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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: giZmo350 on December 18, 2005, 10:30:28 PM

Title: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: giZmo350 on December 18, 2005, 10:30:28 PM
No biggie but WOW! I was first bidder... then bid $24.00 in last minute. CRAZY! It's just WB1.3 for crying out loud!  :lol:

Crazy ebay auction! (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8737093368)
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: XDelusion on December 18, 2005, 10:32:33 PM
Crap, think I'll sell mine if I can find them! What do I need them for!?!?! :)
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: Munchkin on December 18, 2005, 10:34:44 PM
Problem is... it doesn't say WHAT kickstart roms it is.. if it's for A500, A4000 or whatever other versions there were...
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: doctorq on December 18, 2005, 10:51:03 PM
Well, Workbench 1.3 is for Kickstart 1.3 machines...
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: TjLaZer on December 18, 2005, 10:53:06 PM
There is no kickstart ROM included!  Just the disks, read the discription.  It is not easy getting WB on disk.  If you dont know anyone you cannot do it unless you have a catweasel controller and how many people have that and actually know or have the time to do it?  Disks like this will sell.  I have seen copied game disks for Atari 800 and C64 go for over $50 easy for the same reason.  People want to get the old computer running the easiest way, and will pay for it.
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: giZmo350 on December 18, 2005, 11:10:12 PM
Would it be legal for someone to create a set of WB 1.3 disks for me? I own an A500...   :roll:  I'll pay for shipping.
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: steve30 on December 19, 2005, 12:07:27 AM
If you don't own the original WB1.4 then it would, but I don't think Amiga would really care. :-D
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: steve30 on December 19, 2005, 12:07:38 AM
If you don't own the original WB1.4 then it would, but I don't think Amiga would really care. :-D
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: spihunter on December 19, 2005, 12:42:25 AM
I think Amiga Ebay Auctions are getting more and more out of control these days.

The other day I was watching an auction for a A4000. In the last 10 seconds this person bid an extra $200 against themselves.

Today I was watching this auction:
A500 auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8738960750&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1)

It went from $15 to $171 in the last minute!!

This is a stock A500 people :crazy:  :crazy:  :crazy:  :crazy:  :crazy:  :crazy:  :crazy:  :crazy:

What is going on?
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: giZmo350 on December 19, 2005, 12:53:30 AM
Also, not that I care, but check out the guy's buying habbits that bumped the item up to $75.00 in the first place. He bought 4 A500's in as many weeks...  odd.   :-o

Click on the recent item #'s....

4 "like new" A500 units... (http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=epurchase&iid=8737093368)
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: Invisix on December 19, 2005, 12:55:33 AM
 :insane:
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: Invisix on December 19, 2005, 12:57:56 AM
Perhaps he is a reseller, possibly at local flea markets and such.
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: CatHerder on December 19, 2005, 01:32:37 AM
Wow... I guess I should list my WB1.3 bundles I have here instead of tossing them all out.  :-o

Maybe I should include a 1.3 ROM with them just to be different?
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: Dr_Righteous on December 19, 2005, 01:37:39 AM
No, insane is this auction
http://cgi.ebay.com/AMIGA-CYBERSTORM-PPC-060-60MHZ-PPC-233MHZ_W0QQitemZ8738216630QQcategoryZ4598QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

US$15K-17K for a Cyberstorm?! I thought $800 was a bit out there... DAAAAAAAAAMN!
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: giZmo350 on December 19, 2005, 01:38:45 AM
@ Catherder

Hell Ya!  As long as I don't have to pay $75.00 for it!   :lol:
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: Legerdemain on December 19, 2005, 02:09:51 AM
That bid seems rather ridicilous to me, whatever the reasons for making that bid was in the first place.

eBay is such crap, anyways, I'm really seldom using it. It seems people can do pretty much anything on eBay and get away with it. Retracing of bids is really boring. Often people bid insane amounts to scare of other interested buyers, then before the retrace option runs out they retrace their bids and have many less people to fight against. I did see a really not that rare ACE OF BASE PROMO CD (no, I am not joking) going up to $1500... just to be retraced. What joy the seller must have felt when it went for, like, $150 in the end. Not.

In theory... my Amiga collection would be worth something like $10000 or even more if were to look at some previous auctions and their bids.

Maybe I should try to sell my mint F-18 Interceptor, claiming its RARE, demanding something like $150? I guess there must be someone finally not being able to restrain from putting a bid, believing the claimed rareness.

I'm so fed up with RARE, SHRINKWRAPPED, ONCE-IN-A-LIFETIME auctions! AAAAAAAAAARGH! But if people fall for it... well, then its nice for the seller. On occasions things are rare, but too often they are not. What disturbs me the most, though, is that when a wave like this sweeps over the world, everything is suddenly so expensive... because people that doesn't care anything at all about all the "crap" they have had stored in a closet for years, because they have been to lazy to throw it away, suddenly realises that they can sell it for big money...

...but fortunately something else happens after a while, when the market has been flooded with these "rare" items... then the items don't get sold, because the buyers can see that the items are not really that rare, and then the prices drop again due to lost interest from the buyers.

I sold my SNES - Secret Of Mana (EU release) in good condition on a Swedish auction site. It was almost NEVER up for sale at the time. I got it sold for $150. One week later there were SEVERAL auctions up on the same site, with really high starting bids... (I had my starting bid down at $40, I think) ...and no one got any bids. Just some weeks later the game was rather regularly put up on the site, but with humane prices. Sweet.

Considering the A500 auction... I don't find that one really THAT insane, considering all the books that came with it. The A500 in itself have no real value, though... I would never pay more than $20 for the computer in itself (with nothing included besides a PSU). Or, actually, I would never pay anything at all to get hold of an A500... but that's just me.
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: giZmo350 on December 19, 2005, 02:28:08 AM
@ Catherder

So, can I buy a set of WB1.3 disks from you?   :idea:
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: CatHerder on December 19, 2005, 03:58:32 AM
Quote

gizmo350 wrote:
@ Catherder

Hell Ya!  As long as I don't have to pay $75.00 for it!   :lol:


I've listed 6 "kits" with a starting price of $1.99

I think that's pretty darn cheap. (They're complete WB 1.3.3 packages, with manuals, all 3 disks, and a 1.3 ROM).
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: giZmo350 on December 19, 2005, 04:02:28 AM
Sweeeeeet!  Thanks!   :-D
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: CatHerder on December 19, 2005, 04:03:59 AM
Quote

gizmo350 wrote:
@ Catherder

So, can I buy a set of WB1.3 disks from you?   :idea:


If you just need the disks, I can toss those in an envelope and turf the manuals and not include a ROM. That would be the cheapest way for you. I have a couple extra sets that I didn't  bother including a ROM with.

I just sent you a tell.
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: giZmo350 on December 19, 2005, 05:34:09 AM
Catherder, just sent you a PM....  
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: Dingo_aus on December 19, 2005, 08:51:10 AM
I've seen similar things happen in other "vintage" markets, namely Tamiya Remote Control cars.

Around Christmas, lots of stuff gets listed and gets some amazingly high prices.

I think the people who are into vintage have the time and the inclination to spend on their vintage desires at this time of year. They are giving themselves a gift that is in line with Christmas but wouldn't be acceptable to them and their familes at another time of year. (ie they have an excuse in December :P)
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: Jose on December 19, 2005, 11:33:17 AM
@TjLaZer

Actually they can. Just transfer the files via serial port. Harder but works. Then use a tool like transdisk to "burn" the disks to floppy again. (Transdisk can be copied via serial port too if they don't already have it).
Problem is harder to solve if it was an A500 with just 512K ram. In this case one could probably use WinUAE to split the ADF files in tracks or something and then transfer via serial and save each part to disk, one at a time.
 :-D
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: Plaz on December 19, 2005, 01:42:22 PM
Wow, those are some crazy prices. Maybe it's time to clear out some of my old stuff that's just collecting dust. Not my srink-wrapped copy of M.U.L.E though :-) Too bad I didn't get it signed by the author before he died :-( I have a couple of tips on reviving old WB disk, but they're not for the meek and you'll have to have a working amiga with floppy.

Hmmm, I think I have an extra set of 3.1 Roms for the 4000 (good for running 3.1, 3.5 and 3.9) and maybe one for the 2000 too. But those probably won't bring such and outrageous price since you can still buy them new. But with all the kooks on ebay, who knows.

Plaz

Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: jkirk on December 19, 2005, 06:15:04 PM
iirc cd32 games come with 3.1 on disk and cdtv disks come with 1.3 on'em.
Title: Re: Vintage Amiga is out of control!
Post by: Munchkin on December 20, 2005, 09:10:17 PM
Quote

doctorq wrote:
Well, Workbench 1.3 is for Kickstart 1.3 machines...


Doh.

You do know there were different ROM versions for different Amigas?

Quote
AMIGA 3.1 UPGRADE KIT - Kickstart ROM & Workbench NEW


I interpret that as the rom(s) are included... and the 3.1 rom(s) are most definately different for different Amigas. There's one for A500/A600/A2000, one for A1200, one for A3000 and one for A4000.

Kind of valid info to know before you buy.