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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: XDelusion on December 18, 2005, 07:01:52 AM
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I picked up a PCMCIA 3com Etherlink III off Ebay so I could put my 1200 on my network. I'm running OS 3.9 and I forget what I need in order to set it up.
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3c589.lha from Aminet.
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Wasn't there a second file too? One called cnet.lha or something?
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cnet.device is only for ne2k compatible cards. If you have a 3com you'll only need 3c589.lha
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Ok, I got it and installed in in OS 3.9.
I then loaded up the Genesis Wizard, selected the driver, left the Unit number at 0, told it network and that I didn't know the IP...
...and well it doesn't connect to the net what so ever. Am I missing something? My XBOX and everything else picks up with no problems what so ever!
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I just noticed the subnet mask was different on the Amiga, so I changed it, still no luck.
I thought these things were easy to get on-line?
I've tested the cable on other devices too, still no luck.
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Hmm.. you are aware of the PCMCIA-bug? That you must remove and reinsert the card once the computer is booted. (There's software patches that fix this now a days too)
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I think the bug only exsists in certain 1200's.
Anyhow I have boing bag 1 and 2 installed, I've also tried unplugging and re-plugging the PCMCIA card, but no matter what the Genesis Wizard will not detect my IP, even if I say no special config, or special config, what ever that's all about.
My card is definatly on the compatability list, this sux. :/
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Perhaps the card is dead?
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It sounds like your trying to get the Amiga IP by dhcp. If that is the case genesis doesn't support dhcp. Set the IP manually.
There is suppose to be a plugin for genesis that makes support for dhcp, but I can't remeber it's name.
Regarding that pcmcia bug, there is a patch on aminet that's called "cardreset" or something like that. It worked for me.
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The instructions for the Genesis DHCP plugin make no sence to me.
Is it possible to use an assigned IP even though I'm using a router and everything else is on DHCP?
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Assign the IP of your system to how your router sees it... example: 192.168.1.101
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Give Genesis an assigned IP. It'll work without problems. My router assigns ip-adresses in the range of 192.168.1.100-200. Hardware which needs an assigned IP (printers, router, servers, A1200 & A3000) get an adress in the range of 192.168.1.50-99 on my lan. Works great!
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XDelusion wrote:
Is it possible to use an assigned IP even though I'm using a router and everything else is on DHCP?
Yes, just make sure the IP you assign to your Amiga is outside the DHCP pool configured in your router. i.e. if your router is configured to allocate addresses from 192.168.0.2 to 192.168.0.100, give your Amiga something like 192.168.0.101. If you don't do this, there is a chance one of the DHCP clients will pick up the same IP as your Amiga.
Also, make sure you configure the gateway and DNS servers with the IP of your router.
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moto
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XDelusion wrote:
Is it possible to use an assigned IP even though I'm using a router and everything else is on DHCP?
Yep. FWIW I have a 3Com 3C589 card (can't remember the exact model, it's not an Etherlink though), and I can't get DHCP to work with that through Miami, so it may be a driver problem (or my router).
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Hmmm yes, sounds really easy, but alas, nothing's working.
First off I got my IP from my router, so I put that as the Gateway on the Amiga, but could not set it to DNS because there was no DNS settings what so ever, unless it's under another name or something.
Secondly I changed my IP to static, and since my Router hands out IP's such as 192.168.1.1, I set the AMiga to 192.168.1.8 since it is not being used.
I then saved, rebooted, opened up Genesis, told it to go on-line and it told me this:
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bootpc send sendto
BOOTTP failed to have an answered (oh but of course)
route add SIOCADDRT network is unreachable
3c5890 is now on-line
could not get hostname for this machine
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So ya, that totally made no sence to me, what's a SIOCADDRT, and why does it say on-line when it's far from it?
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i had my 1200 online now i get the same thing as you get so i use the pc for internet. wish i could remember what i did to go online it was the same PCMCIA card too
adonay :-D
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Make sure you have something in Genesis Prefs/Interfaces/Resolv the DNS column. You should have DNS addresses from your ISP. This was the problem in another thread.
Cheers
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Ok, I installed Cardpatch and CardReset.
Then I went and set up Genesis to use my new driver for my Eth card (which has been PC tested btw).
From there I went into INTERFACE and gave it the IP of:
192.168.1.8
Because my PC is 1.1 and my XBOX is 1.6.
I left DESTINATION blank because I don't know what that is, never heard of it in my life.
I set GATEWAY to the IP adress that my IP gave to my router.
I set NETMASK to default.
Then went to RESOLV
I typed in 68.168.240.2 as my DNS because that's what the tech told me it was.
I clicked on ADD, the numbers vanished and the space they were supposed to got was used, but they were not visible (prolly because I'm using 32 colors).
I went ahead and hit OK.
Tried to connect, it says:
Route_Add: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
3c5890 is now online
So...
...what am I doing wrong? Is there something I'm not getting because I'm pretty sure I've done everything I've been told.
I feel like I'm running Linux or something. :/
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Did you try this one?
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=45645
I'm trying this with my A1200 and Cabletron Roamabout card. I am at the sneakernet stage of getting a tcp/ip stack installed along with software to use.
Though I am finding this interesting.
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I'm not using wireless. It's all cabled.
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XDelusion wrote:
From there I went into INTERFACE and gave it the IP of:
192.168.1.8
Because my PC is 1.1 and my XBOX is 1.6.
Are you sure this is outside the DHCP range as mentioned in previous posts.
I set GATEWAY to the IP adress that my IP gave to my router.
Make sure this is the local address rather than the public address, ie. it should start with 192.168.1.
I set NETMASK to default.
Then went to RESOLV
I typed in 68.168.240.2 as my DNS because that's what the tech told me it was.
I clicked on ADD, the numbers vanished and the space they were supposed to got was used, but they were not visible (prolly because I'm using 32 colors).
I think that's a bug in the GUI. You have to press return after entering the address. In other words, I don't think it's a colour problem, I think your DNS didn't get set.
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Ok, if I'm using the Genesis Wizard, what should I put under Router, where it has
IP
Netmask
Router
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Also here is a pic of my router info, I could not put a quick link on my page because the server is down so you have to download it atm. :/
http://rapidshare.de/files/9542886/router.GIF.html
Seems if I add in a gateway, i get errors when i connect, if I don't add a gateway it just says I'm on-line.
Either way, I'm not really on-line.
How would I go about testing to see if I can at least transfer files from my Winblows machine to my Amiga?
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Here's what works for me:
IP: Set it to a free IP outside of the dhcp ip-pool range.
My router has 192.168.1.1-192.168.1.32 as it's pool.
I use 192.168.1.96 for my amiga. I know it's free
Mask: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: Should be the same IP as your router.
My router has 192.168.1.254 as its ip and this is
what I've set as my gateway on the amiga.
DNS: This should be the dns that your ISP has told you to use.
In other words the same numbers that your router use as DNS.
When you have entered your dns numbers press 'enter' instead of 'Add'.
Hope this helps
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Ok, well they say that your router's IP should start with:
192.168.x.
Well mine begins with
68.171.x.
etc
So does that mean there is another router IP I should see somewhere?
Also I have a Netgear router. When a computer is connected to the net, the number for that computer lights up in Green on the front of the router, but when I try to take the Amiga on-line, it gets an orange light.
Is this because it is a 10 and not a 100?
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I used the Gateway 192.168.1.2 because that's what everything was set to by default unter the router's Lan Ip settings section.
Now the Amiga seems to try to load web pages, but always fails, where as before it just failed instantly.
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Sounds like dns lookup doesn't have the right ip.
Try to insert "http://216.239.59.103/" (google.com) as adr. in your amiga browser.
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same old crap
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Are you sure your router's ip is 192.168.1.2? What ip do you use when you log into the router preferences?
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You should have bought it from Amigakit, the 30 quid 3Com card is budled w/ software (on both Floppy & CD!) and although I don't like it's connector (a fragile push-pull mini one, always afraid of ripping it off) it works like a charm.
Support your local Amiga dealer ! :)
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I'm not sure if that is the IP, if I login to my router I use a name rather than actual IP:
http://www.routerlogin.net/
So like I said it's kind of hard to say what the IP is as you will see in my picture, if you'll download it from the link above. It's either that or 192.168.1.2. I can't tell, the docs that came with it suck, but unlike my D-Link and LinkSys, it actually works on my PC and Amiga.
As for buying from an Amiga dealer? WHY!?!?!?! I would have paid 4 times what I payed for this had I gotten it from a dealer!
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Ok, it was 192.168.1.1
To get the DNS under XP or 2k you type
ipcfongi/all
in a dos prompt and it tells you all the info you need.
Anhow, I hope this thread helps out some of you who have had problems like myself.
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Good. :-)
I actually started to download several different Netgear router manuals from that site you linked to. Plan was to find their default ip. :-D