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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Wilse on April 20, 2006, 10:43:20 PM
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After three and a half months with no A1, I'm finally back up and running again.
I fried the CPU and had to send it to Amiga Repair Center in France.
I've just upgraded to Update 4 and, bugger me, HD-Rec absolutely flys!
Happy again.... :-)
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I fried the CPU and had to send it to Amiga Repair Center in France.
Are you sure your name is "Robert" and not "Helgis"?
:-P
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humppa wrote:
I fried the CPU and had to send it to Amiga Repair Center in France.
Are you sure your name is "Robert" and not "Helgis"?
:-P
C'mon, isn't a guy allowed to be happy about working hardware? :-)
Have fun, Wilse!
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@humppa:
Jeezy-chreezy, do I really sound that enthusiastic?
Shoot me now! :roflmao:
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Jeezy Chreezy ??
reminds me of an Eddie Izzard skit !
-the one with The Father (James Mason), The Son (Michael Caine) and the Holy Ghost off being vague somewhere...
glad to hear you're up and runnin agin. hope fer us all !!
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Of course he doesn't sound like Helgis, he doesn't mention
overclocking :-)
C Snyder
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@Wilse
Good to hear your machine is running again.
All the best.
redfox
MicroA1-C + OS4.0 pre-release update 4 :-D
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Congrats! If I were you, I'd sell it before it dies again.. :egad:
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redrumloa wrote:
Congrats! If I were you, I'd sell it before it dies again.. :egad:
:lol: So true.
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> reminds me of an Eddie Izzard skit !
That's probably where I got the expression.
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> If I were you, I'd sell it before it dies again..
It didn't die of it's own accord - I killed it.
I'm actually thinking of punting my Peg1 now.
I haven't switched it on for a month and have instead been using an iBook.
Now that I have this A1 and a WinXP box on the way, I'm unlikely to use the Peg much at all.
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It didn't die of it's own accord - I killed it.
Did you really though(http://www.whyzzat.com/forums/images/smiles/icon_question.gif) Hardware compared to hardware, personally I'd trust the Pegasos more. Software to software (OS4 - MOS), both look to be DOA. But anyhow, don't get me wrong. I'm sure it's probably fun to tinker with:-) Keep and use what you want. I'm glad it's working again for you.
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redrumloa wrote:
Congrats! If I were you, I'd sell it before it dies again.. :egad:
I have not heard of that many amigaones dying by itself?? Most of the people who had damaged their amigaone had either overclocked the cpu or there was some problem with the cooling that made the cpu overheat.
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I have not heard of that many amigaones dying by itself?? Most of the people who had damaged their amigaone had either overclocked the cpu or there was some problem with the cooling that made the cpu overheat.
I'm under the impression that they are quite flakey and prone to failure. I would never buy one, but I won't say much more. Personal opinions have gotten me labeled a Genesi employee (not on AO) in the past. :lol:
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Mines been fine since day one - the only flakiness is getting the USB to pop up when I power up the Hub.
everything else is fine.
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redrumloa wrote:
It didn't die of it's own accord - I killed it.
Did you really though(http://www.whyzzat.com/forums/images/smiles/icon_question.gif)
Most definitely. I replaced the fan with a heatsink but didn't secure it properly, resulting in no cooling.
Entirely my own fault.
Bear in mind I had the thing for a few years by this point.
Hardware compared to hardware, personally I'd trust the Pegasos more.
Couldn't agree more. It's a far more elegant machine and totally silent.
Software to software (OS4 - MOS), both look to be DOA.
This is the kicker for me. The latest update of OS4 means I no longer need MOS. In my opinion OS4 is now a much nicer environment than MOS. At the risk of sounding like a sad tadger I'd even go as far as to say it is more amiga-like.
There is now only one thing I can think of that I can use my Pegasos for but not my A1 - Pro Station Audio.
If I don't punt the Pegasos, PSA will be the sole reason.
But anyhow, don't get me wrong. I'm sure it's probably fun to tinker with:-) Keep and use what you want. I'm glad it's working again for you.
Cheers. I'm still astonished at how well HD-Rec seems to work.
(Crashes out opn my Peg after one play, rendering it almost, but not quite unusable.)
I can now use my A1 as a multitracker/fx box/etc....
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redrumloa wrote:
I have not heard of that many amigaones dying by itself?? Most of the people who had damaged their amigaone had either overclocked the cpu or there was some problem with the cooling that made the cpu overheat.
I'm under the impression that they are quite flakey and prone to failure. I would never buy one, but I won't say much more. Personal opinions have gotten me labeled a Genesi employee (not on AO) in the past. :lol:
The chipset on it mai+via 686b is indeed causing some issues as they are extremly buggy. But i have not heard about any other serious issues. I myself would as well get the Pegasos if it ran OS4. Sadly i dont expect that to happen due to certain nazi licensing issues with AmigaINC. :cry:
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I'm under the impression that they are quite flakey and prone to failure. I would never buy one,
It's all perception. When my Pegasos arrived it was faulty and was eventually replaced. The new one has worked beautifully ever since. When my A1 arrived it was fine but could only run linux. Then it ran OS4 beautifully until Hogmanay, when the fan went.
Having had experience of both sides of this particular coin I would say that both machines are nice and, while I'd love to see OS4 on the Peg, it isn't going to happen anytime soon.
Given the above, I prefer the A1.
(but only by a bawherr... ;-))
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My MicroA1-c just locks up on occasion. It's either the core voltage or the fan-cooler. I'm probably going to replace the PPC 750FX with something G4-level after the announced CPU-modules come out in June. Then I should be able either to use it or sell it and buy a PowerVixxen LT for my A1200.
I bought it when it looked like the Micros had the bugs fixed that the XEs had. It seems that I was wrong about the Micros but I'm still happy with the AmigaOS 4.0 prereleases.
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@Wilse
congrats on getting your system up! Yippy!
Agafaster wrote:
Mines been fine since day one - the only flakiness is getting the USB to pop up when I power up the Hub.
everything else is fine.
do you have the NEWEST OS4 release - there's been several updates, and YES they all make a big difference.
The amiga meeting I attend have a beta tester so we get to see the OS develop nearly right in front of our eyes. (on a monthy basis, of course :lol: )
just last friday I had a look and plugged my USB flash drive and, removed it, plugged it back in, and it worked just dandy.
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cecilia wrote:
@Wilse
congrats on getting your system up! Yippy!
Thanks cecilia.
Agafaster wrote:
Mines been fine since day one - the only flakiness is getting the USB to pop up when I power up the Hub.
everything else is fine.
do you have the NEWEST OS4 release - there's been several updates, and YES they all make a big difference.
The amiga meeting I attend have a beta tester so we get to see the OS develop nearly right in front of our eyes. (on a monthy basis, of course :lol: )
just last friday I had a look and plugged my USB flash drive and, removed it, plugged it back in, and it worked just dandy.
I just tried this with the front USB ports on my A1. Using the bottom port, I could plug and unplug my smartcard reader and copy and delete files, no problem.
Using the top port I get a message saying the device could not be mounted.
Not a problem for me. I'll just use the bottom port.
Now I'm just trying to figure out how to get the screen blanker working.
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Red
Why would you say that OS4 and MOS are "DOA" they are both being developed atm...
@ Wilse congrats. Thank GOD for this repair center. Amazing that Eyetech wont honor warranties on those $900 prototype boards...
magnetic
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Why would you say that OS4 and MOS are "DOA" they are both being developed atm...
Ok I'll bite. When will either receive a commercial release? When will MOS receive a significant update? When will OS4 have available hardware to run on? Not talk, hard facts please. I just don't see either as anything more than a curiosity anymore, as much as I hate to say it. AROS seems to have more of a future. BTW I'm not saying to stop using what someone has, I'm just saying I don't see either progressing at all from this point.
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Yeah, the A1 has no future... :-(
We should all go back to the old 68k...
bla-bla-bla........
:-D
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@ Wilse congrats. Thank GOD for this repair center. Amazing that Eyetech wont honor warranties on those $900 prototype boards...
I'm not sure if you're being deliberately disingenius or if you really think my 12 month warranty should last for five years.
My A1 lasted well past it's warranty expiration and my heatsink/fan shenanigans would probably have made it void anyway, so *Please* stop spreading BS. ;-)
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Wilse wrote:
Then it ran OS4 beautifully until Hogmanay, when the fan went.
Hmmn, I wonder if the timing of the botched fan job is a coincidence ;-)
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uncharted wrote:
Wilse wrote:
Then it ran OS4 beautifully until Hogmanay, when the fan went.
Hmmn, I wonder if the timing of the botched fan job is a coincidence ;-)
The timing of the fan stopping working probably had a lot to do with the fact that my house had something like 60 *very* wasted people in it at the time and the A1 was being used for the music, via "amp".
The botched repair occurred a week or so later.
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Wilse wrote:
SNIP!
(but only by a bawherr... ;-))
:lol: Now I've given myself away ;-)
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Red
Just because there is no "commercial release" doesnt mean an OS project is DOA this goes for both os4 and MOS. Though without a HW platform OS4 isnt looking promising for the future :((
@ Wilse
Well as you know even if it WAS within 12 months we all know that Eyetech doesnt honor the warranty. And I will add the bplan repairs peg boards free of charge well after warranty.... so bs that.
magnetic
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Magnetic, please stop trying to harass A1 owners on every thread you come across.
I'm a 100% classic guy, and your even getting on my tits.
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Well as you know even if it WAS within 12 months we all know that Eyetech doesnt honor the warranty.
So? You've used what happened to me as an excuse to bash Eyetech, when, as you WELL KNOW, it had hee-haw to do with them.
And I will add the bplan repairs peg boards free of charge well after warranty.... so bs that.
Good on them but what relevance has that, or Eyetech's warranty fulfillemnt, to my situation? None, whatsoever.
Do the words "fan boy" or "zealot" mean anything to you?
:roll:
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@cecilia
yeah, I have Update 4 installed.
its a bit problematic - I have to have the self-powered media-reader/hub unpowered when I boot into AOS - it gets recognised and starts the USB Mass storage commodity if I power the Hub once everything else is started and ready to roll.
a 3 finger salute if required can cause the hub to not be recognised, and I have to either unpower before the salute. I reckon it could be in need of the USB fix, which is why I bought the damn hub in the first place ! when it works, though, it works quite well - though I can get lockups if copying photos from the CF slot by multifile drag and drop - necessitating the need to reboot. not got it nailed yet, but I a) dont have much time, b) dont really have an urgent need - I can work around it.
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My A1SE has been running for over 40 months now with no problems except the USB debounce thingy. It's in use every day, has only had 1 data error that could possibly be attributed to any Articia DMA bugs (and that was within the first couple of months when using Suse 7.3).
I've had far flakier x86 boards and the A1 at an original price of £550 or so has provided what I consider to be good value for money.
It amazes me how some people seem to have an unfortunate desire to denigrate someone else's good news or happiness.
@Wilse:
Good to hear it's up and running. Have fun.
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Red
Just because there is no "commercial release" doesnt mean an OS project is DOA this goes for both os4 and MOS.
This is getting way OT, we should probably continue in a new thread if we want to take this much further. I'll just say this.
Both aimed for a true commercial release and fell short. Both did release a somewhat to fairly useful(beta/pre/insert term)product. Neither seem to have very much additional work being performed. Some people on both sides claim development is hot an heavy, but all inidicators would point seem to point to the opposite. Virtual tumbleweeds.. Schmidt is going imbedded (if anything) and OS4 is orphaned with a final beta prerelease to existing "beta board" owners only.
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Its not bashing.. its called tired of A1 people posting falsehoods and correcting them. Thats not bashing its called telling the truth. Everyone hates Genesi and blames them for all kinds of problems but what about Amiga inc? They are the real culprits and they killed the Amiga not Genesi, not bbrv. And Eyetech, who I had lots of respect for not honoring warranties on 800 protoype motherboards is just PITA.
magnetic
So, you are tired of it? You are "just" a user. Try being an Amiga dealer over 10 years and live with Amiga situation, see how you feel. Many people have given their livelyhood to this and have been crushed by the lies and mismanagment of the Amiga brand and company..
I was there when Bill Mcewen announced OS4 and said "on schedule and rockin'" and STILL NO OS4 Release! It doesnt infuriate you that due to a poor contract between Ainc and Hyperion that they wont/cant release it?????
Not to mention all the mis/disinformation spread about MOS project and certain Amiga heroes like Ralph Schmidt and others...
:madashell:
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This post is so full of self-righteous, irrelevent, paranoid bollox that it's difficult to know where to begin so I'll address your points one at a time:
Its not bashing..
Wrong. That's exactly what it is. You may not be able to see this, due to your own one-sided perspective, but it's bashing all the same.
its called tired of A1 people posting falsehoods
I'm the so-called "A1" person who started this thread.
Please, can you tell me where I've posted a falsehood?
and correcting them.
Or where you've corrected me?
Thats not bashing its called telling the truth.
It would be if that was what you had done but, unfortunately, what you did was nothing of the sort.
Everyone hates Genesi and blames them for all kinds of problems
Straw man alert!
Genesi were excellent to me. Cheap Peg1, followed by replacement when it turned out to be faulty.
No problem with them from my personal perspective.
So this is your excuse for using this thread to slag Eyetech?
Absolutely pathetic, mate, honestly....
but what about Amiga inc? They are the real culprits and they killed the Amiga not Genesi, not bbrv.
Awwww.... get over yourself, FFS!
And Eyetech, who I had lots of respect for not honoring warranties on 800 protoype motherboards is just PITA.
800?
I think you might telling a wee white lie here, no?
You need to lie down, Magnetic. You're bginning to sound like Samface's evil twin....
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magnetic wrote:
Everyone hates Genesi and blames them for all kinds of problems but what about Amiga inc? They are the real culprits and they killed the Amiga not Genesi, not bbrv.
pssssst, the "war" is over.
and, as in most wars, everybody is the loser.
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"Wilse" or Dave P or whatever your name is...
You can sit there and defend Eyetech and Ainc all you want. They did not responsibly handle the Amiga market. There is no disputing this, regardless of what warped facts you want to present.
As a matter of fact A1 boards were selling for MORE than $800 in the US.
And yes, I'm a Bplan fanboy. I'm a "fanboy" of any company that goes out of their way to help users and honor warranties well past they are over. (Who does that?) Then, on the other side of the coin you have Eyetech who didnt honor any warranty at all.. so not that tough of a choice apparently.
You can call me "samface" all you want. The truth is I know Bill McEwen (even made him an Amiga tie), Alan Redhouse (has beers with him and Petro) and a host of other Amiga luminaries. Actually, the best chance the "Amiga" had was with Jim Collas and Gateway screwed that up...
This whole fiasco with Hyperion/Ainc vs Mos/Genesi was sad and could have been avoided. I actually have a magazine press release calling the Peg1 the new Amiga 1. If Ainc had made MOS "OS4" things would have been a lot different. Instead, they went with Hyperion and slung mud at some of the top level Amiga gurus we have.. just look at the names on the MOS team.. impeccable. And look at Bplan - ex Phase 5. Real amiga lovers. And what have you all done? Turned your backs on them and called THEM traitors. What a #*@) joke.
This is my problem. This is why I post like this. Alot of users dont know the real facts, just versions of the truth people like you spread. It sucks
magnetic
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With respect ladies and gentlemen, this topic has gone irretrievably off and is now being locked. Please take a moment to breathe and relax before going back and starting anything else.
Wayne