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The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Alternative Operating Systems => Topic started by: redrumloa on November 21, 2005, 01:59:52 PM
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Looks like it! (http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/701008/302-6156308-9823227)
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Nice.
If I could get my hands on one locally, I would have definately bought one.
I think I have seen a few demo groups making demos for the DTV.. Good stuff. :-D
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Well we have the C64 DTV NTSC (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=279) version in stock now, and now we have recevied shipment of the new C64 DTV PAL (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=398)
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OT, very sorry: How are things, Red?
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I know lou_dias will not see the funny side to this next bit but......
prehaps with these outselling a nintendo product we could port os4 to it lol
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
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I just got mine last week. As soon as I get some time I`m going to do a MOD using an external cd drive case, add the keyboard, and 1541 and fun, fun, fun!
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@kd7ota
They don't have Toys R Us near you?
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Given the number of units that are selling, it would be nice to see a new version that had the ports exposed. Even if it required a special adapter so that they could use a something like the mini-parallel port form factor to keep costs down on the main unit. This could then be followed with a SD based "disk drive". With the ability to use SD containing D64 images as a drive, C64 software could go on sale again.
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It would be great to play my personal favourites such as Blue Max, Spy Hunter, Up n Down, Infiltrator.....
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Belial6 wrote:
Given the number of units that are selling, it would be nice to see a new version that had the ports exposed. Even if it required a special adapter so that they could use a something like the mini-parallel port form factor to keep costs down on the main unit. This could then be followed with a SD based "disk drive". With the ability to use SD containing D64 images as a drive, C64 software could go on sale again.
It is a nice idea, but it will never happen. These are being sold as dirt-cheap, plug into the tv, toys, nothing more.
Just like the £20 megadrive 5-in-1 pads at my local Tesco. 99% of the people who buy them don't want or need anything else, and the other 1%, the "enthusiasts", probably already have a C-One, or an old C64 lying around.
If there was still a market for the C64, or C64 software, then they would still be on sale. There isn't, so they aren't. People have moved on.
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Lando wrote:
It is a nice idea, but it will never happen. These are being sold as dirt-cheap, plug into the tv, toys, nothing more.
Just like the £20 megadrive 5-in-1 pads at my local Tesco. 99% of the people who buy them don't want or need anything else, and the other 1%, the "enthusiasts", probably already have a C-One, or an old C64 lying around.
If there was still a market for the C64, or C64 software, then they would still be on sale. There isn't, so they aren't. People have moved on.
I wouldn't be so fast to jump to this conclusion..
c.s.c link (http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.cbm/browse_thread/thread/782cf27226a51a49/556f0632aecdb458#556f0632aecdb458)
Ok, just noticed this from Jeff's DTV Hacking forums today. It seems
that Curt Vendel, one of the Atari Flashback dev team, has revealed
that a company in the Netherlands is working on a c64DTV into a
keyboard?
Not Nick Coplin's hack, this seems to be a commercial enterprise:
As Curt said in this thread -
http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=78664
"Actually the Commodore C64 and assets are now owned by a company in
the Netherlands and they are working on a C64 in a keyboard."
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>If there was still a market for the C64, or C64 software, then they would still be on sale. There isn't, so they aren't. People have moved on.
the c64 was still selling fairly well when commodore axed it. they had even developed a nexgen c64 the c65 with an amigalike chipset and c64 emulation. i know quite a few people who used c64 regularly up till about '95.
manufacturers sometimes dont sell what could sell because they want to move the company in a new direction or dont have a know what direction they are moving. (commodore (what are we doing today? pc clones, c65 AAA amiga transputer))
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I knew you'd come back, Red! :-)
As for the Commodore outselling the modern consoles, I think it has something to do with people missing the good ol' days.
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adolescent wrote:
@kd7ota
They don't have Toys R Us near you?
:) Not that I am aware of actually. I never seen one and im in the middle of Kansas. :-(
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I'd say the huge price difference has a lot to do with that.
Good to hear the C64-DTV's doing so well though. I'll be getting a PAL one to hack for sure.
Now, where's the A500-DTV?
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I have never been too interested in these devices as they only allow you to play the bundled games. But on further investigation it would appear that this device is a C64, reduced to a single chip. It aparrently also has solder points to connect a keyboard and disk drive. This is definitely worth £20 of anybody's money. I have looked at a few DTV modding sites, and one guy actually build the DTV in to a 1541 disk drive to make it an all-in-one unit!!! I see a new project on the horizon :-D
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Here are some interesting links to get you started:
http://dtvhacking.info/
http://www.64hdd.com/projects/hardware/c64-dtv64.html
http://www.forum-64.de/wbb2/thread.php?threadid=4989&
Jeri Ellsworth has been rather busy and also created a DTV Hummer game:
http://jledger.proboards19.com/index.cgi?board=dtvhacking&action=display&thread=1127251579&page=1
:-D
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Jeri Ellsworth has been rather busy and also created a DTV Hummer game:
http://jledger.proboards19.com/index.cgi?board=dtvhacking&action=display&thread=1127251579&page=1
:-D
Wow, I didn't know she had another one finished already! Looks like this is C64DTV based with a full user port and better GFX than a stock C64. Interesting.. I'll be watching this one..
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Makes me think, what a shame we will probably never see a AmigaDTV. For one they'd probably never find McBill, if they did this would be the conversation.
Mammoth Games: We'd like to license the Amiga name to create DTV joysticks with 30 classic Amiga games.
McBill: We'd be happy to accommodate! The license fee is $75 per unit.
Mammoth Games: Uh, McBill our target retail price is $19.95.
McBill: No, sorry, $75 per unit.
Mammoth Games: -click-
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Do you think it would be possible to miniaturise the Amiga's circuitry like that?
Also, DTV enthusiasts may want to look up the uIEC device. It is currently in development I think, and is a tiny PCB that allows you to use a Compact Flash card connected to the IEC disk drive port of the C64. Since the DTV has IEC support, in theory this should work. How cool would it be to build a DTV board and the uIEC into the casing of a PS2 keyboard? Hey presto, complete C64 in a small casing. Bye bye bulky 1541 :-D
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Bad that all of the PAL DTVs have a bad color palette bug. :-( Quality controls on these things must be very low. Hopefully they'll make it right and replace them at no charge, but for such a cheap item I doubt they'll bother.
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redrumloa wrote:
Makes me think, what a shame we will probably never see a AmigaDTV.
Actually Red, there's no need right now. An A1200 with a small fast ram card and hardrive using WHDLoad runs almost all Amiga games and has composite video output built in. Maybe in ten years time it will happen. By then, something akin to UAE on a small custom chip will fit in a joystick. The Amiga owners, if still alive, would jump on any revenue.
Speaking of the C64DTV:
I just bought one today and I must say I am VERY impressed with it. This is really a neat piece of kit, though I wish they had included Karnov. I don't know if they are selling all too well right now, if the noticeable layer of dust on the top of the one I bought was any market indicator. So I say to all you out there get down to Toys R Us or wherever and buy them up gentlemen. Give them to your kids, nieces, nephews, grandkids (anyone?) this Christmas. Then next year you can give them an A500; they'll never forget you! :)
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Just bit hard and bought the HummerDTV. Anyone else have one? Funny thing, no manual with it. Graphic fonts are just about unreadable; is this the dreaded PALDTV video problem? I tried the games themselves, just about impossible (for me) to steer the damned truck. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Any opinions out there?
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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000701CSM/
There's the Amazon URL for those that don't have a ToysRUs close..
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http://www.64hdd.com/projects/hardware/c64-dtv64kb.html
I really liked this Mod and fancy doing it myself, problem is I have just got the PAL one, is the graphics problem really that bad? Or is it a limited number?