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Title: Favourite chiptune
Post by: on April 11, 2003, 11:06:09 PM
What is everyones fave chiptune then?

Mine is Clarke2.mod (http://www.modarchive.com/cgi-bin/download.cgi/C/clarke2.mod)

no hangon, it's Ocean Loader,

no wait a minute, it's Comic Bakery

or is it the old Vision Factory (http://sfx.paradogs.com/mods/visionfactory.zip) intro tune, or is it the Paranoimia (http://sfx.paradogs.com/remix/Paranoimia.zip) intro tune???

Oh, it's too difficult! :-)

I have DJ'd house and oldskool hardcore for ten years, but  to this day nothing sounds better to these tired old ears than a good old chiptune!
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: on April 11, 2003, 11:34:01 PM
What about the Pseudo-Ops (http://sfx.paradogs.com/mods/pseudo_ops.zip) crack tune, or the famous Karsten Obarski (http://sfx.paradogs.com/mods/mix.zip) soundtracker tune


Oh, theres too many..... I'm on a nostalgia trip tonight!!   :-D

My son's fast asleep and I'm on my own, so I'm trawling the net for memories!

Anyone interested in a retro style chip-disk??  It would be Linux/Windows (Take your pick boys and girls), but I could give the source to someone to convert to Amiga if they wanted.

-edit-

Anyone up for doing some 32colour old-skool gfx for it?  I'me sh!te at graphics so it could be an amiga.org collaboration.
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: on April 12, 2003, 01:25:13 AM
Am I the only old-skooler on here tonight?
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: iamaboringperson on April 12, 2003, 03:10:48 AM
does that include SID's?
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: Darth_X on April 12, 2003, 04:21:09 AM
SIDS are definately chiptunes. Most MODs are not true chiptunes. :-D


MODs are music files that contain pre-recorded audio Samples (8 or 16bit usually) and tracks (MIDI note like data ).. so you have 'trackers' to create songs.


SIDS are songs that use the built-in capabilities of the sound chip (FM synthesis usually) generated in realtime..   hence 'chiptunes'.



OctaMED Sound Studio is cool because you have the capabilities to create MOD type songs that include synthesized instruments (though somewhat limited). You could actually create an OctaMED song that was all synthesized instruments, hence a chiptune. :-D


heh.. and I don't have a favorite chiptune at the moment cause I like of the ones I hear. :-D

Because of my work schedule and so on, I haven't had a chance to look at this:
http://www.arts-project.org/ (http://www.arts-project.org/)
(If you have more time than me, please check this out and tell me what you think, we might want to port something like this)
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: iamaboringperson on April 12, 2003, 04:28:11 AM
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SIDS are definately chiptunes. Most MODs are not true chiptunes.
well in that case i definently LOVE the  music from the following C64 games:
Cybernoid
Cybernoid II
Dynamoid
Stormlord & Deliverence

and the list goes on...
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: Calen on April 12, 2003, 05:26:48 AM
Both versions of the Ocean Loaders, Last Ninja Trilogy, Myth.
SID Just rocked!  to many to list if i was to pick all my favs.
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: on April 12, 2003, 12:15:56 PM
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SIDS are songs that use the built-in capabilities of the sound chip (FM synthesis usually) generated in realtime.. hence 'chiptunes'.


I'll have to correct you there.

The SID chip was well before FM synthesis, it was subtractive/additive synthesis.

The term Chip-Tune was coined in the early nineties as a generic name for an Amiga Sound/Noise/Pro-Tracker module done with short synth like noises and plenty of FX to make the sound like it was infact synthesised.

Ocean Loader 2 on the c64 is one of the best ever SID tunes, but Sanxxion and Commando and Green Beret are also fantastic IMHO.

Wth regard to aRTs, I think someone (Maybe the guy who does AHII?) should implement support for the VST plugin standard.  It's been done on BeOS and the source is open I think.

Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: ple3003 on April 12, 2003, 12:57:35 PM
while were at it:
Skid Row - Dream Off
Skid Row - L. .
Radix - Bright Eyes
Radix - Imaginary Friend
Radix - Tpolmboy
Radix - Unreal Superhero
Maktone - class5
Martin galway - comic bakery
Supremacy, made by DRAX and also Maniacs of noise

Turrican and great giana sisters game music is two of my favourites as well. Dont no who made them though.

Just to mention a few. (most of them are mod by the way, but kind of chippy nevertheless).
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: carls on April 12, 2003, 01:11:45 PM
SIDs:
Comic Bakery
The Great Giana Sisters

MODs:
Coffe'n'Cake
The "Skogens djur" chip pack from 3LE

XM/S3M:
Lamedoskpop (From the FLT Music X-Mas Chip pack)

Other:
Leaving LCP, Going to LCP, Summer of 89 (made on Gameboy by p r o d u k t)
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: Bezzen on April 12, 2003, 03:51:19 PM
SID:
The Commando theme

MOD:
Banana Boat!  :-D
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: Darth_X on April 12, 2003, 04:15:47 PM
> I'll have to correct you there. The SID chip was well before FM synthesis, it was subtractive/additive synthesis.

My Bad! :-D hehe.. at least AM synthesis is part of it.. how could I make such error? :-D

> The term Chip-Tune was coined in the early nineties as a generic name for an Amiga Sound/Noise/Pro-Tracker module done with short synth like noises and plenty of FX to make the sound like it was infact synthesised.

And here all this time I thought they were refering to CHIP (AM or FM) synthesized sound! :-D


Either way.. I don't think there has been any off-the-shelf sound chip as cool as the SID chip since then! So please prove me wrong :-D

Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: Darth_X on April 12, 2003, 04:39:07 PM
By the way, what player plays this Paranoimia (http://sfx.paradogs.com/remix/Paranoimia.zip) tune? ;)

Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: clark on April 12, 2003, 04:45:22 PM
Try Delitracker, or Deliplayer (Windoze).

Clark
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: Calen on April 12, 2003, 05:07:00 PM
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Try Delitracker, or Deliplayer (Windoze).

 Deliplayer V2 beta is available here (http://www.delitracker.com/)
Just downloaded it while ago and seems to be quite good.

 currently listening to Stormlord C64-SID
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: on April 12, 2003, 05:32:59 PM
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Either way.. I don't think there has been any off-the-shelf sound chip as cool as the SID chip since then! So please prove me wrong


I can't!  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: on April 12, 2003, 05:34:32 PM
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By the way, what player plays this Paranoimia tune? ;)


On Windoze Deliplayer, on Linux UADE plugin for XMMS does the same, on Amiga use Deliplayer/Eagleplayer
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: on April 12, 2003, 07:09:17 PM
Nobody interested in an old-skool chipdisk then?

If we have a list of all our favourite Amiga (Not SID) chiptunes, that will be a start.

Maybe I should set up an FTP server for people to upload their top ten tunes to?
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: on April 12, 2003, 07:19:13 PM
Anarchy Red Sector 1911 :D

or...... Paperboy theme! yay!  :-x
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: xeron on April 12, 2003, 08:40:20 PM
umm... by format....

SID:
· Auf wiedersehen Monty
· Sanxion loader
· a million others ;)

AHX:
· Aftermath by Oxide/sonik
· Electric City by Pic Saint Loup

Medley:
· Imploder 4 theme
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: xeron on April 12, 2003, 09:10:11 PM
In fact... I just went to aminet and downloaded imploder-4.0.lzh to listen to the original music again in its original form :)
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: Damion on April 13, 2003, 01:38:47 AM
Probably my favorite computer music (c64)
was from Times of Lore....

Commando and Green Beret were also good tunes.



Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: carls on April 13, 2003, 01:45:49 AM
By the way, speaking of SID tunes...
Is there a good SID replayer for 060-equipped Amigas?
I used to listen to SIDs with HippoPlayer on my 030 and 040, but it just crashes on my 060.

I've downloaded some new SID replayers but they're all terribly slow, plus they use AHI to slow things down even more (plus, I seem to be unable to get decent sound quality from Paula and AHI).

HippoPlayer was faster and better at SID replaying on my 030 than the players I've tried on my 060. Any tips would be helpful!
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: Hooligan_DCS on April 13, 2003, 01:52:43 AM
you can find Clarke2 as AHX here.. I know its not 100% perfect. That was one of the first ahx's of mine so it was left a bit unfinished

http://koti.mbnet.fi/ea_i/ahx/
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: buzz on April 13, 2003, 02:21:16 AM
Tickle. You can get the imploder 4 music in its original format at http://exotica.fix.no/tunes/pages-full/MSO-MedlySound.html

you should be able to load this back into the medly editor it was created on also.
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: Trooper on April 13, 2003, 02:24:10 AM
Hi carls,

Have you tried EaglePlayer (http://www.eagleplayer.de/), I have no idea how well i performs as my amiga is currently confined to the cupboard. :-(

Just a suggestion, Please ignore this if you have already tried it. :-)

Regards

Trooper
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: Trooper on April 13, 2003, 03:21:34 AM
Hi,

[color=990033]Flippys intro tune.mod[/color] Cute bubbly tune by TRSI, Not sure where it originates from eg. Game/Demo :-? .

The intro tune to Magic pockets, Betty Boo meets The Monkeys :-D .

The level tune to X-it, The sokoban type game for the amiga.

The title tune for Mony on the run.

Just a suggestion :-D .

Regards

Trooper
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: ple3003 on April 13, 2003, 01:34:22 PM
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MOD:
Banana Boat!
@bezzen
I had completely forgotten about that one! Must be like 6 years ago since i last heard it...  How cool with those jamaican samples! Great little tune! LOL
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: xeron on April 13, 2003, 03:01:54 PM
@BuZz:

I know. I've already got all the Medlysound songs. I wanted to listen to them in them imploder exe with the 5 VU meters and everything for the full effect :)

@Carls:

The best SID replayers I've found for the 68k Amiga are SIDBooster and MindSID. SIDBooster takes a little configuring to sound right, but once you've tweaked it, it sounds great, but it doesn't play all SIDs. For the ones SIDBooster fails on, I use MindSID.

SIDBooster (http://www.emu64.pl/files/download.php?id=3942)
MindSID (http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/~aminet/aminet.cgi?string=mindsid)
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: Varthall on April 13, 2003, 03:42:14 PM
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@Carls:

The best SID replayers I've found for the 68k Amiga are SIDBooster and MindSID. SIDBooster takes a little configuring to sound right, but once you've tweaked it, it sounds great, but it doesn't play all SIDs. For the ones SIDBooster fails on, I use MindSID.


What are the system requirements for SidBooster? I've tried it on my 030 A1200 but it crashes. There is no documentation in its archive.

Varthall
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: Hooligan_DCS on April 13, 2003, 04:49:22 PM
Imploder 4 tunes remind me of ingame musics from a fab game: Qix

Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: on April 13, 2003, 06:04:03 PM
Hehe - some great tunes from the past have been flooding back into my life via the GP32 C64 emulatore.  One my all time faves is the Level 1 Tune on Last Ninja II.  

Loved the crack tune on the miggy game Vroom too.   That wasnt a true one, but a MOD made to sound like a SID tune.

Ah the memories :-)
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: Teemu on April 13, 2003, 08:01:43 PM
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MOD:
Banana Boat!

@bezzen
I had completely forgotten about that one! Must be like 6 years ago since i last heard it... How cool with those jamaican samples! Great little tune! LOL


Yeah, but I wouldn't call it a chip tune. :)

Why hasn't anyone mentioned 4-mat in this thread? The guy's a real god of chip mods. Those Anarchy menusongs, sweet...
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: on April 13, 2003, 09:03:28 PM
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Why hasn't anyone mentioned 4-mat in this thread? The guy's a real god of chip mods. Those Anarchy menusongs, sweet...


The man practically invented the chip-mod!

He's second only to Martin Galway in my book! (Hubbard being third)
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: carls on April 13, 2003, 10:20:21 PM
@Trooper
Yep, already tried EaglePlayer... AFAIK it crashed on with the majority of my SID tunes :-(
Title: Re: Favourite chiptune
Post by: carls on April 13, 2003, 10:23:28 PM
@Tickly
Thanks! I'll try them out and see what happens. I've got four megs of SID tunes waiting to be listened to :)