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Title: Best Web Browser
Post by: Miked on April 29, 2006, 06:49:05 AM
Hey everyone,

I've begun the process of resurrecting my Amiga 500, and was wondering if there were any decent web browsers for the Amiga?  I've heard of one, but I think it can only render in 16 colors.  You I stick to browsing on my windows based system.  Additionally, can a 25/50mhz Amiga handle a DSL connection?

-Miked
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: amigagr on April 29, 2006, 10:10:34 AM
personaly i hate to browse on amiga with the browsers that are available... if you have a network card of course you can use dsl connections with at least 68030/25 and up. need enough ram too.
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: odin on April 29, 2006, 12:39:39 PM
Well with an A500 you're stuck with browsing in max 32 (or 16?) colours due to chipset limitations. TBH the best option for browsing on ECS/OCS would be with Lynx...
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: mr_a500 on April 29, 2006, 01:50:34 PM
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Well with an A500 you're stuck with browsing in max 32 (or 16?) colours due to chipset limitations. TBH the best option for browsing on ECS/OCS would be with Lynx...


You can't browse with 32 colours on an A500 - there's no browser that works in low res (..and who would want it to?). 16 colours is the max.

Lynx? No, the best is definitely IBrowse. It has the best jpeg dithering - and you certainly need that when you've only got 16 colours.
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: Starglider on February 25, 2016, 07:45:58 AM
Anyone got a working link for the 68000 version of IBrowse please?
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: Rotzloeffel on February 25, 2016, 08:20:25 AM
YES! Works here! You need at Ibrowse 1.22.... this is the last known version that works with 68000. Kickstart must be 3.x.....

for Downloading something from aminet it is absolutely enough... Networkconection on my A500 is realized with a PLIPBOX http://lallafa.de/blog/amiga-projects/plipbox/ and Roadshow as the TCP/IP Stack.....
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: Minuous on February 25, 2016, 10:45:40 AM
68000 builds of AWeb are available. IIRC it doesn't need as much memory as IBrowse.
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: Niding on February 25, 2016, 10:54:14 AM
While its semi offtopic, I figure Ill mention the Vampire here;

https://vimeo.com/152180575

A600 browsing at quite impressive speeds. The Vampire is currently only available for A600, but the A500 version isnt far off. Just if you werent aware of the acceleratior.
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: Starglider on February 25, 2016, 04:33:41 PM
Quote from: Minuous;804643
68000 builds of AWeb are available. IIRC it doesn't need as much memory as IBrowse.

Kudos to anyone who can provide a link to AWeb for the Amiga 500+.
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: Sir_Lucas on February 25, 2016, 07:18:51 PM
Quote from: Starglider;804664
Kudos to anyone who can provide a link to AWeb for the Amiga 500+.


There you go AWeb-3.5.09-68000

http://aminet.net/package/comm/www/AWeb-3.5.09-68000

Enjoy ;)
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: Starglider on February 25, 2016, 10:32:10 PM
Thanks, I had tried that but it contains no installable files. Seems to be some special type of compile.
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: Minuous on February 25, 2016, 10:48:30 PM
Quote from: Starglider;804664
Kudos to anyone who can provide a link to AWeb for the Amiga 500+.


http://amigan.1emu.net/releases/AWeb-m68000-05.07.2011.lha
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: Sir_Lucas on February 25, 2016, 11:56:13 PM
Quote from: Starglider;804682
Thanks, I had tried that but it contains no installable files. Seems to be some special type of compile.

What do you mean no installable files? You just unpack the archive and run AWEB icon. That's it :)

What happens when you do it? Do you get any errors?
Do you have ClassAct in your system?
http://aminet.net/package/dev/gui/ClassAct2Demo
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: wawrzon on February 25, 2016, 11:59:16 PM
Quote from: Sir_Lucas;804689
What do you mean no installable files? You just unpack the archive and run AWEB icon. That's it :)
 yes, thats class act, a rather  late contribution what become reaction later he is missing.
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: mechy on February 26, 2016, 12:58:24 AM
Quote from: Miked;246523
Hey everyone,

I've begun the process of resurrecting my Amiga 500, and was wondering if there were any decent web browsers for the Amiga?  I've heard of one, but I think it can only render in 16 colors.  You I stick to browsing on my windows based system.  Additionally, can a 25/50mhz Amiga handle a DSL connection?

-Miked

Not sure if these run on 68000 but they might be of interest to all amigas, its from Biggun,his aweb Max version of aweb:

http://www.greyhound-data.com/gunnar/aweb/
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: Starglider on February 26, 2016, 01:22:50 AM
Quote from: Minuous;804684
http://amigan.1emu.net/releases/AWeb-m68000-05.07.2011.lha


Thanks but are you sure this 8MB file is for Amiga 500+?
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: Starglider on February 26, 2016, 01:25:03 AM
Quote from: Sir_Lucas;804689
What do you mean no installable files? You just unpack the archive and run AWEB icon. That's it :)

What happens when you do it? Do you get any errors?
Do you have ClassAct in your system?
http://aminet.net/package/dev/gui/ClassAct2Demo

There were no icons that were executable. If you look inside the lha (http://aminet.net/package/comm/www/AWeb-3.5.09-68000#contents) there aren't any .info files/

I installed ClassAct, but that made no difference to that.
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: Minuous on February 26, 2016, 02:43:59 PM
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Thanks but are you sure this 8MB file is for Amiga 500+?

Yes, that includes various catalogs, etc.; not all parts are loaded into memory simultaneously.

Quote from: Starglider;804698
there aren't any .info files

I can email you a suitable icon if you like. In the meantime it can be run directly from CLI.
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: Sir_Lucas on February 26, 2016, 08:57:41 PM
Quote from: Starglider;804698
There were no icons that were executable. If you look inside the lha (http://aminet.net/package/comm/www/AWeb-3.5.09-68000#contents) there aren't any .info files/

I installed ClassAct, but that made no difference to that.


Check this video (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3Fd1_NNkYH-WTh4ekU1bkN0X2M)
It shows AWEB 68000 downloaded from Aminet and working.

Downloaded with IBrowse 2.4 - A1200 030 + Roadshow + WIFI CARD. AmigaOS 3.1 + ClassAct.
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: sim085 on February 26, 2016, 10:26:27 PM
Do not want to hijack the thread but does 68000 mean it runs on 68000? I downloaded AWeb provided here and tried it on WinUAE. When I set the CPU to 68000 I get an error (AWeb, Program failed (error #80000003), Wait for disk activity to finish).

When I try it with CPU 68020 it works. So is this usable on a real A500?
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: Ross_Geller on February 27, 2016, 01:18:33 AM
I've got AWeb running.

After installing Classact, I did this:

1. Download the 68020 version: http://aminet.net/package/comm/www/aweb3.5.09_68k_20070721
2. Download the 68000 version: http://aminet.net/package/comm/www/AWeb-3.5.09-68000
3. Unpack the two versions, and copy the 68000 files over the 68020 versions.
4. Don't run the installer, it complains that it wants at least a 68020 to run.  Instead, just click on the AWeb icon and it runs (for me at least!).

At the moment all I can do is look at the AWeb docs, but it's a start!
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: Starglider on February 27, 2016, 03:22:04 AM
I found an AWeb demo that has all the icons for launching. Thanks for the guidance.
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: sim085 on February 28, 2016, 06:21:43 PM
Thanks, I'll try those steps out.

Quote from: Ross_Geller;804738
I've got AWeb running.
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: sim085 on February 28, 2016, 11:47:49 PM
Still does not work for me :(

I am trying on Workbench 3.1 (With BetterWB)
The ROM is 3.1
CPU is set to 68000 (Fastest Possible)
Chipset is Full ECS
RAM 2MB Chip and 8MB Z2 Fast

The WinUAE version I am using is 3.1.0

I get the same error as before. However if I use 68020 CPU it works.

Quote from: sim085;804814
Thanks, I'll try those steps out.
Title: Re: Best Web Browser
Post by: Ross_Geller on February 29, 2016, 03:22:21 AM
Quote from: sim085;804830
Still does not work for me :(

I am trying on Workbench 3.1 (With BetterWB)
The ROM is 3.1
CPU is set to 68000 (Fastest Possible)
Chipset is Full ECS
RAM 2MB Chip and 8MB Z2 Fast

The WinUAE version I am using is 3.1.0

I get the same error as before. However if I use 68020 CPU it works.

I was going to post a long instruction guide for setting up AWeb on a fresh install of 3.1 with your WinUAE setting.  

But, I then then installed BetterWB and got the AWeb crashes you got.  Sometimes AWeb would run for ages, sometimes it would crash when I was changing website.  The crash would usually turn the screen to garbage, and then it'd Guru with 80000003, 80000000, and even one 8000000F.

I don't know what the conflict is, but I hope someone can suggest a fix, because BetterWB looks interesting.

And give Aweb on a fresh, stock 3.1 install another chance.

P.S.  Why on why do we have to get the Installer command from the root of the Install disk, rather than it being automatically copied into the C directory?  Such a weird choice...