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Title: C64 DTV on PCI card - would this be possible?
Post by: MarkAshley on November 27, 2005, 10:28:52 AM
I've had an idea  :-D

The C64 DTV chip on a PCI card with a TV Card-like application running on the Workbench to display the video output in a window. When the window is selected, the software routes keyboard and joystick input to the PCI card, which in turn routes these inputs to the DTV chip.

It's a C64 on a PCI card!  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)
Title: Re: C64 DTV on PCI card - would this be possible?
Post by: uncharted on November 27, 2005, 11:55:51 AM
Why not just run an emulator?
Title: Re: C64 DTV on PCI card - would this be possible?
Post by: MarkAshley on November 27, 2005, 12:55:25 PM
Because DTV is a real C64 reduced to a single chip. It just feels better knowing it's somewhat the real thing rather than an emulator  :-)
Title: Re: C64 DTV on PCI card - would this be possible?
Post by: countzero on November 27, 2005, 01:05:04 PM
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MarkAshley wrote:
Because DTV is a real C64 reduced to a single chip.


it's not a 'real' c64. it's a chip that emulates a c64. And I hear it's not very compatible with software other than found on it by default. chances are your software emulator will be much more compatible with c64 software than c64dtv.

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=13067
Title: Re: C64 DTV on PCI card - would this be possible?
Post by: MarkAshley on November 27, 2005, 01:27:47 PM
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countzero wrote:
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MarkAshley wrote:
Because DTV is a real C64 reduced to a single chip.


it's not a 'real' c64. it's a chip that emulates a c64. And I hear it's not very compatible with software other than found on it by default. chances are your software emulator will be much more compatible with c64 software than c64dtv.

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=13067

That's not what it says here (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/20/technology/20joystick.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5088&en=e75b73eb605a444d&ex=1261285200&partner=rssnyt).

Specifically:
"Ms. Ellsworth has squeezed the entire circuitry of a two-decade-old Commodore 64 home computer onto a single chip..."
Title: Re: C64 DTV on PCI card - would this be possible?
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on November 27, 2005, 01:32:41 PM
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MarkAshley wrote:
Because DTV is a real C64 reduced to a single chip. It just feels better knowing it's somewhat the real thing rather than an emulator  :-)
To have that 'real thing' feeling, I just have the real thing. :-)
Title: Re: C64 DTV on PCI card - would this be possible?
Post by: MarkAshley on November 27, 2005, 01:40:27 PM
I was thinking of getting hold of a non-working C64 and replacing the motherboard with a DTV. Hopefully this would leave enough room inside the case to build a disk drive in to it, making it an all-in-one unit.
Title: Re: C64 DTV on PCI card - would this be possible?
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on November 27, 2005, 01:55:32 PM
Would that work?
My 1541 diskdrive is huuuuuuuge, because it's not just a diskdrive, it has a diskdrive controlling unit and a serial interface.
But I've never seen a 1581, maybe that one's small enough to fit in the c64 case... But anyhoo it'd be cheaper and easier to find a working c64+1541.
Nice hobbying around btw :-)
Title: Re: C64 DTV on PCI card - would this be possible?
Post by: countzero on November 27, 2005, 02:15:22 PM
I'm not sure if you can fit a disk drive controller into a c64, but you can fit a dtv into a 1571 like this (http://www.petarstrinic.com/dtv/) guy did ... very innovative project !
Title: Re: C64 DTV on PCI card - would this be possible?
Post by: _ThEcRoW on November 27, 2005, 02:16:17 PM
Just purchased one and i can tell you it´s an awesome device!!!!!!!. Will add the keyboard and drive ya.
Title: Re: C64 DTV on PCI card - would this be possible?
Post by: MarkAshley on November 27, 2005, 05:35:19 PM
I haven't had a C64 and 1541 for a few years so I can't really remember how big they are. I do remember the 1541 being very large due to the size of the controller board. I may try to find a 1581 or FD-2000. If the uIEC is ever available then I will use that with a compact flash card.