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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: leofoe on May 04, 2006, 08:47:10 AM

Title: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: leofoe on May 04, 2006, 08:47:10 AM
I saw some threads on this subject on AO but no solutions yet.

I cannot get my X-Surf card to work in my A4000D. The card works in my A2000 though. Sometimes the X-Surf is not recognized in the early startup menu. Sometimes it is. But even if ShowConfig reports the board with the right specs, I get an error on trying to open de x-surf.device.
A4000D specs: Cyberstorm MK II 060 with CyberSCSI, Cybervision 64/3D and X-Surf. No IDE disks. 3.1 ROM's and OS3.9.

Any hints would be very welcome!
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: HellCoder on May 04, 2006, 09:10:45 AM
I've had the same problem, sometimes detection worked and sometimes it didn't. I solved it by putting the card in my other A4000D. I'm not sure wat caused the problem nor did I bother to fix it. Perhaps it has got something to do with buster version ?
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: A1200Power on May 04, 2006, 10:57:45 AM
Hi,

What you tell me also sound like the same problem i had with my towerised 4000. I could not open the device so i installed the boingbag updates 1 and 2. The problem was gone. However i can't explain why your card is not detected right away. Buster rev 9?? rev 11 should do the trick.

Greetzz Henk
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: leofoe on May 04, 2006, 11:15:54 AM
@Henk: I have Buster 11 and I have BB1 and 2 installed.
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: A1200Power on May 04, 2006, 12:06:42 PM
Leo,

That really suck's then, i guess you don't have a spare daugtherboard to check if it make's a difference? Still it is kind a strange having the card not seen at boot.

Gr henk
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: redrumloa on May 04, 2006, 12:21:24 PM
What stack are you using? Gensis, Miami? If using anything other than Miami, I'd recommend trying the Miami Demo version. For the life of me I could never get Genesis to do diddly squat(with a prommy/rtl8029AS that is) :-x
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: leofoe on May 04, 2006, 12:48:19 PM
@redrumloa: I use AmiTCP. I don't believe that has anything to do with the problem. The hardware-interface is not recognized.
Error message from AmiTCP when running startnet is:
OpenDevice: Device or unit failed to open
Interface x-surf not found!
Interface x-surf configuration failed!
Stopping AmiTCP

Thanks anyway for thinking with me!
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: redrumloa on May 04, 2006, 03:04:12 PM
@leofoe

Yeah, very close to the message I used to get when I'd try Genesis with Prommy/rtl8029AS. I'd still say try the Miami Demo to see if it just works.
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: leofoe on May 04, 2006, 08:20:14 PM
@redrumloa: to do you a favor I installed Miami. Running MiamiInit responds with:

Miami is unable to open
device 'Devs:networks/X-surf.device' unit 0.
The device might be in use.
Error 0.
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: redrumloa on May 04, 2006, 08:25:58 PM
@leofoe

OK, I'm sorry it didn't work :-(
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: Framiga on May 04, 2006, 08:30:04 PM
x-surf.device must be lowercase
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: leofoe on May 04, 2006, 08:49:21 PM
@Framiga: The filename was X-surf.device. Changed to lower case: no difference.
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: Framiga on May 04, 2006, 08:58:14 PM
does xsurftest respond? (without run AmiTCP)

Next step, contact Jens S.

AFAIK there are some rare issues, due XSurf autoconfig and ZIII cards.
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: leofoe on May 04, 2006, 09:00:22 PM
@Framiga: I do not have xsurftest. Cannot find it on the net either. Bought this card secondhand w/o software. If someone could supply it, I would be grateful.
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: Framiga on May 04, 2006, 09:13:00 PM
download the latest driver from Here (http://www.jschoenfeld.de/support/support_e.htm)

and read the doc about the Sana2 variable.

The installation CD is ~ 8MB in size. Contact me privately, if you want it as ISO.
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: leofoe on May 04, 2006, 09:26:08 PM
@Framiga: you got mail.
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: Framiga on May 04, 2006, 09:34:06 PM
sent
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: leofoe on May 04, 2006, 09:47:57 PM
@Framiga: Thanks!
Running the proggie gives:
Blabla and then
Testing 16bit memory...false! Then a lot of figures with some differences between written and reading.
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: Framiga on May 04, 2006, 09:56:52 PM
no good! tryed in another Zorro slot? reseat the PLCC chip? cleaning contacts?

You should get about like this:

5/0.MOS:C> xsurftest
xsurf testprg V1.2 (13.12.1999)

Searching for xsurf card (VEN_ID=4626, PROD_ID=23)....found
Board address = 0xea0000

ISA Plug and Pray [ähm] Play setup...
01-CARD VendorID = 0x19808c4a SerNr=0x15eb CRC==x54
Setup PNP card...

Searching for RTL8019 at 0x300...found!
Testing 16bit memory...ok!
Ethernet address =  0:c0::b0::14
Chip is in PnP mode
Chip is using half-duplex mode
Chip is using IOBase 0x300 and IRQ 3  

IRQ / Loopback / cable connection test in progress:
IRQ received ok.
Packet send......via TP!
 
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: leofoe on May 04, 2006, 10:14:24 PM
After a cold boot the program did not even find the RTL8019. Emailed Jens. Will post back here.
Thanks!
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: leofoe on May 04, 2006, 11:25:26 PM
Guess what...
While mailing with Jens he asked a picture of the chip on his card. So I once again removed it from my Amiga. Took the picture, put the card back, switched on the A4000:[color=ff00ff]IT WORKED![/color] Rebooted. Worked. Switch off an on: still worked.
Jens thinks that it probably was a contact problem then.
I will leave it there and do not touch it again!
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: Iggy_Drougge on May 04, 2006, 11:38:58 PM
Quote

leofoe wrote:
Jens thinks that it probably was a contact problem then.
I will leave it there and do not touch it again!


Or perhaps you should consider cleaning the contacts... ;-)
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: leofoe on January 11, 2014, 05:19:45 PM
The X-surf had worked OK for a long time, but about a year ago it stopped working again. So I bought an X-surf-100 and everything is OK in the A4000.
I also have an A3000 and I thought, why not try the broken X-surf in there? It used to work in an A2000.
And it works flawlessly. So the problem is definitely not in the X-surf, but in the combination with an A4000D/Cyberstorm 060.
Title: Re: X-Surf not recognized/recognized but not working
Post by: danbeaver on January 12, 2014, 05:33:37 PM
There are issues in the Z3 address area with other cards; drop it into the Z2 address and check it.  You can also remove other Z3 cards (ZorRam, BRP, Mediator) and see if it works.  The card will show up in Z3 mode (firmware is read) but the cramped address space will not let it function.  In Z2 mode it takes up far less space, but is also slower.  For Z3 cards address space, the order they are installed is crucial.