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Title: Flying Saucer...
Post by: blobrana on January 26, 2006, 02:43:10 PM
Hum,
Since the age of the 1950s B-movies, flying saucers have been the vehicle of choice for any discerning alien. Looking like a cross between a metal hubcap and a glow-in-the-dark frisbee, these strange spacecraft have fascinated us for decades. Whether you accept Area 51 or reject the Roswell Incident, there's still a chance you may see a flying saucer in the not too distant future. However, rather than carrying extra-terrestrials from other planets, the saucer could be transporting you round the Earth.

A lone inventor has managed to create a stabile flying craft in his workshop.
Nasa and various other government agencies are eager to buy into the technology.

The principle used to create the stability is down to the shape of the  saucer.
In the same way that water from a tap bends  around a spoon, the down draft of air creates a  self-levelling craft.

The inventor, who is a model airplane builder, hope to create a larger version. With a full size craft able to carry a person produced in 2008.

(No link - anyone got a link...?)
Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: AJS on January 26, 2006, 10:05:59 PM
@Blobrana
Is this what your looking for?Flying Saucer (http://www.futurehorizons.net/saucer.htm)

regards
Andy
Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: blobrana on January 27, 2006, 01:20:21 PM
Hum,
Tnx for the link.
But no, not that one....

This one can hover and take off vertically and land vertically.

Nasa had tried such devices in the 70s but failed with the stability aspect.
Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: Hyperspeed on January 28, 2006, 02:23:43 AM
That page is nuts.

I bet whoever designed that 'hoverboard' also loves wrestling, log cutting and chequered shirts.

I particularly like the plasma-sabre section where you can buy your own swirling, humming jedi stick. For $390 though the force would definately on your wallet be!
Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: blobrana on January 28, 2006, 04:16:52 AM
Hi,
yeah.
i was drawn to the DIY Time Portals...

If you wish to travel physically through time, then this is the report for you. Shows you how to construct several different Time Portals including the  Hyperdimensional Grid Point, which is essentially 2 opposing Hyperdimensional Resonator coils. Also contains information on how to construct an artificial grid point and background information on Radionics and on Nikola Tesla.

ONLY 30 DOLLARS! - (So once i got the plans i can just photocopy  it and send it back to myself so that i don`t need to buy it...)
Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: Hyperspeed on January 28, 2006, 11:10:48 AM
Hah!

It's amazing with half these gadgets how they haven't become billionaires.

Could it be that they were ripped out of a Star Trek annual and don't actually work? I notice every page tells you how to make your own and sells the plans for $19.95.

I really like the one where you give a device 16 volts and it gives you back 23 volts. Sounds a bit like something they'd stick on a Las Vegas casino door.

blobrana, what were you doing up at 4:16am... I left Amiga.org at about 2:00am when the only other person sitting here was Wayne! Have you set the alarm properly on your interdimensional time device?
Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: Doobrey on January 28, 2006, 03:08:14 PM
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blobrana wrote:

ONLY 30 DOLLARS! - (So once i got the plans i can just photocopy  it and send it back to myself so that i don`t need to buy it...)


Even better, send them back to a time before this guy started selling these plans, then sue him for copyright infringement and start selling them yourself  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: Hyperspeed on January 28, 2006, 03:36:46 PM
Personally I think all flying saucers are just launch vehicle debris falling back to Earth. If a military satellite wasn't scheduled it'll be for spying so they'll make up a story about extra terrestrials to put us off the scent (although lately the trend seems to be launching satellites to monitor global warming and heal the world).

As for paranormal occurences where people experience losing time and witnessing grotesque creatures, that'll be down to surfing Amiga.org on an AGA chipset.
Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: blobrana on January 28, 2006, 08:27:52 PM
>>Have you set the alarm properly on your interdimensional time device?

Hum,
i wanted to catch Saturn (http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0601/saturnetempete250106_2.jpg)...Yesterday it was the closest to earth for this year;
It was cloudy before, so i  waited till there was a break in the clouds....

Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: Hyperspeed on January 28, 2006, 09:35:42 PM
I remember last year setting up my camcorder on a tripod to film Mars when it was just 56m miles away, the closest this century or something they said. Well I zoomed in (this thing only had 22x optical) and I filmed it for hours.

When you fast forwarded you could see the planet moving out of the field of view, dunno if this was the earth moving or Mars. It was a deep pink colour and I was delighted.

Turns out it wasn't Mars but Jupiter or Venus (I was filming the wrong side of the sky!).

Thank God I wasn't filming Uranus. That would have been a 'bummer'.
Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: Doobrey on January 28, 2006, 11:43:36 PM
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Hyperspeed wrote:
Thank God I wasn't filming Uranus. That would have been a 'bummer'.


A bad joke like that is usually followed with a 'rimshot' ;-)

cue the tumbleweed
Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: blobrana on January 29, 2006, 12:59:48 AM
Cue the Wind (http://simplythebest.net/sounds/WAV/sound_effects_WAV/sound_effect_WAV_files/wind.wav)
Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: Hyperspeed on January 29, 2006, 01:18:46 AM
http://www.amiga.org/gallery/photo.php?lid=2464
Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: Red_Melons on January 29, 2006, 12:42:42 PM
Just as the 'stealth' planes were developed from captured German technology - the Horten flying wing (http://aerostories.free.fr/constructeurs/horten/page2.html), flying saucers may also have been developed from German circular-wing craft (http://www.members.tripod.com/uforeview/naziufo.html)

Together with U.S. government confiscation of secret Nazi anti-gravity technology (http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/2002/aug/m05-005.shtml), who knows what is being worked on over there?
Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: odin on January 29, 2006, 12:59:32 PM
And what the hell does a flying wing have to do with stealth technology. :lol:
Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: blobrana on January 29, 2006, 01:14:29 PM
Hum,
so, no one know anything about this new invention?
Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: Red_Melons on January 29, 2006, 01:45:50 PM
@odin:

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what the hell does a flying wing have to do with stealth technology
(there should have been a question mark at the end by the way)

Wikipedia - Flying Wing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_wing)

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Interest in the flying wing configuration was renewed in the 1980s as a way to design aircraft with low radar reflection cross-sections.Stealth technology relies on shapes which only reflect radar waves in certain directions, thus making the aircraft hard to detect unless the radar receiver is at a specific position relative to the aircraft - a position that changes continuously as the aircraft moves. The tailplanes and engine intakes of a conventional jet, and especially its round fuselage, reflect radar in all directions, while the flat and nearly-horizontal surface of a flying wing only reflects radar in a couple of specific directions. In addition, if the edges of the wings are straight rather than curved, then they only reflect radar at angles perpendicular to these straight segments, rather than in all directions. This approach eventually led to the Northrop B-2 Spirit stealth bomber. In this case, the aerodynamic advantages of the flying wing are not the primary needs. However, modern computer-controlled fly-by-wire systems allowed for many of the aerodynamic drawbacks of the flying wing to be minimized, making for an efficient and (artifically) stable long-range bomber.


I hope that helps to answer your question.
Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: Red_Melons on January 29, 2006, 01:58:40 PM
@blobrana

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no one know anything about this new invention?


I think the problem is that claims like this are made regularly, throughout the world:

Vladivostok News (http://vn.vladnews.ru/Arch/2002/ISS328/News/upd12.HTM)
Duanyuan, China (http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/11/28/MNGEBA1BHJ1.DTL)
Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: Hyperspeed on January 29, 2006, 03:35:41 PM
Any old monkey could fly an F117a because it can't be controlled unless the computer is there doing the maths. It's so un-aerodynamic a simple blast of EMF could be sufficient to take out the computer and thus down the plane.

There was another Russian flying wing that looked a bit like the UFO from Independance Day, a sort of pointed disc with counter-rotating turbine and a shape that induced lift. I think it was stored in some old hangar used for that giant seaplane/bomber the communists built.

Those petrol hoverboards would really 'take off' if they hit the shops though.

;-)
Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: Hyperspeed on February 25, 2006, 04:14:54 AM
http://www.digital-audio.net/_aude/animan/uranus.mp3
http://www.digital-audio.net/_aude/animan/yakkos_universe.mp3


EDIT:
http://www.mickeyrooney.com/
Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: Tigger on February 25, 2006, 06:25:21 AM
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And what the hell does a flying wing have to do with stealth technology.


Pretty much nothing, though Wikapedia is spreading the old rumor again I see.   Though the B2s airframe owes homage to previous Northrop efforts B-35 in particular, in reality the reason both the B2 & the cancelled A12 used the type of airframe is tests done on the SR71 and its variants during the Vietnam war, until it turns a 71 is virtually invisable.     In addition, the F-117, a much more successful stealth aircraft is based all on Russian Mathematics that were probably accidentally published.  Ben Richs book has that and alot more if you are really interested.
     -Tig

   
Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: Doobrey on February 25, 2006, 04:17:35 PM
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Hyperspeed wrote:
... I think it was stored in some old hangar used for that giant seaplane/bomber the communists built.


Do you mean those giant ekranoplans? I'd like to see them try to use one as a bomber..they only 'flew' a couple of metres above sea level :lol:
Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: asian1 on February 27, 2006, 08:44:53 PM
Is this related to the project?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Townsend_Brown

There is an experiment in Canada that send electric power to airplane using microwave: SHARP project.

http://www.crc.ca/en/html/crc/home/mediadesk/sharp.html

Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: blobrana on February 27, 2006, 10:14:13 PM
Hum,
i remembered he was a British inventor.
And he was  in negotiations with  three  foreign defence departments to develop the device.

(Though, personally, if it were me,  i would sell it to a toy manufacturer - as it would make a good indoor toy...)
Title: Re: Flying Saucer...
Post by: asian1 on February 28, 2006, 02:21:54 AM
> Toys

There are self levelling Gyros with 4 rotors:

http://www.airdyn.com/roswell.shtml

http://www.silverlit.com/