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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: VooDoo on January 05, 2006, 02:46:42 PM
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Heya ppl..I need help..I have error whit my Ibrowse 2.3..Any time the same error..here you can look pics -> http://www.inet.hr/~iteskera/ib.jpg
On net I get whit miamiDX and ADSL..(whit dialUp modem is the same)..and after connecting..I can surf 2,3,4h or only 20min...and bump error is here..if anyone know what is please help!!
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Give IBrowse a huge stack. Install StackAttack.
Don't use the "Back" button.
Disable image loading on sites you don't need them.
Disable image loading on SSL pages.
Close IBrowse and reboot every 10 minutes :-)
Bye,
Thomas
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or use voyager!! ;)
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It may be certain types of website content that is crashing IBrowse. To solve it, you would need to
avoid websites that cause the browser to crash.
You also may be getting data loss on your
Internet connection. You can test this by pinging
a website for a long time and see if you have much
packet loss. - Lars
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@logicalheart
You also may be getting data loss on your Internet connection. You can test this by pinging a website for a long time and see if you have much packet loss.
There is no data loss with TCP/IP. Either you get the data (very slowly if there is packet loss), or the connection is terminated. You don't get corrupt data.
RFC 793 - Transmission Control Protocol (http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc793.html)
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ohh man :) tnx on this Info...this is grear,,reset Sye any 10min :)
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VooDoo wrote:
ohh man :) tnx on this Info...this is grear,,reset Sye any 10min :)
The above hints are well meant, it's only the last one that's a joke.
Especially the first one (Give IBrowse a huge stack. Install StackAttack.) is a good tip.
-Paul
Edit: btw Guru# 8000 0008:
"Error by Motorola 680x0 CPU caused problems.
Privilege violation"
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Here's hoping that the KHTML port will be a bit more stable than the current browsers :-)
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Sheesh.....now you tell us about the last one being a joke. I can now get some sleep and plus my finger was getting sore from pushing the off button on my 3000. :-D :lol: :-D :lol: :crazy: :crazy:
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It is most likely a particular website that is causing IBrowse to crash. When IBrowse crashes, if you try to load the same site after a reboot, and it still crashes, then obviously that would confirm it. AFAIK, IB2.4 will be crash free - there are almost too many bugfixes to count.
However, how many connections have you told IBrowse to use? This is important because you mention MiamiDx and ADSL. MiamiDx (and Miami) actually have a nasty bug which causes incoming data to be corrupted under heavy network loading, which will happen if you set the number of connections too high. That said, this usually doesn't lead to crashes, but visually corrupt images being rendering on webpages.
I should also add that stack size is not the issue here.
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@Piru
>There is no data loss with TCP/IP. Either you get
>the data (very slowly if there is packet loss), or the
>connection is terminated. You don't get corrupt data.
There is data loss with TCP/IP. The protocol just has a way to recover, and will keep requesting the lost data. In some conditions, some Windows and Amiga applications will crash from it.
It is also possible there is a particular website which initiates the problem. If I use IBrowse on eBay, my computer will begin to slow down and ultimately cause IBrowse to crash, regardless of if I have moved on to other websites or not.
- Lars
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I run IB whit 8 connections..now I will test whit 6 and whit running StackAttack..I will post results..
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VooDoo wrote:
I run IB whit 8 connections..now I will test whit 6 and whit running StackAttack..I will post results..
8 should work fine - I use 10 on a 2Mbps connection, but then I have an 060, so maybe your slower cpu is a factor. It's just that some people think that since they have ADSL, it would be a good thing to bump up the connections to 32 :-) The truth is that this is only the case if your cpu is fast and is not being used to the max. Browsers on classic Amigas simply can't cope with that amount of incoming data - decoding 32 images simultaneously isn't going to be any faster than decoding 8 images simultaneously, then another 8, another 8 and another 8. Basically, the faster the data arrives, the faster your cpu needs to be for a browser to fully utilize the network speed.
I still think it's more likely just to be sites triggering IB bugs though.
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You know I use to have problems all the time too and I finally did something to get it stable but now I cannot remember! Try a clean OS load and see if that helps. I think it was something in ENVARC: that caused the problem or some patch in MCP?
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@logicalheart
There is data loss with TCP/IP.
No there isn't.
The protocol just has a way to recover, and will keep requesting the lost data.
It will never get data loss in the first place. The connection just stalls till the correct data is there, or the connection times out. Either way, it will never pass any corrupt data to the application layer. Partial read is perfectly normal phenomen with TCP/IP, and the application must be prepared for it. If the connection terminates early, the application must cope with this, or it's buggy.
In some conditions, some Windows and Amiga applications will crash from it.
I'd be very interested to hear what applications are these and some technical explanation why they're supposedly crashing.
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Don't use the "Back" button.
Pressing "b" instead of "Back" button cures 'back button crash'.
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itix wrote:
Don't use the "Back" button.
Pressing "b" instead of "Back" button cures 'back button crash'.
Which crash is this? Is it easily reproducable? I don't recall fixing such a bug, or even hearing of it. Certainly, pressing "b" should make no difference compared to pressing the button itself, since the exact same code is triggered.
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There is nothing wrong with the back button. It's just that IBrowse sometimes crashes when recalling a previously viewed page.
The same happens when much image decoding happens at the same time. That means either on pages where many big pictures are or on https pages with many pictures. E.g. IBrowse likes to crash after having logged on to https://freemail.web.de.
All those crashes happen sometimes and are not reproducable. It's just an experience. When a crash happens I try to remember what I did last in order to prevent it next time. And those hints above are just the results of the crashes which happened most often.
Bye,
Thomas
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If I disable javascript I can browse Ebay with Ib2.3.. When javascript is on it starts crawling and I get an error with large javascript is running .. This happens to several "large" pages...
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i never got a single crash due the "back" thing.
Are you using Genesis/AmiTCP?
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post results :)
After I install stackattack on my mys and run IBrowse whit 6 connection on my 040/33 ..IB today work wihtou crash..but still its in testing :)
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..ppl small report..
Now my Amiga works 29h without any crash..lot of files is downloaded..and IBrowse open milion's page :)..and no NetworkError..
Yeah now after I installed StackAttack2 and using 3 connections in IB..all works OK..
Tnx to all ppl who help me!!