer told me something like there are three ppl working at Eyetech.
If that is the case - two ppl have to stop work to answer phone and emails. That leaves just one guy to unpack the bulk container.
The fellow who has to keep answering the phone needs some time to arrange OUTWARDS shipping or the boards will just fill up their premises.
(You think you've been waiting a l-o-n-g time? I'm STILL using a '80s era A2000!)
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Helgis75 wrote:
It came to a great surprise when i got a nice mail from Eyetech, by a sales person named Gina. :-)
She cheered me up and told me that Eyetech are really doing the best to let everybody get their boards, and it's sure worth the wait! :-)
Such a nice, friendly young woman. :-)
A great thank to Gina, the Sales Manager at Eyetech. :-)
I too want to talk to Gina :-D .
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I'm sure you want to do something more than talking to Gina:-) A threesome, or what? Bodie? :-) :-D
I too want to talk to Gina :-D .[/quote]
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@Helgis
:lol: :python: :roflmao: :roflmao:
Computers and females it all over!!!!!! :-D
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I'm sure you want to do something more than talking to Gina A threesome, or what? Bodie?
:-o Guys, guys!! For all you know 'Gina' could be Alan Redhouse' great grandmother! :-o
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Have you ever seen what shipment can do to a piece of hardware?
Heh Rogue, I work in a grocery store... You should see the amount of damages we get in the products shipped to us, its crazy! :-D
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Seriously, what is Alans' grandmother supposed to do at the company? Baking cakes to all of the employers? :-D :-? :-P
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Considering Alan is the employer (you were thinking of employee, right? ;-) ), I wouldn't say it was so bad if his grandmother stopped by with some cookies from time to time. He woulda deserved that. But I don't even know if he HAS a grandmother :-)
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Alan definitely got a sexy secretary...hehe..:-) Some love time at Eyetech or what? Well, we won't know..i'm sure..:-)
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Is it worth the wait? Is it really? This is something you can live with? Even if you get it today, the best you'll do is UAE--and, trust me, you can do better.
Amithlon is better and cheaper, even at H&P's $250 price-tag. MorphOS is better, and cheaper. In fact, the A1 is the worst possible choice you can make. People can compare the G3 to the G4 all day long, but it still doesn't cure the fact that the A1 cannot run Amiga applications as fast as my 040 A1200--because it's stuck with the oldest, least updated, and slowest version of UAE possible.
You are only hurting yourself by doing this, as you will soon discover.
A bit more about me, just FYI: I bought Amithlon when it came out, both os3.5 and 3.9, elbox's mediator for my a1200, AmigaForever, and now a pegasos. Because these products have a proven amiga track record. A1 is like the BoXeR though, a pipe dream--with leaks.
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@Helgis75
...Many people seem more than satificed enough to run Linux, MOL and UAE all in Linux...
Some legal info on using MOL on non-Apple HW (from maconlinux.org)
Q:
Does MOL run on non-Apple hardware?
A:
It does. MOL runs for instance on the Pegasos board, the Teron board and on AmigaOne hardware. In short, MOL should run on any PowerPC hardware (with the except of 601-based systems). However, the EULA of MacOS prohibits its usage on non-Apple hardware (it is of course perfectly legal to use MOL to boot a second Linux
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Roll on OS4. Then we'll see which the best choice is.
But for now, sadly, Targhan has a point. :-(
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Is it worth the wait? Is it really? This is something you can live with?
not me, but Im still waiting for any "consumer/pro-sumer" level ppc970 board before I upgrade
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@Targhan
Since you are payed by Genesi and a member of their "family" I think you should watch your words. Comparing the A1 to the BoXeR is clearly an attempt to spread FUD (I have seen enough A1 XE to know that it is shipping).
I understand that you love Genesi and your Pegasos, but why dont you stick to your own (Genesis) products and stop your crusade against Amiga Inc/Hyperion/Eyetech? (MAI article, your Bill McEwen thread, and now this). You can at least _TRY_ to be constructive in your criticism.
/W
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Why don't you nyu a Pegasos?
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@Wittgenstein
Don't sweat it. In the words of Shakespeare, "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." :lol:
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Some people (including myself) cannot realise, or forget, we're dealing with microscopic companies nowadays.
How many people do Amiga Inc., Eyetech or Genesi employ? What are there assets, capital etc These small outfits depend totally on larger companies for the manufacturing, shipping, testing and packaging of their products. And since they're so small, they don't have a lot of control on these processes, more so when things go wrong.
It's not their fault, the sad truth is that the Amiga has shrunk to a diminutive niche market, that larger companies wouldn't bother getting into. However, the internet can alter our perception of such companies. For example, I would expect sterling service when shopping in a huge multi storey shop but be lineant if I entered a small, family run shop. However, on the internet, there's no indication of wether you're dealing with a sizeable company or a tiny outfit.
Subtle hints, like the Genesi top guy attacking every user like a rabid dog, or Amiga Inc's wankers talking endlessly about nothing, might shed light on the true nature of these companies.
This is not a complaint! I am prepared to put up with all of it, since I still use and support my Amigas. Yes, I'm sceptical, like a lot of other people here. But I still have faith in the Amiga community, and I feel we're closer then ever to our goal.
Genesi have delivered a disappointing, half baked product. But Eyetech has come up with the goods, and if Hyperion follow suite, I won't mind waiting for months or paying relativly high prices for my machine. At the end of the day, what counts is having a powerfull, brand new Amiga Computer on my desk!!
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Genesi have delivered a disappointing, half baked product. But Eyetech has come up with the goods, and if Hyperion follow suite, I won't mind waiting for months or paying relativly high prices for my machine. At the end of the day, what counts is having a powerfull, brand new Amiga Computer on my desk!!
LOL! Are you serious here or joking?
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I'm watching the IBM PPC970 closely to see how this plays out.
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@Jethro_Tull
Genesi have delivered a disappointing, half baked product. But Eyetech has come up with the goods, and if Hyperion follow suite, I won't mind waiting for months or paying relativly high prices for my machine. At the end of the day, what counts is having a powerfull, brand new Amiga Computer on my desk!!
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Thanks for the information. Always nice to see helpful people who haven't used Pegasos/MorphOS even one second.
Thanks again. You are ACE!
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@ Dart & Hooligan
oops! Treaded on the Genesi supporter toes!
Did you read the reviews guys? Did you notice the complaints? I haven't endured the pain of using sMurfOS, true, but shouldn't you two shut up until the OS you're trumpeting about works correctly? When the peg. and sMurfOS deliver the goods, I'll consider investing in one, and you two can post happily praising the virtues of sMorfOS, but at the moment, there isn't really anything to get excited about.
You shouldn't never knock down other systems, more so when the one you're defending is choke full of bugs, unstable, runs only a handfull of titles and barely works.
Bye ppl
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In fact, the A1 is the worst possible choice you can make
Are you saying this because you have one and actually know what you are talking about, or are you just guessing?
You're not exactly making your judgement sound credible.
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Hooligan_DCS wrote:
Thanks for the information. Always nice to see helpful people who haven't used Pegasos/MorphOS even one second.
Thanks again. You are ACE!
I am surprised at your sense of justice. I wonder, however, what stopped you from stepping up when Targhan posted an equally biased posting..?
Ah, don't bother to reply.
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> oops! Treaded on the Genesi supporter toes!
Pfffffft.. I am my own free agent, waiting to for the right team to pick me and get signed! :-D
Did you read the reviews guys? Did you notice the complaints? I haven't endured the pain of using sMurfOS, true, but shouldn't you two shut up until the OS you're trumpeting about works correctly? When the peg. and sMurfOS deliver the goods, I'll consider investing in one, and you two can post happily praising the virtues of sMorfOS, but at the moment, there isn't really anything to get excited about.
You shouldn't never knock down other systems, more so when the one you're defending is choke full of bugs, unstable, runs only a handfull of titles and barely works.
Could you please quote me where I, Darth_X, knock either the Pegasos or Teron/AmigaOne boards? Am I NOT allowed to post critism towards either/or/any product?
And furthermore, DO NOT make up things about me. I have never said AmigaOS4 is "full of bugs, unstable, runs only a handfull of titles and barely works."
NEVER SAID THAT!!!!!! ;-)
And how could I? I have never sat down and tried AmigaOS4, I haven't fired up an amiga in a long time either.
In 2 days, I will be however sitting down and trying a Pegasos with MorphOS for the first time. It should be interesting and I'll post my results here! :-D
As a I'm from the audio/music point of view, I was *initially* disappointed to see that the only audio support provided was basically AHI.. and this is for both systems. (AHI is not so bad after reading up a bit on it)
However, I see this as a great opportunity for myself and others to build a new audio system for this market from scratch!
But finding people with the audio/MIDI/Music background in this market now is incredibly difficult.
Something to consider: if the CEO of a large Pro Audio company were to check this site out, I honestly think they would NOT want to support this market. Too many crazy/psychotic people here..
What do you think?
I think we need to change things around here, and focus on building this market up.
In other words, if we WANT it.. we need to BUILD it!
(see below)
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@ Jethro_Tull
How many people do Amiga Inc., Eyetech or Genesi employ? What are there assets, capital etc
Here is my guess (based on recent happenings, announcements, and now latest this (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2273)):
As for Amiga Inc's employees (recieving monthly payments), I would guess you could count them on one hands fingers (propably even half of that), and my guess is that they are "all" top management recently put there by the biggest owner to salvage what they can. Besides that, there is Fleecy and Ray A Akay, trying hard to keep up appearance.
As for Amiga Inc's assets, capital, etc - None! Nada! Zero! Debts? Wow, now we are talking! If you have a claim towards Amiga Inc, better get in the line ASAP. Not that there is a big chance of actually getting any ...
Genesi have delivered a disappointing, half baked product.
What the h-ll are you talking about? Disappointing - NO! Half baked, certainly not the hardware, and MorphOS is in it's current state *very usable*, even though it still lacks some of the announced features (mostly bundled software). But evolutions moves on fast and we (the users) are all part of it as either spectators or players. I have not seen any comment this far by someone that is disappointed!
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Hello,
"Did you read the reviews guys? Did you notice the complaints? I haven't endured the pain of using sMurfOS, true, but shouldn't you two shut up until the OS you're trumpeting about works correctly? When the peg. and sMurfOS deliver the goods, I'll consider investing in one, and you two can post happily praising the virtues of sMorfOS, but at the moment, there isn't really anything to get excited about.
You shouldn't never knock down other systems, more so when the one you're defending is choke full of bugs, unstable, runs only a handfull of titles and barely works."
Sorry but I think you've never used a recent MorphOS.
Personnaly, I'm a user of MorphOS, AmigaOS 3.x (can't use 4.x sorry as it's not available yet), MacOS X, Linux, BeOS and I had used QNX, FreeBSD, Amithlon, AROS.
And between all this OSes the one I prefer is.... Yes MorphOS! Why? Because:
1) It's rock stable (yes it's, you like it or not). I've no stability problem with MorphOS. I use it everyday for work and fun without crashing. I only crash when using alpha/beta software which are even not related with MorphOS. And i'm not the only one being impressed by the stability. All the people I know who have a Pegasos with MorphOS told me also that they were impressed by it.
2) It's the fastest OS in the world for now.
3) I can use all the AmigaOS 3.x apps I have been used to use and that I like.
4) And of course I can use the new PPC software developped for MorphOS
So please stop posting about things you have no good knowledge about it.
Maybe AmigaOS 4 will be better than MorphOS and maybe not. Nobody knows.
For now MorphOS is the only solution available. You may not like that, but that's the REALITY. And it's a good solution, I really like it.
Regards
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Rogue wrote:
I am surprised at your sense of justice. I wonder, however, what stopped you from stepping up when Targhan posted an equally biased posting..?
Ah, don't bother to reply.
Actually I do bother as I have not read such posting.
I just replied to the first comment on page 4. Believe or not, I don't have time to read every comment posted here on daily basis.
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Believe or not, I don't have time to read every comment posted here on daily basis.
And are you going to comment now that you know?
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@ Dart
I never said anything like that! As you've rightfully stated, OS4 isn't out yet! I was criticising all those who jumped at every opportunity at bashing the A1/OS4! Infact, I totally agree on all the points you make, regarding the Audio market for our machine. Even though I am not attracted by the Pegasos / MorphOS option, I sincerely hope you succeed in your goal of making them a viable audio platform.
@Hooligan
you're the ACE boss! Write something worth reading for once mate! I don't have time to read every post in every thread either, but I've yet to see something written by you which is original and/or constructive. Take you med. you need it!!!
@Helgis
stick to your plans mate, eventually, when you'll fit your m.board in that ATX case, install OS4 and start enjoying your system, you'll forget about all this!
@Frode
although, I never used MorphOS myself. I find it really hard to beleive you. How can MorphOS be better then ALL the operating systems you've listed, when others complain of frequent crashed, incompatibilities and essential features missing. I know if you REALLY want to like something you will, no matter what, but still........ my regards to Gollum.
see ya ppl
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Hello,
although, I never used MorphOS myself. I find it really hard to beleive you. How can MorphOS be better then ALL the operating systems you've listed, when others complain of frequent crashed, incompatibilities and essential features missing. I know if you REALLY want to like something you will, no matter what, but still........ my regards to Gollum.
I said: I prefer MorphOS over the other OS i've listed.
I never said: MorphOS is better than these OSes.
I can't say that and nobody can, as the apreciation of an OS is personal and depend on what you expect from it.
All I can say is that MorphOS is very very stable, works great and have a very good comaptibility.
I'm speaking about the actual version of MorphOS, not some old version people have tested in 2002 during shows.
I don't know who you are talking about when you speak about people complaining. But I'm sure that's either old complains about old version of MorphOS or people who tried it just 5 mins during a show still with an old version and maybe some buggy software installed.
All the people I know who have a Pegasos with MorphOS are happy with it and impressed by the stability and the compatibility of the system.
The way you're thinking is just like if you had said:
AmigaOS is crap as I tried AmigaOS 1.0 and it crashed all the time.
Or: AmigaOS (any version) is crap because it crash when I use MetalWeb.
In the first case, it's an old version of AmigaOS and so that's not because this old version was buggy that the more recent one like 1.3, 2.0, 3.1, 4.0... are/will be also buggy.
In the second case, it's an application which is buggy (here MetalWeb) and crash the system. That obviously doesn't imply that the OS is also buggy.
Regards
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The great thing is we could argue until we are all blue in the face, but it won't solve a single issue.
So, here's what I suggest. Pack up some luggage, and take a trip to a local show/convention where both systems/OS-es will be on display. In the U.S., that will be AmiWest.
Why speculate, when you can see it for yourselves?
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Targhan wrote:
The great thing is we could argue until we are all blue in the face, but it won't solve a single issue.
So, here's what I suggest. Pack up some luggage, and take a trip to a local show/convention where both systems/OS-es will be on display. In the U.S., that will be AmiWest.
Why speculate, when you can see it for yourselves?
A strong point there!
BTW, good luck with your new job! :-)