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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: wonea on February 14, 2006, 04:02:00 PM

Title: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: wonea on February 14, 2006, 04:02:00 PM
Right I'm fed up with waiting for "the new Amiga".  I've been waiting since 1995 for something new and great.

Does anyone have a clue about how much longer we have to wait?  I'm sick of the politics, and just want a new Amiga.  I.e. Motherboard and OS!

Love a definite date!
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: Doppie1200 on February 14, 2006, 04:09:42 PM
Imagine yourself waiting for a bus at an old bus stop, but nothing is coming.
You hear rumors from other people passing by there might be a bus coming. Still nothing comes.
After an hour or so people are mostly capable of drawing their own conclusions.

You have been waiting for ELEVEN years and you still ask us?

LOL!
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: Roman78 on February 14, 2006, 04:14:16 PM
Lol @ Doppie1200, nice complaining.

I also standing here in the rain and wait....
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: wonea on February 14, 2006, 04:18:06 PM
Are we all doomed!?  AOS4 will never be released, another dodgy geezer buys the AOS rights, hardware is poor and OS is never "quite" finished.  So in the end nothing happens.  Just more farting around with annoucements and rubbish.  Can't we have some honesty?

Or...AOS finally gets released, Hyperion go back to port mac/linux games?  What a state where in.

Sorry, I don't mean to moan.
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: VnllaThndr on February 14, 2006, 04:35:42 PM
Can I suggest a book for you?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waiting_For_Godot

It's called Waiting for Godot.

;)
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: reflect on February 14, 2006, 04:44:05 PM
You almost make it sound as if there were no OS4 at all, but the lucky ones with hardware, and I mean every one of them, all have a quite complete operating system.

Or are you more the kind that won't buy a thing unless it's shrinkwrapped on the shelf? (I know lots of people have bad experiences with beta versions, etc)
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: Phantom on February 14, 2006, 04:45:30 PM
It's not only you... and I think that you will wait for a loooooooooong time like me...

That's really bad.
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: on February 14, 2006, 05:04:23 PM
To take the "Bus Stop" analogy further I would suggest that like me you walk down to the local car dealership and buy a car. It may be more stressful and harder to use but at least you will have transport. Then after twenty years or so if you read in the newspapers that the buses are running again consider going back.

Dont wait for the bus. There has not been one for ten years and one is not likely for another ten.

Bubble
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: wonea on February 14, 2006, 05:16:01 PM
Would be nice if it was shrinkwrapped.  But being able to buy AOS4 and hardware in the first place would be nice!  The lucky few are, very lucky!

Is there any Hyperion commentry, on how the hardware sides of things is going?  The obvious way to recoup the development costs!


I heard they were testing out hydrogen buses, but they're very expensive, and hard to build.  Nevermind the maglev trains which are running on the other side of town.
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: motorollin on February 14, 2006, 05:22:29 PM
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wonea wrote:
Does anyone have a clue about how much longer we have to wait?

37 days. Or forever. I forget which.

--
moto
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: logicalheart on February 14, 2006, 05:34:11 PM
  The bus already came by three times.  If you didn't want to catch the AmigaOneSE, you could have got the AmigaOneXE.  After that, you had plenty of time to get a Micro AmigaOne.  You are waiting because you did not want to get on the bus.
  There are already many satisfied customers including myself.  I love OS4, and use it every day.  Whatever the next hardware is that supports OS4, I will buy it to have a second machine.  I hope you also come and enjoy when you get another opportunity.  - Lars
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: reflect on February 14, 2006, 06:14:51 PM
Hah, that's true. I didn't think of it like that. Then not to forget the different production runs, they weren't all made in one go either.
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: Skyrunner on February 14, 2006, 06:29:21 PM
Do you really mean you were waiting all this time? aaahahaaaa
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: Savan on February 14, 2006, 06:40:05 PM
@logicalheart

The bus came quite a few times but was sabotaged by the driver (alan redhouse), now that piece of garbage has (hopefully) left the Amiga scene, new hardware can come out and people can be happy again.
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: Boudicca on February 14, 2006, 06:44:52 PM
AmigaOne = Bus....more like pic below as an Omnibus in Stealth.

I have a Copy of Interface Age by my side here with a lovely pictures of a computers and boards that drove the Wild West of the personal computer industry. Companies that risked all to get a finger in the pie of the modern age. $400s for this $400 dollars for that that like the minimig today, people doing it out of love and the hope of breaking even. Most blown to the winds and lost for eternity.

Yet some we know today, Apple, Intel and M$ and even Commodore...They all took risks with their products. Where they right to risk or should they have released a limited number, got them manufactured overseas, live off the hype fail to deliver the dream.

I know the garage based computer companies are a thing of the past, its all business, profit and promotion. But there is hope.....I have no doubt there will be an other Apple another Commodore maybe, it just needs a reason for it to happen, maybe someone one day might take that risk and clean up all the way.

Shaz


Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: Kaminari on February 14, 2006, 06:48:33 PM
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LogicalHeart wrote:
You are waiting because you did not want to get on the bus.


You're talking about a prototype bus, not a production bus. Sorry, but... between waiting forever for a production bus that doesn't look like it's gonna come anytime soon, and being stuck in a prototype bus that is already short of gas, I much prefer walking ;)
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: Doppie1200 on February 14, 2006, 07:03:27 PM
LOL! I like you all getch the bus stop philosophy. It's true! Stop waiting. Get on whatever comes by or buy a car. A bike even! Perhaps walking is better.

So much in life applies here......wait...I'm getting carried away!
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: uncharted on February 14, 2006, 08:46:54 PM
Some of us waited and waited for the shiny new bus before realizing that what we really enjoyed was riding on an old Routemaster (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4510410.stm).

So now we don't care about the new buses, we're all going on a summer Holiday on an old bus and enjoying ourselves*


*Hank Marvin is alright when you get a few drinks down him, but that Jet guy is really getting on my tits.
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: itix on February 14, 2006, 10:44:17 PM
I heard something happens in 29th feb 2006.
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: ironfist on February 14, 2006, 11:20:14 PM
Reflect:
"You almost make it sound as if there were no OS4 at all,
but the lucky ones with hardware, and I mean every one of
them, all have a quite complete operating system."


Except the high percentage with burned CPUs and only a {bleep}ty
basement-company not honoring warrantees to turn to..
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: The_Editor on February 14, 2006, 11:23:18 PM

29th February 2006 ?

( deliberate mistake or genuine {bleep}up?)
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: countzero on February 14, 2006, 11:27:41 PM
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logicalheart wrote:
  The bus already came by three times.  If you didn't want to catch the AmigaOneSE, you could have got the AmigaOneXE.  


no, it was not the bus we're waiting for. I was somekind of horse cart which had the sign/plate of the bus we're waiting for, but it was not it.
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: koaftder on February 15, 2006, 12:06:18 AM
Who knows when the short bus will arrive...
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: JKD on February 15, 2006, 12:16:29 AM
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Who knows when the short bus will arrive...


Hahhhaha...awesome....all the smart people got the early morning Pegasos Express ;-)
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: K7HTH on February 15, 2006, 12:29:51 AM
Quote

The_Editor wrote:

29th February 2006 ?

( deliberate mistake or genuine {bleep}up?)


I think he meant 26 February 2029. :-o
 
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: itix on February 15, 2006, 12:51:35 AM
@The_Editor

Genuine {bleep}up.

I have written couple of times (since 2002 or so) to BED (Blacks Editor, the best editor for amiga) maintainer asking for an update... last time when I wrote to him he was still waiting for {guess what}.

Even bug fixed OS4 only version would suffice.
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: iamaboringperson on February 15, 2006, 12:54:57 AM
HAHAHAHA!

I don't have to wait! "AOS 4.0" is already here! It's called MorphOS 1.4!! And I have it!


But I'm more interested in Linux (or Solaris) on crappy old x86 (dual core P4. har har!)!

 :-P
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: CLS2086 on February 15, 2006, 02:43:51 PM
Hum,
It's still hard to understand A. Redhouse position but there will be a new big problem for the bus, especially in Europe and in 2 or 4 years in the US (harder than the digital millenium copy act):
Soon, all materials that doesn"t include a DRM system, and that allow to copy "protected" disc or to read it with a non-licensed software we'll be illegal.
All the Amiga, all AmigaOne, all Pegasos and their software would be in this category...  :rtfm:
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: koaftder on February 15, 2006, 02:56:14 PM
Quote

CLS2086 wrote:
Hum,
It's still hard to understand A. Redhouse position but there will be a new big problem for the bus, especially in Europe and in 2 or 4 years in the US (harder than the digital millenium copy act):
Soon, all materials that doesn"t include a DRM system, and that allow to copy "protected" disc or to read it with a non-licensed software we'll be illegal.
All the Amiga, all AmigaOne, all Pegasos and their software would be in this category...  :rtfm:


Groan... Rememds when i went to watch fantastic 4 on deve latnight. There was a 30 second clip education users how criminal it is to copy the dvd. Couldnt fast forward it ( not allowed ). Then the fbi warning.

Now they are saying that with new formats, you will need an approved monitor to get quality playback. The software will actually play a crappy signal if it doesnt like your monitor. Its going back in time, here we are with all the fancy powerful hardware, and programmers are writing code to intentionally not make use of it.

Doesnt matter anyway, people will hack it. Os4 will come out on standard hardware with a littl pripriety wedge that will get dealt with. AOS4 will probably eventually be hacked to run on a mac.
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: KThunder on February 15, 2006, 03:07:03 PM
dont wait use aros and uae morphos if you can to heck with whoever is pretending to be doing anything with os4
Title: Re: How much longer do we have to wait?
Post by: logicalheart on February 15, 2006, 06:05:29 PM

  Most of the AmigaOne hardware was produced in small quantities, but they are not "prototypes".  It feels like  I'm responding to some welfare trolls here who are waiting for someone else to make decisions for them and buy their bus ticket, and they still won't be satisfied.  - Lars