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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: highland on February 06, 2006, 11:52:16 AM

Title: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: highland on February 06, 2006, 11:52:16 AM
How do I get a disk image for the amiga on a floppy on macos X ??
Title: Re: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: Oliver on February 06, 2006, 12:25:01 PM
I'm assuming you have an Amiga, and want to transfer a disk image from it, via a floppy disk, onto your Mac.  Is that right?

What Amiga and OS do you have?  If you have anything since Workbench 2.1, you will have CrossDos built in.  You may have to activate it though.  If that is the case, you can drag a file named PC0 from your Storage/DosDrivers drawer into your Devs/DosDrivers drawer, and reboot.

You should then format a 720k dos disk, and transfer away.  You may need to use lha or similar archiving tool.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: highland on February 06, 2006, 12:52:44 PM
No I got legal adf files on my MAcosX computer and want to play them on my real amiga 500 wich has Kickstart 2 and WB 3.1
Title: Re: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: motorollin on February 06, 2006, 01:00:04 PM
Oliver's answer is still correct. You need to mount PC0 on your Amiga so it can read DOS floppies, which can also be read/written on your Mac. Format a DOS disk on a PC, put it in your Mac, copy the ADF file on to it along with transdisk from Aminet, put the floppy in your Amiga, and use transdisk to write the ADF to a disk.

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moto
Title: Re: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: Oliver on February 06, 2006, 01:00:50 PM
Oh, didn't know you could run Workbench 3.1 with Kickstart 2.  Do you soft kick?

Do you have a hard drive for the 500?  At least having multiple floppy drives may be helpful.  Otherwise, I'm not sure how you could juggle getting the .adf transferred to a real 880k amiga disk.
Title: Re: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: Oliver on February 06, 2006, 01:02:05 PM
I think the Mac can quite happily format the Dos disk.
Title: Re: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: Oliver on February 06, 2006, 01:02:57 PM
Also, do you know what utilities to use for making the .adf into a real Amiga disk?
Title: Re: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: motorollin on February 06, 2006, 01:05:47 PM
I don't know whether a disk formatted in DOS format on a Mac would work on an Amiga. I haven't got a floppy drive on my Mac to try it :-) Worth a go though. If it doesn't work just format it on a PC.

ADF2Disk (http://www.aminet.net/search.php?query=adf2disk) can be used to write the ADF back to a real Amiga floppy (sorry not transdisk as I said earlier).

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moto
Title: Re: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: highland on February 06, 2006, 01:08:49 PM
A500+ with an A590 200MB scsi HD and 2,5MB xtra ram. pretty nice setup :)
I didn't install the WB on the AMiga so I don't know how it boots 3.1 :D
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Oliver wrote:
Oh, didn't know you could run Workbench 3.1 with Kickstart 2.  Do you soft kick?

Do you have a hard drive for the 500?  At least having multiple floppy drives may be helpful.  Otherwise, I'm not sure how you could juggle getting the .adf transferred to a real 880k amiga disk.
Title: Re: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: highland on February 06, 2006, 01:21:58 PM
Ok I can get the floppy to load but the files don't show up on the miggy. How do I handle that.
Title: Re: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: Oliver on February 06, 2006, 01:24:59 PM
You probably just need to choose to show all files.  Your Workbench is probably only showing any valid icons which it can see on the disk (of which there are presumably none at this time).
Title: Re: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: motorollin on February 06, 2006, 01:39:23 PM
And make sure you are opening PC0 not DF0 :-)

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moto
Title: Re: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: highland on February 06, 2006, 01:55:24 PM
Yeah Ok that worked , now where can i find a program to extract LHA,It's all so long ago
Title: Re: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: Oliver on February 06, 2006, 02:04:20 PM
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highland wrote:
Yeah Ok that worked , now where can i find a program to extract LHA,It's all so long ago


Try Aminet.  The one I use is just called Lha, and it's a command line program.  Hope that's OK.  Otherwise, you can also download WizArc, a gui for Lha, although it's an Lha archive.  Ha.

edit- I think you will need the command line Lha program to use with WizArc.  I haven't installed it on my Amiga before.
Title: Re: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: motorollin on February 06, 2006, 02:50:46 PM
Go to Aminet and search for lha.run

Then copy this over to your Amiga and run it. It will self extract the lha executable. Copy this to C:.

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moto
Title: Re: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: Oliver on February 06, 2006, 02:57:43 PM
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motorollin wrote:
Go to Aminet and search for lha.run

Then copy this over to your Amiga and run it. It will self extract the lha executable. Copy this to C:.

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moto


But methinks one would still need to use the CLI to extract the MiraWIzArc.lha archive, right?
Title: Re: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: motorollin on February 06, 2006, 04:47:15 PM
Yup. Lha.run extracts the lha executable, which goes in C:. Then "lha x MiraWizArc.lha" extracts the WizArc application. Then you can use WizArc to more easily extract the lha archives containing the ADFs.

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moto
Title: Re: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: amigagr on February 06, 2006, 05:03:54 PM
it's like the chicken and the egg!
Title: Re: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: motorollin on February 06, 2006, 05:06:10 PM
Heh yeah, except lha.run unarchives itself :-)

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moto
Title: Re: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: Oliver on February 06, 2006, 05:08:51 PM
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motorollin wrote:
Heh yeah, except lha.run unarchives itself :-)

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moto


I think you'll also find that the chicken will unarchive itself from the egg.
Title: Re: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: motorollin on February 06, 2006, 05:13:25 PM
Only if there was a chicken in the first place to lay the egg from which the chicken hatches itself. But then there had to be an egg for that chicken to come from, which would mean.............

I could go on.

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moto
Title: Re: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: Tomas on February 06, 2006, 06:03:40 PM
Like other said.... If you do indeed have wb3.1, then you can easily read dos formatted floppies if you mount the pc0. If you have WB 3.1 installed on the HD, then you can just go into a shell and type mount pc0 and have the dos floppy inserted into the disk drive. If you do not have the OS installed on a HD, then i think you will have to copy the pc0 device from dosdrivers and onto your backuped wb3.1 startup floppy.

Remember to format the disk in 720k DD format.
Title: Re: Mac OS X to amiga
Post by: amigagr on February 06, 2006, 10:40:48 PM
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Tomas wrote:
Remember to format the disk in 720k DD format.



i think that adf files are more than 900kb in size so a 720kb floppy seams useless.

BTW, anybody knows why they didn't use dms at the very start?


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cancel the question, i think because it's compressed...