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Title: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!!)
Post by: Helgis75 on April 04, 2003, 02:36:14 PM
Yes, that's right! I got a mail from Gunne Steen early this morning, and he told me he got his A1XEs into his shop, and have already contacted Datakompaniet to bring a bunch of these boards! I will have mine pretty soon! What a great news! :-)
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: Karlos on April 04, 2003, 02:38:00 PM
He he,

How'd I know this was going to be Helgis? :-D

Congrats BTW!
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: odin on April 04, 2003, 02:41:26 PM
Finally your optimism is rewarded :-).
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: filson on April 04, 2003, 02:43:26 PM
Nice one. be waiting to see them in The Netherlands.
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: olegil on April 04, 2003, 02:51:22 PM
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filson wrote:
Nice one. be waiting to see them in The Netherlands.

Hopefully not the boards that has now reached Sweden, though. But the rest of the boards should be on the way from the far east by now, afaik...

@Helgis:
Good luck with your board. I hope you've checked out the linux page at http://amigaone-linux.sourceforge.net/ (http://amigaone-linux.sourceforge.net/), the hardware page at amigarulez (http://web.amigarulez.com/ahs/) and that you don't run back to mommy crying about Linux being a bad kid after less than an hour
 :-P  :-P

Nah, I guess you'll be allright :-)
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: amigamad on April 04, 2003, 02:52:22 PM
I hope eyetech send mine soon. :-D
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: Agafaster on April 04, 2003, 02:54:04 PM
3 guesses who's gannin oot on tha p1ss tonight !
(but will be teetotal when theyve done 'Deliverin the goods'!)

NB: any typos, errors, or in your face opinionisms are the result of all these leaving do's I've been attending of late, and should be taken as such... ! :pint: :pint: :pint: :-P
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: Wilse on April 04, 2003, 02:59:38 PM
@Helgis:

Nice one. Looks like you're almost there.....

:pint:
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: filson on April 04, 2003, 03:01:37 PM
@olegil

well personally I don't care much for the boards that aren't currently headding towards Holland  :-D But I am happy that they are shipping in the first place.

BTW: anyone know why VIA was chosen for the southbridge? VIA doesn't have the best reputation for good PCI/IDE I/O. And they aren't the cheapest ones either.
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: Eric_Z on April 04, 2003, 03:07:48 PM
My guess is that they where the only ones willing to deliver
products  "good" enough and  in the small quantitys
 that Eyetech requested.
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: Kronos on April 04, 2003, 03:16:04 PM
Eyetech had nothing to do with that ...

AFAIK the VIA-ones are the easiest to connect to an "odd" NB, and
thats why Mai choose an rather old VIA-one for the eval-board
which was later replaced with a somewhat newer but pin-compatible
versiojn in the retail version of the mobo (aka A1).

Even the Pegasos use a VIA-SB, only one that was a bit newer and
orginally intended to be used in laptops (thats why there is so
much onboard stuff).

Getting information on how to use these chips (HW&SW) was also
very important.
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: bloodline on April 04, 2003, 03:16:52 PM
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filson wrote:

BTW: anyone know why VIA was chosen for the southbridge? VIA doesn't have the best reputation for good PCI/IDE I/O. And they aren't the cheapest ones either.



The VIA south bridge is actually a really good peice of kit, it's well tested/proven, has lots of features, it's well documented and it's very cheap.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that one sits on a PCI bus and not some strange custom bus, which makes it easy to include in a non standard project like the A1
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: Helgis75 on April 04, 2003, 03:21:03 PM
Hi folks! Thank you so much for the great feedbacks! It was a happy tear to my eyes when i got these happy mails! All the 8 years in darkness, and now i'm into the light! God, i'm so relived!

Now it's gonna be a lot of great fun! By the way, i also read that Lucasarts are going to release the third Jedi Knight game by autumn this year. It's called Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy!!!! How about porting this game to AmigaOS 4? Yeah, that would be so cool!  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: Wilse on April 04, 2003, 03:32:25 PM
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By the way, i also read that Lucasarts are going to release the third Jedi Knight game by autumn this year. It's called Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy!!!! How about porting this game to AmigaOS 4? Yeah, that would be so cool!            


Don't hold your breath on that one........
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: filson on April 04, 2003, 03:32:49 PM
@bloodline

I'm not going to rant on you, bloodline, since you were so nice to wake me up from the amiga time machine thread  :-D
but it is a known fact that VIAs southbridges contain "undocumented" features that some PC mobo makers like Abit use, that create a slight speed increase but will cause data corruption on the IDE channels if used in combo with e.g Soundblaster Audigy/Live.

After waisting more than 150 hours on debugging this problem I don't buy VIA any more.

And some basic pci transfer testing will show that Intel delivers the closest to the pci max, 110MB/s, then SiS, ALi and last VIA at 67MB/s

I have all the faith that the new Amigas are going to be a blast and that Ainc. wont make any stupid stunts so this probably wont be an issue anyhow.
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: poweramiga2002 on April 04, 2003, 03:34:14 PM
Ime not gona get too excited as have heard it all b4 many times over somthing will crop up and ill not get my a1 b4 chrisy Sadam husain prob blow ship up or sumit like that
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: Elektro on April 04, 2003, 03:42:13 PM
I had 3 via based pc mobos and I never saw any data corruption. There was a problem with the soundblaster but that might as well be crappy creative drivers.
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: bloodline on April 04, 2003, 03:43:30 PM
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filson wrote:
@bloodline

I'm not going to rant on you, bloodline, since you were so nice to wake me up from the amiga time machine thread  :-D
but it is a known fact that VIAs southbridges contain "undocumented" features that some PC mobo makers like Abit use, that create a slight speed increase but will cause data corruption on the IDE channels if used in combo with e.g Soundblaster Audigy/Live.

After waisting more than 150 hours on debugging this problem I don't buy VIA any more.

And some basic pci transfer testing will show that Intel delivers the closest to the pci max, 110MB/s, then SiS, ALi and last VIA at 67MB/s

I have all the faith that the new Amigas are going to be a blast and that Ainc. wont make any stupid stunts so this probably wont be an issue anyhow.


Oh yes, I fully agree with you on what you said, but I've found the VIA chips to be very good little chips (and very cheap). I'm currently wading through pages and pages of Technical documentation for the VIA Mini-ITX, as I'm keen to make AROS use the south bridges buit in sound.  :-o
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: PulsatingQuasar on April 04, 2003, 03:52:04 PM
I also hope to see them in the Netherlands soon!!

I have all my hardware allready. Thanks to snap I don't even have to buy a graphic card. Just stick a Geforce DDR in I still had around.

Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: JurassicCamper on April 04, 2003, 03:55:04 PM
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Helgis75 wrote:
Yes, that's right! I got a mail from Gunne Steen early this morning, and he told me he got his A1XEs into his shop, and have already contacted Datakompaniet to bring a bunch of these boards! I will have mine pretty soon! What a great news! :-)


Dont forget the toilet tissue and plastic pants when you go to bed  tonight  :-P  :-P  :-P

On a more serious note.... Surely Alan should have delivery of the others by now  :-?  :-?
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: Helgis75 on April 04, 2003, 03:56:52 PM
My girlfriend will take care of my happy tears..hehe...and something more..but that's for the private thing..hehe..:-)

The fun starts next week!  :-)
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: olegil on April 04, 2003, 04:09:54 PM
Hmm, Geforce wouldn't be bad if I had one to try out. I don't know if there's ANY working AmigaOne-linux drivers for it atm (the focus has been on Voodoo and Radeon), but Geforce is the only card I know of that actually HAS hardware GL drivers under Linux. Matrox, Voodoo, Radeon don't (at least not on my computers they don't).

Funny how the A1200 is almost as fast on the Gears demo as the A1 :-) (ok, that was a joke. But software-rendered opengl sucks quite a bit...)
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: poweramiga2002 on April 04, 2003, 04:14:23 PM
Im not bothered if they dont get anywhere else in the world as long as we get ours here in Australia i just want my A1 xe ppl,s :)
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: Agafaster on April 04, 2003, 04:27:23 PM
I believe Eyetech  are awaiting the next (big) batch of A1s out of the Far East imminently...

hold on to yer hats, and brace your credit cards, chaps !

:-o  :-D  :-P :pint:
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: filson on April 04, 2003, 04:37:20 PM
@Elektro

Ok, well the stick a Audigy2 card in a Abit KR7 and see what happens. very wierd stuff  :-D
After searching some time it turns out that this is indeed a VIA bug. not a SoundBlaster. what should happen is that SB cards (among others) is using some very long bursts, around 32 bytes. And VIA (bug enabled) can only handle PCI bursts up to 24 bytes.
In the linux world this bug is called the AMD bugstomper.
Once this bug is out, AMD is just as stable as Intel.  :-D

A quick swap to SiS, and there is nothing wrong with the Audigy card. go figure.. :-)
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: MrZammler on April 04, 2003, 04:39:36 PM
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Matrox, Voodoo, Radeon don't (at least not on my computers they don't).


Matrox is ok here (RH 8 - Matrox G550).

3360 frames in 5.0 seconds = 672.000 FPS
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: filson on April 04, 2003, 04:40:34 PM
@blodline
would AROS also support the SiS onboard sound?
got some nice spatial 3d sound emuls.
I could test for you if you'd be interested. :-D
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: Red_Melons on April 04, 2003, 07:20:36 PM
"3 guesses who's gannin oot on tha p1ss tonight"

I thought we had the beginnings of a North East Amiga User Group there Agafaster, then I saw the West Midlands as your location.

Are you in exile? :)
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: Elektro on April 04, 2003, 08:33:05 PM
Hercules cards seem to work fine, santa cruz too. And my problems were solved with unnofficial creative drivers.
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: xaccrocheur on April 04, 2003, 08:40:40 PM
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Helgis75 wrote:
Yes, that's right! I got a mail from Gunne Steen early this morning, and he told me he got his A1XEs into his shop, and have already contacted Datakompaniet to bring a bunch of these boards! I will have mine pretty soon! What a great news! :-)


Kudos. Really sounds GOOD ! Happy new century, Helgis ;)

pX
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: xaccrocheur on April 04, 2003, 08:41:54 PM
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Helgis75 wrote:
My girlfriend will take care of my happy tears..hehe...and something more..but that's for the private thing..hehe..:-)

The fun starts next week!  :-)


Did she had to wait THAT long ?? Boy, you *are* busy ;)

pX
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: reflect on April 04, 2003, 09:34:32 PM
I can pretty much, 100% bloody well confirm that the AmigaOne's has reached Sweden and some has been sent out to waiting customers already ;)

Got mine today at around 16:00 local time.
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: olegil on April 04, 2003, 10:04:23 PM
Congratulations, Andreas :-)

Give me a bell and a whistle if you need some help setting it up (but I guess you'll get some local Göteborg-help, eh?) :-)
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: reflect on April 04, 2003, 10:38:49 PM
Thank yee!

I was wondering if you got the mail that gunne sent about the dev-mailinglist. I'm not sure how it's done, exactly.. are you the administrator or something?

Regards
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: olegil on April 04, 2003, 11:29:11 PM
I am the moderator.
Alan is supposed to be the administrator, but I end up doing a lot of the dirty work on that end as well. Next time Gunne might consider emailing Alan and then let Alan email me instead of emailing me and then I have to email Alan and wait for his reply :-)

Confused? I am ;-)

Me and Gunne have started talking about a smaller list for anyone who is interested (basically, I would set up something where anyone can request to subscribe, and members-only posting as usual (saves us a hell of a lot of spam, actually). Does it sound intriguing? Anyway, let's hope we'll have AOS4 soon, eh? I just finished installing the 990529 snapshot of GeekGadgets on my brand new A1200, next up is installing some newer things from the alpha branch. Tomorrow. After I've played some games :-)
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: Rudei on April 06, 2003, 12:24:27 PM
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I am the moderator.


Twisted Moderator!!! Psycho-kinetic.....blah blah blah  :-)

Congrats to Helgis on the imminent arrival of his A1!
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: JurassicCamper on April 06, 2003, 01:05:55 PM
@olegil

Any chance you could post some LinuxPPC UAE benchmarks ?
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: olegil on April 06, 2003, 01:11:11 PM
No. Benchmarking UAE is really silly. How do you benchmark an emulator anyway?
Also, I've got the AmigaOne in the completely wrong place at the moment (A1200 at work, A1 at home).
Title: Re: GGSData got the A1XE mobos today!!! (Datakompaniet to have them early next week!!
Post by: olegil on April 06, 2003, 01:14:09 PM
Hmm, I managed to get it up from 200 to 370 now, on the Matrox G550. Tuxracer is suddenly playable.

What resolution are you running? I'm thinking maybe 372 isn't too bad in 1600x1200. I get 600 FPS in 800x600. But who would run that on a 21"? Even the A1200 runs 1280x1024 (with a linuxchicks background image *cough* :-D )