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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: TjLaZer on February 03, 2006, 04:21:18 AM
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Sigh (http://cgi.ebay.com/Amiga-3000-4000-FASTLANE-Z3-Phase5-SCSI-2-64mb-RAM-Card_W0QQitemZ8760378506QQcategoryZ4598QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
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It would have been OK if it were one of the few 256MB capable Fastlane cards, with the latest SCSI firmware and card revision, however since this is the standard, crapola version...$60USD maximum should be the price. :-)
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Can't a burned eprom upgrade make it so? Not that that would make it worth $425.00 either :-).
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@Jeff:
I'm not sure if those are eproms or custom chips on the Fastlane that need to be replaced. :-?
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holy crap!
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Hmm, don't think the market is quite that inflated. Bit of wishful thinking going on there. I don't think one of those will make a hell of a lot of difference to someone's computing power.
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It's most probably a PAL or GAL that needs to be swapped.
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Yeah I noticed that too, pfff!
Some French dude is also trying to sell a Blizzard 1240 for around 200 USD...
And who's got the 300 USD Picasso-IV going, that's a bit steep even for such a good board.
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$425.00?! For that amount of money (or even less)
you can buy yourself a CyberStorm/060 MKIII with 128MB!
Hyperspeed wrote:
And who's got the 300 USD Picasso-IV going, that's a bit steep even for such a good board.
I sold my spare P-IV to an AO dude for only €150,00
:-)
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Woohoo, that's eBay for you!!!!
HeeHee. Reminds me of the time back in 2000 that I picked me up a little PowerMac 7100, and the local computer shop said it was going to be like $300 for a motherboard. I looked at the guy and trucked my butt to eBay. :lol: I had one guy that was going to charge me like $160 one, and then I found someone selling one for $13 with shipping.
But I guess if someone is going to buy something, keep pitching coins into that wishing well.
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It is a bit depressing to see all the outrageous prices on eBay. I wonder if eBay University has a special course on jacking up Amiga hardware prices...sure seems like it.
I, for one, am not buying from these 'chop-shop' Amiga resellers anymore.
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No eBay Uninversity has a special class in buying a company that has one of the worse payment systems in the world, terrible customer service and all.
Also they have those classes in how to jack up royalties and fees for auctions, as if they aren't going to get enough money off the auctions already. Seriously, does it really cost that much bandwidth to have an auction heading in bold.
I think the prices go back to what I've said before. About people playing in the emotions of the Amiga user base. Quite a few people a very very religious when it comes to their Amiga stuff. I'm okay with some dealers that have good quality stuff and would be able to give some warranty, then a little bit of a higher price would be okay, but come on.
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Maybe they think Ted Danson will see it.
Maybe stuff like this is accruing an antique value?
Maybe somebody who wants this and can afford it will buy it.
People pay hundreds of times this price for a single postage stamp. So what.
Why do eBay's Amiga selling prices cause so much indignation? He'll either sell it or he won't.
JaX
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JaXanim wrote:
Maybe they think Ted Danson will see it.
Maybe stuff like this is accruing an antique value?
Maybe somebody who wants this and can afford it will buy it.
People pay hundreds of times this price for a single postage stamp. So what.
Why do eBay's Amiga selling prices cause so much indignation? He'll either sell it or he won't.
JaX
Well put!
The loudest expression for so-called 'inflated' prices is for one to simply keep his money folded.
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@Jax
Hey, I can't hate on people. I'm all for people getting the most out of their hardware (finacially or performance wise.)
Personally myself, I wouldn't have prices that high, because you have to pay so much to eBay in regards to there extortion like listing fees. I normally listed stuff to sell. Stuff don't make money sitting in a box. Other then that I'm just making idle chat, because I have no job and am bored.
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Hmm, I don't know that anyone's really all that indignant, it's just a silly price, that's all.
@justthatgood: I've had the same experience with Mac re-sellers quite often. Mac prices are just rediculus in my city. A company was selling second hand ram for my 6100 for ~$300 for 64MB, but then I can buy a second hand G3 tower for that price, or even pick up an 8100 which people occaisionally discard on street verge rubbish collections. Well, I know the old Mac upgrades are not so common, but I think that's silly too. And no, I'm not indignant, I'm just wasting time.
-Oli
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It's bizarre that one of the highest prices in the world is an A500 with a box of disks. "The Worlds Greatest Setup" or something, it says.
Forget the A4000T with video toaster in 2nd place...
A500 - Buy It Now! 950 Aussie dollars!
:-D
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This is the third or forth time in the last month that this board has been put on auction. Each time the "By it Now" Price has been higher. The first three times there was no minimum bid, but a reserve price which was never met. The first couple of auctions ended in the $80 to $100 range if I remember right. The seller didn't seem to like this so now we have a super high starting bid! I just don't see how this makes sense?
Mike
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@mdivancic
Each time, the "Buy It Now" price gets higher to cover the shipping, handling, and the money lost buy the listing price. As I said, unless you are very very sure you are going to sell something and/or it's very valuble(rare) don't list high.
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eBay is not always bad. I have goten many items at a great price somtime less then half of what you pay in the store. Electronics in particular can be a great deal.
Amiga owners seem to be an exception to this rule I have seen Amiga items go for twice what they should be and I remember the Guy in Calgary Canada selling a top of the line eccelorator fully loaded for $1500 I dont think he sold it but :-o.
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Maybe the guy just likes to read about all the fuss he causes on A.Org. Actually selling the stuff would be counter productive.
Remember A.org members did a great job promoting another eBay nutter until he was so legendary he now has a growing band of faithful followers and his own chatshow. Genius!
JaX
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Well all she does is buy and resell Amiga parts for high prices. Must be nice.
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I think I have seen this person list a Fastlane at least twice now. Both times the card "sold", and each time it is listed again the starting bid and buy-it-now prices are higher. Either this person has alot of Fastlanes, or something fishy might be happening.
To upgrade it to the 256MB version required swapping some chips on the board (Pal or gal, not sure) and replacing the eprom with a newer revision.
Realistic prices have been more around US$100-$120, though some might think that overpriced as well. Considering the other ram upgrade paths, it's not bad. The 30pin 4MB simms can usually be picked up real cheap on Ebay in lots. So for maybe US$130 or less you pick up an additional 64MB fast ram and in a 4000D, a good SCSI controller.
-David
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dnelsonfl wrote:
I think I have seen this person list a Fastlane at least twice now. Both times the card "sold", and each time it is listed again the starting bid and buy-it-now prices are higher. Either this person has alot of Fastlanes, or something fishy might be happening.
To upgrade it to the 256MB version required swapping some chips on the board (Pal or gal, not sure) and replacing the eprom with a newer revision.
Realistic prices have been more around US$100-$120, though some might think that overpriced as well. Considering the other ram upgrade paths, it's not bad. The 30pin 4MB simms can usually be picked up real cheap on Ebay in lots. So for maybe US$130 or less you pick up an additional 64MB fast ram and in a 4000D, a good SCSI controller.
-David
Maybe he's buying them from himself so it appears that the price isnt inflated when people go out to check what the general going price is on the hardware... Seems like a waste of time to me for just one item though...
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Maybe he's buying them from himself so it appears that the price isnt inflated when people go out to check what the general going price is on the hardware... Seems like a waste of time to me for just one item though...
That's just insane though. Because according to a lot of rules and stuff from the Federal Trade Commission, shill bidding is construed as felony actions. Yeah, it is theft, because other bidders wouldn't have had to pay the price they did because the "ghost" bidder wouldn't have exisited.
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They didn't sell because the reserve was never covered. Check this out...
http://search-completed.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=so&sbrftog=1&fstype=1&from=R10&satitle=amiga+z3&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=28056&fis=2&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&so=Show+Items
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mdivancic wrote:
They didn't sell because the reserve was never covered. Check this out...
Ahh, that explains it. And the highest bids on those auctions look more realistic. Greed at work here, eh?
-David