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Title: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Invisix on December 28, 2005, 02:05:33 AM
Welp, better late than never, I was shooting for a Christmas opening, but alas that never happend... 2 days too late... d'oh! However, I bring good news! AmigaToday.com is now officially open to the public!

So far this is a one man operation, all done by me. Happy Holidays, and Happy New Year! :-D

Comments, and suggestions needed! :idea:

P.S. If anyone would like to contribute a logo for the website, please do so by posting the images in this thread. My current logo i'm not too fond us, and i'm graphically illiterate.

Thank you all in advance!  :-)

Amiga Today - Your online Amiga news resource! (http://www.amigatoday.com)  <-- Catchy slogan eh?  :lol:
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: tldaley on December 28, 2005, 02:18:33 AM
Sorry, but why would you write an Amiga page that requires CSS?

Currently it looks terrible in IBrowse.

Ciao, Trev.
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Invisix on December 28, 2005, 02:36:09 AM
Others have told me it looks fine in Ibrowse and Aweb.
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Amiduffer on December 28, 2005, 02:46:27 AM
[color=ff0000]Welp, better late than never, I was shooting for a Christmas opening, but alas that never happend... 2 days too late... d'oh! However, I bring good news! AmigaToday.com is now officially open to the public![/color][/i]

Hi there. I had a terrific idea for a logo. Let me install my Imagine3D v4 and get it rendered. It should take a few days. Is an animated logo fine? I'd like to try one, because it would incorporate all the different mascots, rainbow check, boing ball, butterfly, etc. in the style of an old newsreal splash screen.
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Piru on December 28, 2005, 02:58:13 AM
@Invisix
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Others have told me it looks fine in Ibrowse and Aweb.

It really does look quite horrible with CSSless browsers.

Why can't you test it yourself with the Amiga browsers? (Seeing your signature)
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Invisix on December 28, 2005, 03:02:27 AM
@Amiduffer

Thanks. Post it when it's finished. Yes, animated logo would be great.

:banana:
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Invisix on December 28, 2005, 03:04:51 AM
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Piru wrote:
@Invisix
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Others have told me it looks fine in Ibrowse and Aweb.

It really does look quite horrible with CSSless browsers.

Why can't you test it yourself with the Amiga browsers? (Seeing your signature)


I can't at this time, as what I have in my signature has yet to happen... my stuff shipped from Elbox, and AmigaKit.com over a week ago, and it's still not here yet!  :pissed:
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Piru on December 28, 2005, 03:13:53 AM
@Invisix

See the page thru the Dejavu.org Browser Emulator: Netscape Navigator (emulator) (http://dejavu.org/cgi-bin/get.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amigatoday.com&ver=95).

This is pretty much how it appears with IBrowse at the moment, except that the Calendar is formatted correctly with IB (mono coloured though). Search doesn't look as nice in IB, though.
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Invisix on December 28, 2005, 03:20:22 AM
well I ran IB through WinUAE, it's not as pretty as with a CSS capable browser, however it's readable.

I use a news / weblog, webware for the website, and it's all CSS based, just like most other webwares of the same genre. Not my fault IB isn't CSS compatible. :P
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Piru on December 28, 2005, 03:22:53 AM
@Invisix
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I use a news / weblog, webware for the website, and it's all CSS based, just like most other webwares of the same genre. Not my fault IB isn't CSS compatible. :P

Well, you've lost one potential reader then. I am not going to bother using the PC for the Amiga website browsing.

All major amiga sites look brilliant with Amiga browsers (amiga.org for example).
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Invisix on December 28, 2005, 03:43:51 AM
I'll see what I can do, however i'm not sure what.

As I said earlier, I may write a jaavscript, that will autodetect an Amiga browser, and route it to a different location, specifically for Amiga non-CSS browsers... aka a pure HTML website.

That means double the work... dual-postings. Hmmm... maybe i'll figure something out. :-)
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Dessimat0r on December 28, 2005, 04:22:51 AM
Write out everything in XML, and then have two seperate XSLT stylesheets -- one for Amiga (no CSS) and one for everything else. Transform your XML using them to XHTML / HTML, send to client where it is displayed in browser.
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Invisix on December 28, 2005, 06:59:44 AM
Fixed with a pure HTML template, NO CSS!  :-o

It doesn't look anywhere as good as the CSS template did, however, this was a hour and half - two hour rush job, and i'll be fixing it tomorrow. :-)

Comments & Opinions please!
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: tldaley on December 28, 2005, 10:38:59 AM
HI,

Now that is much better. It now is much easier to read on an Amiga browser.

Great job.

Ciao, Trev.
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Invisix on December 28, 2005, 09:30:51 PM
Well, the transition from pure CSS to HTML went "okay". The pure HTML site looks nowhere's near as pretty as the CSS site did, however compatability had to be sustained.

I have redone another template, this time for simplistic somewhat than the last HTML template was, and I like this one more than that one.

This HTML template looks nearly identical in Ibrowse as it does on PC & Mac web browsers. It's been said it looks okay in Aweb as well.
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Amiduffer on December 30, 2005, 11:17:20 PM
The logo is coming along swimingly. The construction isn't too difficult, just time consuming, considering that I only have an hour or two per night.
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: mihcael on December 31, 2005, 12:45:23 AM
It's nothing spectacular on a PC browser, i wouldnt like to see it in Ibrowse.

Well i just checked it out on Aweb! And it looks roughly the same as IE. But thats still not saying much.
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Amiduffer on January 03, 2006, 02:42:57 AM
Ok, i've got the objects designed and ready to animate and render. So far, there's the boing ball, the rainbow checks, and a flying blue butterfly. That should cover it.

Oh, I thought of an addition to the title, I thought I'd run it by you before I put the fonts together.

AMIGA TODAY.COM along the top

and along the bottom

SO THE WORLD MAY KNOW

I thought it would be appropriate for a news site.

 :-)
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Invisix on January 03, 2006, 05:20:54 AM
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mihcael wrote:
It's nothing spectacular on a PC browser, i wouldnt like to see it in Ibrowse.

Well i just checked it out on Aweb! And it looks roughly the same as IE. But thats still not saying much.


Considering I had to make it compatible with Amiga webbrowsers it is nothing spectacylar visually, all the CSS has been stripped. :)
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Invisix on January 03, 2006, 05:21:39 AM
@Amiduffer

Go for it mate! (http://www.amiga.org/images/subject/icon14.gif)
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: BigBenAussie on January 03, 2006, 07:21:31 AM
Error line 14: Object expected.

This was in IE set to debug.

I have Visual Studio installed.
It hates this:
onLoad="MM_preloadImages('images/btn_main_dn.gif','images/btn_overview_dn.gif','images/btn_products_dn.gif','images/btn_services_dn.gif','images/btn_contactus_dn.gif','images/btn_location_dn.gif','images/btn_ourteam_dn.gif')"

Ok. Going back to my happy place now.(http://64.33.47.100/images/a1000anim.gif)  
We have no weiners and no buns!!! No hotdogs for you!!!
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Invisix on January 04, 2006, 03:41:31 PM
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BigBenAussie wrote:
Error line 14: Object expected.

This was in IE set to debug.

I have Visual Studio installed.
It hates this:
onLoad="MM_preloadImages('images/btn_main_dn.gif','images/btn_overview_dn.gif','images/btn_products_dn.gif','images/btn_services_dn.gif','images/btn_contactus_dn.gif','images/btn_location_dn.gif','images/btn_ourteam_dn.gif')"

Ok. Going back to my happy place now.(http://64.33.47.100/images/a1000anim.gif)  
We have no weiners and no buns!!! No hotdogs for you!!!


Thanks for letting me know, I completely forgot about that line being there! It was used when I was testing the website, and those images, etc no longer exist, so that line was a waste of time.  :oops:  :-D
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: amigakit on January 04, 2006, 04:44:43 PM
The site is coming along nicely.

It is possible to combine CSS and HTML together to make a page that appears fine on the Amiga and has extra enhancements on CSS browsers.  However the code isn't W3C valid.
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Amiduffer on January 08, 2006, 09:49:14 PM
Ok, it's almost done. All the objects are rotating just the way I want them to. All that's left is to put a few special effects and it's time to render.

This will be in Anim 5 format. What size would you like, it can render at 1/4 screen, or full size screen?
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Amiduffer on January 09, 2006, 07:18:44 PM
My A3000 has been busy rendering the anim all night and it's still going right now. I should be able to have something posted by tonight. Yaaa!
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Amiduffer on January 10, 2006, 05:43:11 AM
I can't see how to post the anim here? I'll PM you.
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Amigadude on January 10, 2006, 10:02:26 AM
Small typo in the search box:

"Enter the words to search for here:"

should be

"Enter the word to search for here:"

?
Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: nagaflas on January 11, 2006, 05:43:34 AM
This is what it looks like on AWeb on my 3.9 setup:

http://umdrive.memphis.edu/lfossett/003.jpg

Title: Re: AmigaToday.com is online!
Post by: Amiduffer on January 15, 2006, 06:58:40 PM
Here's my design for the Amiga Today.com logo. In the animation, the tower and boing ball rotate and the butterfly flys around the tower. Pretty simple really. For some reason, on my Imagine3D version 4, the animation skips a little on at least one frame, where in the process of making it, will jag or skew one frame. Tell me what you think.
(http://www.geocities.com/laverdiereaf/AMILOGO.JPG)