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Title: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: Louis Dias on February 24, 2006, 01:10:42 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8262628070
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: Louis Dias on March 03, 2006, 05:27:16 PM
I can't believe nobody bought this despite several watchers.

Anyone want to make me an offer before I relist?
Game and manuals are fine so is the cover to the box...just the box itself is damaged.
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: zefiro on March 03, 2006, 07:08:46 PM
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lou_dias wrote:
I can't believe nobody bought this despite several watchers.

Anyone want to make me an offer before I relist?
Game and manuals are fine so is the cover to the box...just the box itself is damaged.


There is any less expensive shipping cost to Italy ?
That's was stopping me to bid. Thank you anyway.
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: Louis Dias on March 03, 2006, 07:59:56 PM
The problem is the main manual is heavy.  The second manual is the CD32 Ammendum, that one is light.
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: icbrkr on March 04, 2006, 01:09:06 PM
I was watching it but the $8.25 non priority shipping is what turned me off to it.  I paid less than that to have a boxed Marvin's Marvelous adventure shipped to me from the UK via airmail :)
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: Louis Dias on March 05, 2006, 02:13:51 AM
I put the game up for a penny with NO RESERVE.
If you pay a penny for it and $8.25 to ship it which should get to you in a couple of days depending on how far from Mass you are, could you really complain much?

Would you prefer I start the bidding at $5.01 and charge $3.25 for shipping?  The difference is I would pay a higher listing and final value fee.  Either way, I get hit with 2.9% + $0.30 from Paypal because I am a merchant.  So you can pay with a credit card and it makes no difference to me.

See the pic and compare the box to the size of the game's CD...This game comes in an 8"x9" box with a thick manual so it won't cost just a couple of dollars to ship it over seas.  I have a bigger box to put it in and ship it, I'm not just going to wrap it up.

In any case, I've relisted it.
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: icbrkr on March 05, 2006, 03:58:31 AM
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lou_dias wrote:
I put the game up for a penny with NO RESERVE.
If you pay a penny for it and $8.25 to ship it which should get to you in a couple of days depending on how far from Mass you are, could you really complain much?

Would you prefer I start the bidding at $5.01 and charge $3.25 for shipping?  The difference is I would pay a higher listing and final value fee.  Either way, I get hit with 2.9% + $0.30 from Paypal because I am a merchant.  So you can pay with a credit card and it makes no difference to me.

See the pic and compare the box to the size of the game's CD...This game comes in an 8"x9" box with a thick manual so it won't cost just a couple of dollars to ship it over seas.  I have a bigger box to put it in and ship it, I'm not just going to wrap it up.

In any case, I've relisted it.


Hey, you asked why no one bid on it.  I'm just stating why I, as a buyer, did not.  Also as a bidder, I could really care what you pay for merchant costs, etc.  I don't pass that along when I sell on ebay nor my online store.  I incur the costs as I believe that's part of normal business expenses.  Would I have bid if it were $5 with 3.25 shipping?  Yep.  See, if I bid $10, had my bid met and was charged 3.25, I'd be out 13.25.  My bid would be considerably lower if I thought I'd have to pay more for shipping.  $10 total is a good deal if it didn't get bid any higher than a penny.  Not only that, as a buyer, I know that it won't cost anywhere close to that amount to ship to the US flat rate (and at the most, 5.50 for US Priority) so it's a matter of principle for me.
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: adolescent on March 05, 2006, 04:55:39 AM
It's a great game.  I would have bought it for $.01 if I didn't already have a copy.  

BTW, the CD32 wasn't the first 32bit CD based console.  :-D
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: Louis Dias on March 06, 2006, 03:00:31 AM
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icbrkr wrote:
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lou_dias wrote:
I put the game up for a penny with NO RESERVE.
If you pay a penny for it and $8.25 to ship it which should get to you in a couple of days depending on how far from Mass you are, could you really complain much?

Would you prefer I start the bidding at $5.01 and charge $3.25 for shipping?  The difference is I would pay a higher listing and final value fee.  Either way, I get hit with 2.9% + $0.30 from Paypal because I am a merchant.  So you can pay with a credit card and it makes no difference to me.

See the pic and compare the box to the size of the game's CD...This game comes in an 8"x9" box with a thick manual so it won't cost just a couple of dollars to ship it over seas.  I have a bigger box to put it in and ship it, I'm not just going to wrap it up.

In any case, I've relisted it.


Hey, you asked why no one bid on it.  I'm just stating why I, as a buyer, did not.  Also as a bidder, I could really care what you pay for merchant costs, etc.  I don't pass that along when I sell on ebay nor my online store.  I incur the costs as I believe that's part of normal business expenses.  Would I have bid if it were $5 with 3.25 shipping?  Yep.  See, if I bid $10, had my bid met and was charged 3.25, I'd be out 13.25.  My bid would be considerably lower if I thought I'd have to pay more for shipping.  $10 total is a good deal if it didn't get bid any higher than a penny.  Not only that, as a buyer, I know that it won't cost anywhere close to that amount to ship to the US flat rate (and at the most, 5.50 for US Priority) so it's a matter of principle for me.


I see, so I should actually pay you to take it away from me then....  If I put it up for actuall shipping costs and it sold for a penny, I would lose money selling it to you due to insertion fees and Paypay merchant fees.  That's a great principle you have.

Everyone knows inflated shipping costs are for:
1) handling like actually having to waste gas to go to the post office and stand in the freakin line
2) avoiding a higher insertion fee incurred with a higher starting bid

Deal with it.


@adolescent

Please tell me what the first 32-bit CD based console actually was.
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: Hyperspeed on March 06, 2006, 03:13:54 AM
I think the CD32 was the first 32-Bit CD console...

The 68020 was a 32-bit processor and at the time the CD32 was competing against the Mega-CD (68000) which was 16-Bit.

I don't think the Neo-Geo CD came for a while later. If I remember correctly the Neo-Geo used a 68000 too!

Funnily enough, one of the Mega-CDs FMV games called 'Double Switch' starred Debbie 'Blondie' Harry. She of the 1985 Amiga launch!

:-D
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: adolescent on March 06, 2006, 03:21:19 AM
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Hyperspeed wrote:
I think the CD32 was the first 32-Bit CD console...


Fujitsu FM Towns Marty.  Released in 1991, 32bit (i386) power!   :lol:
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: Hyperspeed on March 06, 2006, 05:11:57 AM
I wouldn't call that thing a console... it was basically a PC.

Yeah it had about 1 more game than the NEC-FX (that makes 2)...

:-D :-D

You could argue that the Amstrad Mega-PC was a console and the Sharp PCs with inbuilt PC Engine...

Still, the Mega-CD won the CD war. I think 1 in 20 Megadrive owners bought it and it was a bigger hit in Japan.

The Jag CD, 3D0 etc. bombed!
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: adolescent on March 06, 2006, 06:22:07 AM
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Hyperspeed wrote:
I wouldn't call that thing a console... it was basically a PC.


And the CD32 was basicly an Amiga 1200.  Would you call it a console?
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: Hyperspeed on March 06, 2006, 07:47:48 AM
Yes, because the CD32 wasn't the size of a breezeblock and wasn't mounted vertically.

Oh, wait...   the X-Box...

DARN!

:-D

EDIT: Oh wait, there was a little white Marty too wasn't there, looked like a PSone. What year was that released?

I'm sure it had some Final Fight style game on it...

Anyway, UFO:Enemy Unknown was given away free on an Amiga Format cover CD in the latter years of the 20th Century!
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: adolescent on March 06, 2006, 05:19:16 PM
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Hyperspeed wrote:

EDIT: Oh wait, there was a little white Marty too wasn't there, looked like a PSone. What year was that released?


:crazy:

All of the Fujitsu FM Towns Marty systems looked like consoles (they look very similar to the PC Engine Duo/Turbo Duo).  Don't confuse the Marty with the FM Towns computer systems.  The Marty was always positioned as a game console.  Like I said they were released in 1991.  A full two years before the CD32.
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: koaftder on March 06, 2006, 05:27:50 PM
will it play on game cube?
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: Louis Dias on March 06, 2006, 05:40:09 PM
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koaftder wrote:
will it play on game cube?


yeah, right after YOU port AKIKO
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: Hyperspeed on March 06, 2006, 09:23:47 PM
adolescent: Oh, I was confusing it with the computer. Not hard to do since FM Towns is a brand from Fujitsu... so Marty would be equivalent to the '1200' bit bit of Commodore Amiga A[1200]!

:-D

Commodore may not have been totally wrong. The CD32 was the first 32-Bit CD console (released in any country other than Japan).

;-)

One could argue though that the CD32 had 32-Bit AGA Lisa, what was the Marty's GFX bandwidth?

Interesting bit of kit the Car Marty is, Sega copied this with the Hi-Saturn didn't they?

When you compare the games on CD32 (Aliens Breed, Roadkill etc.) and the schoolgirl based filth on the Marty you can understand why one was a little more available in the West.

:-D :-D :-D

EDIT:
Wasn't there a sequel to UFO:Enemy Unknown on PC called 'XCOM - Apocalypse' ?
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: Louis Dias on March 06, 2006, 10:50:08 PM
Apocalypse was the 3rd or 4th sequel.
I have just about all the PC iterations except the original which I have on the CD32 and am now selling.

I even have the so-so X-COM Enforcer action 3rd person shooter.

Adolescent:  I said "The World's" first 32-bit CD-based console, not Japan's.  I guess I should have said "mass-market" as well.  They did sell over 400,000 last I heard.
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: Hyperspeed on March 07, 2006, 01:21:58 AM
400,000 CD32s were sold worldwide?

That's pretty low considering the Mega-CD sold 270,000 and I think that was just in the UK!

Anyone know of a chart of sales figures, that'd be really interesting!
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: adolescent on March 07, 2006, 03:31:47 AM
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Hyperspeed wrote:
That's pretty low considering the Mega-CD sold 270,000 and I think that was just in the UK!


The Playstation sold over 100,000,000 consoles and has an excellent X-Com port.  :-D

@lou

Sorry, I thought you meant "world's first" not "world's first (in Amiga fantasy land)".  :crazy:  
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: Louis Dias on March 07, 2006, 12:17:13 PM
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adolescent wrote:

Sorry, I thought you meant "world's first" not "world's first (in Amiga fantasy land)".  :crazy:  


If it's not for sale outside one market then it's not a worldwide product.  That's Marketing 101.  :rtfm:
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: Hyperspeed on March 08, 2006, 12:15:07 AM
lou: I think we shall have to accept defeat here. World First should mean the first to be released in the world, we had the opportunity to buy it through importers but didn't.

We should definately make a list of all Amiga's '1st Done' achievements and maybe a list of EXCLUSIVE games that never appeared on any other format.
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: Louis Dias on March 10, 2006, 04:33:22 AM
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Hyperspeed wrote:
lou: I think we shall have to accept defeat here. World First should mean the first to be released in the world, we had the opportunity to buy it through importers but didn't.

We should definately make a list of all Amiga's '1st Done' achievements and maybe a list of EXCLUSIVE games that never appeared on any other format.


Even that list is shortening because I've seen alot of old Amiga games on the GBA.  Even "The Chaos Engine" had a Sega Genesis port...and possibly another system and even PC port.  Though it was called something else and it was 2 years after the Amiga version.  Brutal Deluxe was released on the GBA within the last year or so as well.
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: Hyperspeed on March 10, 2006, 06:09:15 AM
Did PayBack make it to GBA? I heard they were trying to port it...

Speedball 2 was also rumoured.
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: Louis Dias on March 18, 2006, 07:56:40 PM
I know Speedball was released last year.
Title: Re: UFO:Enemy Unknown CD32
Post by: adolescent on March 19, 2006, 12:57:26 AM
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Hyperspeed wrote:
Did PayBack make it to GBA? I heard they were trying to port it...


Payback was finally released for the GBA last year (at least in Europe).  I haven't been able to find a copy in the US yet.