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Coffee House => Coffee House Boards => CH / Entertainment => Topic started by: iamaboringperson on February 14, 2006, 11:38:53 PM
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(http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/8418/muhummad029tm.jpg)
:-)
Do you like it?
Do you like it?
Do you like it?
Huh? Hmm...? It's good isn't it!
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Don't give up your day job.
Some satire examples
Sitcoms for Mohammed (pbuh) (http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1898359)
My favorites are:
"Allah in the Family"
"I dream of Jihad"
"Chico and the Iman"
"Dy-no-mite" (Good Times)
"All in the Fatwa"
"Emeril Live"
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How old are you?
Still not getting any I see.
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You need a life! :-D
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iamaboringperson wrote:
It's good isn't it!
Indeed, I am sure many will agree it is your finest artistic endeavour to date.
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A case study in my assertion that the issue of crayons should be supervised.
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im putting a jihad on you now, boy!!
ps. CIA,FBI,MI5/6 : i am only joking
@metalman,
Dont you just love it when people with an agenda try to be funny.. ho ho ho that link cracked me up!
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Got halfway down the list and lost the will to live.
Even the attempts to use US pop-cultural icons in a satirical way backfires, showing how crass US culture is.
My only regret in criticising is that it incidentally moves this thread back up the list.
Rather than 'satirical' I'd call it cheap, dumb racist crap.
Here (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.chgs.umn.edu/Histories__Narratives__Documen/Visualizing_Otherness_Set_1/Visualizing_Otherness_Set_2/postcard.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.chgs.umn.edu/Histories__Narratives__Documen/Visualizing_Otherness_Set_1/Visualizing_Otherness_Set_2/visualizing_otherness_set_2.html&h=418&w=558&sz=47&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=SYeD0Lz7OXZM2M:&tbnh=98&tbnw=131&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnazi%2Bjew%2Bcaricature%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official_s%26sa%3DG) are some of a similar ilk someone prepared earlier.
Ohh, I forgot - it's ok to caricature moslems - that's not racist bigotry. My mistake.
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Isn't that Robin Hood?
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Boot_WB wrote:
Got halfway down the list and lost the will to live.
Even the attempts to use US pop-cultural icons in a satirical way backfires, showing how crass US culture is.
My only regret in criticising is that it incidentally moves this thread back up the list.
Rather than 'satirical' I'd call it cheap, dumb racist crap.
Here (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.chgs.umn.edu/Histories__Narratives__Documen/Visualizing_Otherness_Set_1/Visualizing_Otherness_Set_2/postcard.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.chgs.umn.edu/Histories__Narratives__Documen/Visualizing_Otherness_Set_1/Visualizing_Otherness_Set_2/visualizing_otherness_set_2.html&h=418&w=558&sz=47&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=SYeD0Lz7OXZM2M:&tbnh=98&tbnw=131&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnazi%2Bjew%2Bcaricature%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official_s%26sa%3DG) are some of a similar ilk someone prepared earlier.
Ohh, I forgot - it's ok to caricature moslems - that's not racist bigotry. My mistake.
Whaoh.
That's quite a rant, and I'm not 100% sure what you're on about, but I'll see if I can address a couple of points.
What's with the 'US culture' bit?
You call it racist and point out some anti-Jewish stuff, however I'm not exactly sure as to why a depiction of Muhammed is racist? Surely we can draw Muhammed?
Ohh, I forgot - it's ok to caricature moslems - that's not racist bigotry. My mistake.
What race is a Moslem?
Man, if we were to follow every rule about which religous characters we can't draw, then every time a person says that their purple dinosoar/big man in the sky/little grub with big hands/girl waving a flag can't be drawn, that's one less character that we may draw. Might as well ban drawing.
I'm not a Muslem. And, as a non-Muslem, I'm not going to be pushed around as to what I may draw and what I may not.
Next week... big 'pee pee's' and breasts...
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Boot_WB wrote:
Got halfway down the list and lost the will to live.
Even the attempts to use US pop-cultural icons in a satirical way backfires, showing how crass US culture is.
My only regret in criticising is that it incidentally moves this thread back up the list.
Rather than 'satirical' I'd call it cheap, dumb racist crap.
Here (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.chgs.umn.edu/Histories__Narratives__Documen/Visualizing_Otherness_Set_1/Visualizing_Otherness_Set_2/postcard.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.chgs.umn.edu/Histories__Narratives__Documen/Visualizing_Otherness_Set_1/Visualizing_Otherness_Set_2/visualizing_otherness_set_2.html&h=418&w=558&sz=47&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=SYeD0Lz7OXZM2M:&tbnh=98&tbnw=131&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnazi%2Bjew%2Bcaricature%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official_s%26sa%3DG) are some of a similar ilk someone prepared earlier.
Ohh, I forgot - it's ok to caricature moslems - that's not racist bigotry. My mistake.
Satire is, by definition, crass. Sometimes it provokes it in reponse too.
Ima is Australian.
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As a practising Muslim I feel compelled to put forward my point of view.
I believe that Iama has a right to draw whatever pictures he wants to draw, and would fight to the death (Jihad I suppose) for his right to do so (To paraphrase Voltaire).
I also believe that he is a tit for drawing this and posting it here.
It serves no purpose other than intentionally trying to provoke an angry reaction from Muslims.
On the race bit I also agree with Iama.
My passsport says White British on it.
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T_Bone wrote:
Isn't that Robin Hood?
Naah, Robin Hood was handsome.
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nicholas a/k/a mdma wrote:
I believe that Iama has a right to draw whatever pictures he wants to draw, and would fight to the death (Jihad I suppose) for his right to do so (To paraphrase Voltaire).
I also believe that he is a tit for drawing this and posting it here.
There might be at least one Muslim holding a sign that quotes Voltaire somewhere at this protest (28 photos)
Mohammed Cartoons - Muslim Reactions in London (http://www.middleeastfacts.com/Gallery/displayimage.php?album=9&pos=9)
There does seem to be a theme to the signs, but it doesn't seem that Voltaire is on the slogan list.
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@metalman
Why do you keep calling him nicholas a/k/a mdma? We all know who nicholas is, you know :-)
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Karlos wrote:
@metalman
Why do you keep calling him nicholas a/k/a mdma? We all know who nicholas is, you know :-)
greeting the alter ego's, Buddhists believe in rebirth ;-)
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@all
My bad - should have put "@metalman, nadoom" at the top of the posting. The posting was in reference to the link posted by metalman as examples of 'satire,' and which 'cracked .. up' nadoom, not to the picture posted by iama.
iamaboringperson wrote:
Whaoh.
That's quite a rant, and I'm not 100% sure what you're on about, but I'll see if I can address a couple of points.
What's with the 'US culture' bit?
Apologies Iamaboringperson, whilst I personally found your post rather infantile and took no offense in it personally I can see that it would be offensive to some particaularly at the moment.
My post was actually referring to metalman's reply, or rather the website he linked to as being 'funny'
You call it racist and point out some anti-Jewish stuff, however I'm not exactly sure as to why a depiction of Muhammed is racist? Surely we can draw Muhammed?
What race is a Moslem?
What race is a jew? Anti-semitism, Anti-islamism - same thing different decade. Racism-Creedism - same thing different weak excuse.
I am duly corrected and rephrase - I refer to the link as 'cheap, dumb creedist crap' and 'Ohh, I forgot - it's ok to caricature moslems - that's not creedist bigotry. My mistake.'
Racism is more easily referred to and recognised. Unfortunately creedism seems to be en vogue at the moment as a means of differentiating between the 'civilised benevolent good nice folks who use deodorant' (us) and the 'barbarian hordes who fire guns in the air and smell bad' (them).
Man, if we were to follow every rule about which religous characters we can't draw, then every time a person says that their purple dinosoar/big man in the sky/little grub with big hands/girl waving a flag can't be drawn, that's one less character that we may draw. Might as well ban drawing.
In the case of the purple dinosaur I'm all for that. God I hate that thing...
I'm not a Muslem. And, as a non-Muslem, I'm not going to be pushed around as to what I may draw and what I may not.
Next week... big 'pee pee's' and breasts...
Not trying to - perhaps you may learn to show some wisdom and restraint though when choosing what to caricature? Does a person in a dynamite factory defend his right to play with matches?
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Boot_WB wrote
My post was actually referring to metalman's reply, or rather the website he linked to as being 'funny'
SATIRE: Irony, sarcasm, or caustic wit used to attack or expose folly, vice, or stupidity; used to convey insults or scorn; A literary or artistic work in which human vice or folly is attacked through irony, derision, or wit.
There is no requirement that satire be funny, its a bonus when it is.
Boot_WB wrote
Unfortunately creedism seems to be en vogue at the moment as a means of differentiating between the 'civilised benevolent good nice folks who use deodorant' (us) and the 'barbarian hordes who fire guns in the air and smell bad' (them).
its to differentate between those who encourages violence while quoting religious verses, riot over cartoon satires, and kill apostates and those who understand in a free society you are tolerant, you don't resort to violence when your beliefs are ridiculed, and people are free to accept, reject or ridicule any religion (including $cientology).
Boot_WB wrote
In the case of the purple dinosaur I'm all for that. God I hate that thing...
So many jihad's, so little time
(http://www.jihad.net/header.gif)
Boot_WB wrote
Not trying to - perhaps you may learn to show some wisdom and restraint though when choosing what to caricature? Does a person in a dynamite factory defend his right to play with matches?
Your argument becomes equivalent to:
Artists should show wisdom and restraint and only caricature icons of religions with civilised members. Islam must not be caricatured, to avoid violence, because muslims pray in dynamite factories.
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nicholas wrote:
My passsport says White British on it.
? UK passports mention the "color" of the citizen ?
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countzero wrote:
nicholas wrote:
My passsport says White British on it.
? UK passports mention the "color" of the citizen ?
The application form does.