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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: kiniki on March 27, 2006, 03:22:42 PM
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Blizzard 1230 with 16 meg
or Viper Turbo 68030 with 8 meg?
I have no idea... but I would guess at the blizzard?
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Blizzard.
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BLIZZARD
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Blizzard it is!
Next question... is it worth upgrading to 3.1 kickroms from 3.0?
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If you want to use OS 3.5 or 3.9, yeah. Otherwise, probably not. Although, with a Blizzard you can softkick 3.1. This is illegal, though.
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Doesn't 3.5 and 3.9 only come on CD?
I have been looking for 3.5 but so far I have not seen it on a floppy... That was on ebay tho...
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Yeah, 3.1 was the last floppy based release.
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In my best assumption I'd have to take the Blizzard, however Viper feels like getting there.
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xeron wrote:
Yeah, 3.1 was the last floppy based release.
What benefits would I be looking at by upgrading to 3.5?
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Get OS 3.9 and a cd-rom drive... What you get? The latest released Os for the Amiga classic! I would never go back :)
http://www.gregdonner.org/os39review/os39review.htm - An old but good review.
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is it worth upgrading to 3.1 kickroms from 3.0?
Not really. Kickstart 3.1 is bug fixed 3.0 but differences are not very great. KS 3.1 enables running AOS 3.5/3.9 though, also known as Aminet Patch Collection.
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@kiniki, krize:
You dont need a CD-ROM to install 3.5/3.9. You can for example archive the 3.5/3.9 CD on another machine, transfer it to your Amiga via network/nullmodem, then extract it onto a partition of your harddrive and rename that partition to the same name as the 3.5/3.9 CD.
There are many other ways to transfer the data to your Amiga though, to mention some:
- Put the contents of the 3.5/3.9 CD onto a Compact Flash card and use a PCMCIA->CF adapter to read it on the Amiga.
- Put the Amiga harddrive in a pc with WinUAE and install 3.9 there.
/Patrik
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If you want to use OS 3.5 or 3.9, yeah. Otherwise, probably not. Although, with a Blizzard you can softkick 3.1. This is illegal, though.
Is it really illegal though?
I own an A1200, I have a licence to use the 3.0 Roms. Would the copyright owners really begrudge me softkicking the 3.1 Roms, the difference being just a few buigfixes?
In PC land flashing your motherboard bios is offered as 'support'.
In Amiga land, updating your kickstart by a minor revision is 'illegal'.
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rare_j wrote:
If you want to use OS 3.5 or 3.9, yeah. Otherwise, probably not. Although, with a Blizzard you can softkick 3.1. This is illegal, though.
Is it really illegal though?
Yes.
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Another advantage of using real Kickstart 3.1 ROMs (http://) is to use NSDPatch et al to allow the use of larger than 4GB hard disks on your A1200
BTW: If your A1200 doesn't have a CDROM, any original AmigaOS 3.5 CD (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=190) or AmigaOS 3.9 CD (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=153) bought from www.amigakit.com can be installed onto another medium when bought at the same time such as a PCMCIA to CF adapter (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=440) or 2.5" hard disk (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=2.5+hard+disk).
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And Amigakit.com comes through again!
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krize wrote:
Get OS 3.9 and a cd-rom drive... What you get? The latest released Os for the Amiga classic! I would never go back :)
I'd agree to a point, but only if you've got a faster Amiga with a graphics card. Otherwise, the changes aren't worth the bother and IMHO, OS3.9 looks cluttered on standard AGA.
Upgrading to KS3.1 ROMs can be useful - especially if you want to add something like a Subway USB adaptor (which requires 3.1).
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you need to actually own the os3.1 roms if you really dont want to install them (fear of messing up?) then softkick. that is legal and covered under fair use laws.
the company can and should defend its copyrights. owning amiga forever (uninstalled) and using an image to softkick is a bit of a push but is also legal.
there is a legal way to get roms please do so. it doesnt cost much, ~40 usd so if you are springing for the blizzard get the roms too. btw there are places you can get os3.5 or 3.9 with roms for a lower cost then each separetly.
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rare_j wrote:
In PC land flashing your motherboard bios is offered as 'support'.
In Amiga land, updating your kickstart by a minor revision is 'illegal'.
But the difference is that in 'PC land', the BIOS doesn't contain major parts of the OS.
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even pcbios and motherboard companies defend their ip and copyrightable stuff
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Yes of course - I respect ip and copyright. But I can't believe the copyright holders, whoever they are these days, would object this particular situation; a legal user of the 3.0 roms in hardware ugrading via software to version 3.1 ... maybe it's time someone contacted them to ask.
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@rare_j
Let us all know what you find out.
BTW, you can run Workbench 3.1 on 3.0 ROMs witout (any?) trouble. I did it for a year or so quite by accident.
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@ rare_j
following your argumentation, it should have been OK for users that have a fully licensed copy of Win98 to install a version of WinMe that they have found somewhere in the net, as it only contains some minor bugfixes.
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Lemmink wrote:
@ rare_j
following your argumentation, it should have been OK for users that have a fully licensed copy of Win98 to install a version of WinMe that they have found somewhere in the net, as it only contains some minor bugfixes.
Bug fixes? Don't you mean advanced bug upgrades?
...er, off topic i suppose
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I managed to get a blizz for £40 so ill give you the virdict shortly...
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tokyoracer wrote:
I managed to get a blizz for £40 so ill give you the virdict shortly...
Good job!
I bet I will end up paying more for it than that!