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Title: Common R/W file system for *nix and Windoze?
Post by: redrumloa on December 10, 2005, 04:51:57 PM
Hey guys,
One problem I have with my dual boot system is no common file system both can access equally. At the moment my SUSE setup can read my NTFS Windoze partition, but cannot write to it. I've tried Fat32 and can't seem to write to that either from SUSE. I'd like to have a common partition for all my media files that both OS can r/w. Suggestions?
Title: Re: Common R/W file system for *nix and Windoze?
Post by: whabang on December 10, 2005, 05:00:35 PM
I have no problems accessing NTFS partitions under Puppy linux. IIRC, the write feature was disabled as standard, though.
Title: Re: Common R/W file system for *nix and Windoze?
Post by: buzz on December 10, 2005, 05:12:52 PM
fat32 works with both, but you are limited to 2gb max file size (i think.. oir maybe it was 4).. i now use an ext2 partition and ext2fsd for windows (on sourceforge),
Title: Re: Common R/W file system for *nix and Windoze?
Post by: redrumloa on December 10, 2005, 05:16:22 PM
Puppy Linux?

On Suse 9.2 I set permissions and was still SOL. I seem to remember reading somewhere online there is(was?) no write support for NTFS. Since you say you can, I'll try setting permissions on this SUSE 10.0 and see how it goes.
Title: Re: Common R/W file system for *nix and Windoze?
Post by: redrumloa on December 10, 2005, 05:25:15 PM
Nope, no luck. Won't let me change permissions. Read only.
Title: Re: Common R/W file system for *nix and Windoze?
Post by: Piru on December 10, 2005, 05:26:08 PM
http://www.linux-ntfs.org/
Title: Re: Common R/W file system for *nix and Windoze?
Post by: dylansmrjo on December 10, 2005, 05:41:42 PM
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buzz wrote:
fat32 works with both, but you are limited to 2gb max file size (i think.. oir maybe it was 4).. i now use an ext2 partition and ext2fsd for windows (on sourceforge),


FAT32 supports filesizes up to 4GB and no larger than that. This is good enough for most thing except those who do videoediting, and of course DVD-ISO's (typical 4.5 to 9.8 GB in size).

There are drivers to windows making it possible to use ext3fs and ext3fs from windows, with read/write (but you probably have to be logged in as Administrator to do so - or have Administrator rights - superuser isn't enough).

You can also use captive drivers for linux, making it possible to read and write to NTFS partitions, but ext3fs is a better filesystem, so stick to that if possible for you.
Title: Re: Common R/W file system for *nix and Windoze?
Post by: JLF65 on December 12, 2005, 06:22:32 AM
You want to use an ext3 partition and install this (http://www.fs-driver.org/) in Windows to read/write the ext3 partition. Since Windows never makes their FSes open, use an open FS from linux on Windows. That's what I do.
Title: Re: Common R/W file system for *nix and Windoze?
Post by: BouncingAyatollah on December 12, 2005, 12:44:02 PM
I agree with others: fat32 is a pain for DVD ISOs with its 4Gb limit. If you want to use it though check the umask entry in your fstab and also the privs of the directory to mount to itself e.g.:


/dev/hda3            /windows/C           vfat       users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0

drwxrwxr-x  11 root users  8192 1970-01-01 01:00 C


For ext2/3 I have previously used explore2fs (GUI, no write to ext3 though) from Windows, and for Reiserfs rfstool (command line) and rfsgui (GUI). Gonna try that Ext2 IFS though. :-)
Title: Re: Common R/W file system for *nix and Windoze?
Post by: xaccrocheur on December 12, 2005, 01:05:18 PM
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redrumloa wrote:
Nope, no luck. Won't let me change permissions. Read only.


It's not about permissions, redrum, it's "earlier" than that : Look at your /etc/fstab (global mountlist), and check the arguments with wich your NTFS partition is mounted. Chances are it's mounted read-only. I'd be *very* careful here, mate. Ask in SUSE's forums about just this, how it can be done properly.
AFAIK NTFS is really a pain to talk to under 'nux, but then again, since it's the best win FS by far, I can understand why you want to do it. AND I did not check recently. If you find a simple solution let me know please