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Title: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: PlymWS on January 21, 2006, 02:29:57 PM
I've just bought a 3Com network card for my A1200 I found in the loft.  The computer works fine and I have transferred files using Amiga Explorer fine.

I have installed the software that came with the card (cardreset and cardpatch) along with the 3c589 device driver.  I have also installed Miami network program on the Amiga.

When I try and setup the card to access my network, I try and set the device to networks/3c589.device as per the Miami instructions, but I get an error message saying the device can not be found and that the device may be in use.

What have I done wrong ?
Title: Re: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: LawlessPPC on January 21, 2006, 02:41:05 PM
go to prepcard in tools and see if that can see the card if not it isnt inserted right. Also check that C:Cardreset is in startup asweel as cardpatch
Title: Re: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: PlymWS on January 21, 2006, 02:47:18 PM
Comes up as unknown in PrepCard.  Does this mean it's knackered or is it a driver not installed properly ?

Ive put C:cardpatch in my s:startup-sequence and c:cardreset in s:user-startup
Title: Re: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: LawlessPPC on January 21, 2006, 02:56:58 PM
you need to put
C:CardPatch
C:CardReset TICKS 50

at the begining of your startup sequence

not in user-startup
Title: Re: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: PlymWS on January 21, 2006, 03:32:19 PM
Done that.  Still unrecognised.
Title: Re: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: ncafferkey on January 21, 2006, 07:50:35 PM
Is pccard.library installed in LIBS:? Also, try running modemtest from Aminet to see if the card is OK.
Title: Re: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: Chain on January 21, 2006, 08:33:16 PM
not networks/3c589.device, just 3c589.device in miami window
Title: Re: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: PlymWS on January 23, 2006, 01:37:18 PM
OK.  I've completely reinstalled the OS on the Amiga and started again.

I have put cardpatch and cardreset in C.  I have installed 3c589 using the installer.  I have also installed pccard.library using the installer.

Reboot.  PrepCard still reports Unknown card.
Title: Re: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: leofoe on January 23, 2006, 02:07:16 PM
I have several A1200's running with the 3C589. However I use AmiTCP as TCP-stack. No problems whatsoever. I do not use Cardpatch nor Cardreset.
Title: Re: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: PlymWS on January 23, 2006, 02:12:06 PM
Tried modemtest and it returned "Couldn't read FUNCID"

Title: Re: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: Boot_WB on January 23, 2006, 02:53:52 PM
Hi,

Hate to point to 'the usual suspect' but I had problems with Miami not recognising my 3c589 when I had a power shortage.  Are you running other devices, for example a hard drive and/or accelerator?  
If it is a pwer issue you may find you have the same problem with your serial port also.

May be something else entirely, but this is the problem I had.

PS - The only thing I installed (above os3.9) was the 3c589 installation package, which you've already got.  This installs the driver in devs:networks, so yes - you are right to put networks/3c589.device into miami.

EDIT<<<>>>
-my mistake, it is required.

Prepcard will NOT recognise this card - the prepcard utility is only for installing memory cards into the pcmcia, and configuring them.  
All you need to do is point miami to the driver - no extra utilities, no extra libraries.

Try disconnecting something power hungry (eg accelerator) and see if miami picks it up then.  IF you can, try the card on a laptop aswell to make sure you are not wasting your time.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: PlymWS on January 23, 2006, 03:20:03 PM
OK.  Plugged the card into my laptop and it works fine. I've also wiped my HD and reinstalled the WB disks.  My serial port works fine becuase I can transfer files from my PC to my A1200 using Amiga Explorer.

I'll install Miami and remove the Blizzard card from the trapdoor and see what happens.
Title: Re: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: amigakit on January 23, 2006, 03:37:40 PM
Do you want to purchase just the EasyNet software (http://easynet.amigakit.com) that we bundle with NETPCM003 (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=116) PCMCIA network card?

Title: Re: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: alexh on January 23, 2006, 04:06:08 PM
You sure that you are inserting the card all the way? When I first started using PCMCIA cards on the Amiga I didnt realise how much force you needed to push them home.
Title: Re: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: PlymWS on January 23, 2006, 04:19:44 PM
I would rather not buy anything as I know this works with freely available software.  And I know the card is not configured properly because the green light does not come on at all.

The card is instered correctly because PrepCard changes from No Card Inserted to Unrecognised when I put it in.
Title: Re: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: Boot_WB on January 23, 2006, 05:54:16 PM
Silly question, but I notice you haven't mentioned the model of the network card - is it a 3c589 (or 3cec589, or 3cxe589) card?

PS - Shameless plug, amigakit.   :roll:  :lol:
Title: Re: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: amigakit on January 23, 2006, 06:22:14 PM
I know, but one thing this thread highlights is how it isn't that easy to network an Amiga.  With broadband being mainstream now and home networks being common, the Amiga needs to be easier to add onto the network.  This is what inspires the EasyNet (http://easynet.amigakit.com) project (new release due 10th Feb)
Title: Re: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: Boot_WB on January 23, 2006, 06:49:39 PM
@Amigakit

btw - OT: Have you thought about getting some USB - IDE cables in to sell with the spiders/Subways you have in stock? I was surprised to not find them on the website.
Title: Re: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: PlymWS on January 23, 2006, 07:11:36 PM
The card is a 3Com 10 Mbps LAN card for 10BASE-T

The model number on the back is 3CCE589ET
Title: Re: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: amigagr on January 23, 2006, 08:06:02 PM
@Boot_WB: that's a good idea :-)
Title: Re: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: leofoe on January 23, 2006, 08:13:37 PM
These PCMCIA-cards should work with the Amiga 600/1200 (sorry about the layout):

   Company                       Model

   3Com                          3C562
                                 3C562B
                                 3C562C
                                 3C562D
                                 3C563B
                                 3C563C
                                 3C563D
                                 3C589
                                 3C589B
                                 3C589C
                                 3C589D

   3Com Megahertz                3C3FEM556C
                                 3CCE589EC
                                 3CCE589ET
                                 3CCEM556
                                 3CCEM556B
                                 3CXE589D
                                 3CXE589EC
                                 3CXEM556

   Farallon/Netopia              EtherMac/EtherWave PN595-TP
                                 EtherMac/EtherWave PN595-C

   Hitachi                       HT-4840-13

   Motorola                      Marquis
   
WIRELESS
Company/Brand Model            Bus Works FCC ID

3Com      AirConnect         PCMCIA   No
            
Apple    AirPort              PCMCIA   No

Archtek      see SmartLink

AT&T        see Lucent

Avaya     World Card         PCMCIA   Maybe

Buffalo   WLI-PCM-S11         PCMCIA   Maybe
          WLI-PCM-L11         PCMCIA   Yes   IMRWLPCE24H
          WLI-PCM-L11G      PCMCIA   Yes

Cabletron RoamAbout 802.11 DS      PCMCIA   Maybe

IBM       26P8030/26P8087         PCMCIA   Yes

Intel      PRO/Wireless 2011      PCMCIA   No

Lucent Tech.   WaveLAN version 2.0      PCMCIA   No
      Orinoco   Bronze         PCMCIA   Yes
      Orinoco   Gold           PCMCIA   Yes
      Orinoco   Silver         PCMCIA   Yes
      Orinoco WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11(b)   PCMCIA   Maybe

Melco   see Buffalo

Microsoft}   MN-520            PCMCIA   Yes   HEDACC3501D68

NCR      see Lucent

SmartLink   WE300-IF         PCMCIA   Yes   O6M-WE300

SMC         SMC2632W         PCMCIA   Maybe
      SMC2632W V.2           PCMCIA   No

Sony Vaio PCWA-C100         PCMCIA   Yes
       Vaio PCWA-C150S      PCMCIA   Yes   AK8PCWAC150S

Unex      NexAir MR011-001      PCMCIA   Yes
Buffalo   WLI-PCM-S11         PCMCIA   Maybe
          WLI-PCM-L11         PCMCIA   Yes   IMRWLPCE24H
          WLI-PCM-L11G      PCMCIA   Yes

Cabletron RoamAbout 802.11 DS      PCMCIA   Maybe

IBM       26P8030/26P8087         PCMCIA   Yes

Intel      PRO/Wireless 2011      PCMCIA   No

Lucent Tech.   WaveLAN version 2.0      PCMCIA   No
      Orinoco   Bronze         PCMCIA   Yes
      Orinoco   Gold           PCMCIA   Yes
      Orinoco   Silver         PCMCIA   Yes
      Orinoco WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11(b)   PCMCIA   Maybe

Melco   see Buffalo

Microsoft}   MN-520            PCMCIA   Yes   HEDACC3501D68

NCR      see Lucent

SmartLink   WE300-IF         PCMCIA   Yes   O6M-WE300

SMC         SMC2632W         PCMCIA   Maybe
      SMC2632W V.2           PCMCIA   No

Sony Vaio PCWA-C100         PCMCIA   Yes
       Vaio PCWA-C150S      PCMCIA   Yes   AK8PCWAC150S

Unex      NexAir MR011-001      PCMCIA   Yes
Title: Re: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: PlymWS on January 23, 2006, 08:21:14 PM
Right, I'm giving up on this.  It's taken too much time, just to transfer some files over.

Instead, I am looking to get a memory card to go in there instead.  If I got one, would I be able to plug it into the PC, copy files to it and then read it using CrossDOS or similar ?

If so, can anyone recommend where to buy a card from ?
Title: Re: Problems with 3com PCMCIA network card
Post by: Tomas on February 04, 2006, 04:36:02 AM
Quote

PlymWS wrote:
Right, I'm giving up on this.  It's taken too much time, just to transfer some files over.

Instead, I am looking to get a memory card to go in there instead.  If I got one, would I be able to plug it into the PC, copy files to it and then read it using CrossDOS or similar ?

If so, can anyone recommend where to buy a card from ?

If all you want is being able to transfer files, then why not use a cd-rw cd for that purpose?