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Title: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: JurassicCamper on April 04, 2003, 09:02:22 AM
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Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: filson on April 04, 2003, 10:37:36 AM
 :-?  apart from the old date, I don't realy get it?! where is the timemachine thingy ref?
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: bloodline on April 04, 2003, 10:41:54 AM
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filson wrote:
 :-?  apart from the old date, I don't realy get it?! where is the timemachine thingy ref?


It would appear that the AmigaONE is running nearly a year in the future!!!
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: Casper on April 04, 2003, 10:44:05 AM
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apart from the old date, I don't realy get it?! where is the timemachine thingy ref?


Old date? At least where I'm from Dec 4, 2003 hasn't occured yet.
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: Warface on April 04, 2003, 10:48:01 AM
Beware of the Morlocks!!!  :-D
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: Wilse on April 04, 2003, 11:44:55 AM
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Warface wrote:
Beware of the Morlocks!!!  :-D


:lol:
I loved that film when I was a kid.
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: filson on April 04, 2003, 12:10:04 PM
hrm.. i need sleep.
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: ikir on April 04, 2003, 01:35:35 PM
LOL :crazy:
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: olegil on April 04, 2003, 01:45:35 PM
It's not just running in the future, it's running firmware compiled 9 months in the future :-)
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: odin on April 04, 2003, 01:56:48 PM
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Wilse wrote:
:lol:
I loved that film when I was a kid.


Film? You mean you haven't read the book? You savage! :-P
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: Kronos on April 04, 2003, 02:14:40 PM
[klingon-insult-comedy-mode]

No Alan was just a nice guy and preseted the BIOS to
the actual shipping date of the A1-XE.

[/klingon-insult-comedy-mode]

:-P  :-P  :-P
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: Dan on April 04, 2003, 02:30:06 PM
It´s because of the wormhole in the ROM (Cue star trek theme).  :lol:
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: anarchic_teapot on April 04, 2003, 02:47:26 PM
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Kronos wrote:
[klingon-insult-comedy-mode]

No Alan was just a nice guy and preseted the BIOS to
the actual shipping date of the A1-XE.

[/klingon-insult-comedy-mode]

:-P  :-P  :-P


*sound of running feet approaching*
*sound of someone lifting something very heavy* "hhhNNNRRRRGGGHHHH"
*sound of Kronos being hit by a midget wielding a 25lb dead fish* THWACKKKKK!!!
*sound of running feet fading into distance*

:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: Alkemyst on April 04, 2003, 02:54:09 PM
@Kronos

LOL



Hope it dont work out like that.
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: Wilse on April 04, 2003, 03:02:29 PM
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odin wrote:
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Wilse wrote:
:lol:
I loved that film when I was a kid.


Film? You mean you haven't read the book? You savage! :-P


I have actually but I read it before I saw the film and the film stayed in my memory better.

I guess I should read it again...... :-)
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: Colin_Camper on April 04, 2003, 05:34:45 PM
Humm
Dec 4th 2003 - So why don't you boot OS4 then.... :-D
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: vortexau on April 04, 2003, 05:56:30 PM

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Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: The_Editor on April 04, 2003, 05:56:31 PM
I'm still looking for Weena !!

(http://www.rpu.com/images/yvette_w_moorlock_sm.jpg) (http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/reviews/timemachineweena2.jpg)
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: Cojo on April 04, 2003, 08:23:22 PM
its just a "flaw", no time machine,
because it is missing the flux compensator! ;)
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: iamaboringperson on April 04, 2003, 11:08:52 PM
gee wiz... ill just send in a photo of my ibm-pc's monitor with the wrong date on it... or my A4000T's for that matter...


BTW somthing really interesting happened to my the other day...

i switched on my AMD-K6-II 400 and the BIOS told me it was 150MHz!! Linux told me it was ~150MHz!!!! i went into the BIOS settings and it showd me  400! so i just saved the settings and now it says 400.

Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: reticuli on April 05, 2003, 03:15:14 AM
I don't have an AmigaOne but the fact the date shows a time right down to the seconds level suggests this is the on-board clock.

So, we're resorting  to criticising and making fun of the AmigaOne just because one user can't be bothered setting the clock right?

Pathetic!
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: odin on April 05, 2003, 03:29:15 AM
Shees man, grumpy old men galore?
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: on April 05, 2003, 07:46:21 AM
No, it's not the on-board clock. I took those pictures in January, if I remember correctly... One of  the Friedens (don't remember which one, sorry) told me that their machine had a wrong time settings at the time when they flashed the rom (or something like that)... Anyway, it's a rather old picture. Nowdays I have a 512MB Kingston ECC/REG memory module, so I'm not running the machine with 100MHz FSB anymore.
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: on April 05, 2003, 08:11:09 AM
do you guys think OS4 will be done in 2003?...or will it be done in 2004? thats a good question.. someone should ask fleecy that on amigaworld.
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: kengur on April 05, 2003, 09:34:58 AM
The answer to this mistery is actually quite simple:

AmigaONE is just following tradition of Classic Amiga: it`s way ahead of it`s time :)
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: jd997uk on April 05, 2003, 10:51:42 AM
This year. My money is on July/ August.

-john
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: olegil on April 05, 2003, 12:08:13 PM
Depends which version. Cyberstorm version should be out any day now (TM). AmigaOne version probably needs a bit more development/betatesting. BlizzardPPC version is a complete unknown to me.

But 2003 for the two first, that's for sure.
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: Kronos on April 05, 2003, 12:21:32 PM
@ole-egil

Have have to disagree ..... (oh what suprise :-P )

According to the little public info we got from Hyperion in
the last times, they are just about to run an OS3.9 on top
of Petunia/ExecSG. Even if it would be rock-stable, releasing
such a version would just be suicide, and a fesival for the
competition as it would be just on par with MOS0.1 .....
(which had a static 68k-emu instead of the JIT, but still)

Something like this is good to show the state of affairs, but a
release version has to come with atleast the core-parts in PPC,
working WOS-emu, intrgrated P96, and some extras.

Remember they are expecting people to pay for it  ;-)
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: Dan on April 05, 2003, 12:27:58 PM
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[klingon-insult-comedy-mode]

No Alan was just a nice guy and preseted the BIOS to
the actual shipping date of the A1-XE.

[/klingon-insult-comedy-mode]


No, AmigaOnes is shipping it´s AmigaOS4.0 that will arrive with Santa Claus. :-D
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: Kronos on April 05, 2003, 12:35:26 PM
@Dan

You hopeless optimist ......
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: olegil on April 05, 2003, 12:56:51 PM
Uhm, you're OH so silly.

They're doing the FINAL testing of the emulator integration using OS3.9 running in emulation. Thie is because it's the only way to _really_ know you've tested every last bit.

Once OS39 runs stable under emulation you're pretty much FINISHED with the critical emulation betatesting, NOT just begun.

The core parts are already done (they were done in C, so was tested on 68k before the kernel was ready).

Jesus, you just HAD to misunderstand the WHOLE point of the exercise, right?
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: ksk on April 05, 2003, 01:18:10 PM
about the picture: Why only 100Mhz FSB?
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: Kronos on April 05, 2003, 01:46:24 PM
@oleegil

Yes the emulator is finished when OS3.9 runs on it, but do
you really believe all those other components will just
recompile out of th box ? And just work with other parts
still 68k ?

/dream on
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: on April 05, 2003, 04:22:50 PM
@ksk

Didn't you notice, I have already answered the question once... :-) Just take a look at those previous postings and you'll see.
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: olegil on April 05, 2003, 06:09:11 PM
I don't think they "will compile" out of the box, I'm pretty certain they "have compiled" already. Do you think no modules have been tested under execsg just because the emulation hasn't been foolproofed? Come on.
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: Kronos on April 05, 2003, 06:31:54 PM
How do you test Intuition-PPC (for example) without the rest of
the system ? There are very few modules/libs that could run on
Exec(SG) and nothing else.
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: ksk on April 05, 2003, 08:33:51 PM
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Pecosbil wrote:
@ksk

Didn't you notice, I have already answered the question once... :-) Just take a look at those previous postings and you'll see.


Oh... right ... me doing the too speedy reading again (did not notice your post on the first go) and I also missed that it was a picture from your A1... :)
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: olegil on April 05, 2003, 09:06:54 PM
Kronos:

Why do you keep insisting that there's no system to test it on? I already tried to tell you they're not running OS3.9 under emulation because they don't have an OS4, they're doing it to find the last missing bugs (of course they're not going to find the last missing bugs (this is the definition of last missing bug, isn't it?  :-D ), but they can try, can't they) in the frelling emulation. The reason why you haven't seen a demo of the whole system (like with MOS) is that Hyperion does NOT want to show a crashing demo (like with MOS). Hans-Joerg has said so himself.

The thing with OS3.9 running under emulation was mentioned as a side-note, because if you think about it it's really a good idea.
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: Kronos on April 05, 2003, 09:28:08 PM
@olegil

Hmm they didn't have a system working good enough to
show it last week, but still you think the final
is gonna be
"out any day now " ?

Doesn't sound very realistic .....

And rest assured one can bring any system down if he just
wants to, and that what happened in not to few cases with
MOS on public shows, and that will happen to OS4, once it
can be touched by "mortals".

I also wouldn't give to much value about what any Hyperion-guy
has to say after all the completly off-mark predictions on
the release-schedule they made in the last 15 months.

Also noticed that I haven't made any comment on when I think
it will be released, just on your "out any day now" which
sounds like 4 weeks max and I don't see that happening.

See you in May.
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: Billsey on April 05, 2003, 09:46:36 PM
Until my friend "James" (pseudonym ;-) ) can get through a session without the machine blowing up, it ain't bug-free. This guy runs software that runs rock-solid for everyone else and somehow—much to his chagrin—he gets it to crash. :-D

Of course, unless he's an official betatester, they're just going to have to release the thing to find that out. :-D
Title: Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
Post by: QuikSanz on April 05, 2003, 10:09:12 PM
@ Cojo

Err, Umm. flux capacitor.

Chris