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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga.org site announcements => Topic started by: iamaboringperson on March 28, 2003, 11:04:01 PM
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... but is it getting any better?
i thought it wasnt to bad before...
but now it looks much brigher - very smart
the old style was a bit grey, but probably better on my eyes!
i hope the background at the top never changes, it look bloooody good!
:-D
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I noticed it too. There's still some grey in the headers, but I really like it.
- Mike
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Looks great to me!
Have to get used to the new icons in the news sos I know what I'm reading about! :-D
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The Chrome background is a frantic plea for you guys to help me find a suitable light-colored matching background for the site. That is, unless you like it, then you're stuck ;-)
Wayne
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Wayne wrote:
The Chrome background is a frantic plea for you guys to help me find a suitable light-colored matching background for the site. That is, unless you like it, then you're stuck ;-)
Wayne
ill help! i have a nice light marble background on my amiga somewhere... but ill have to find it later :)
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Ummm... consider this a vote against the chrome! I like solid colours and find most textures on web pages to be tacky.
- Mike
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@glaucus
I said, don't bitch, help find us one. :)
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Wayne wrote:
@glaucus
I said, don't bitch, help find us one. :)
Well, I said I liked solid colours. So white or light grey might be good.
- Mike
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Wayne,
I've got over 100 images on AmiNET in pix/wfm. Anyone who wants to use any of those as a starting point has my permission. I doubt that any of them would be appropriate as they are now, but after some f,s,m they might work a treat. (by the way: folding, spindling, mutilating) :-D
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Carefull Wayne, the visual change will start controversy again... (wait for it) ...someone's bound to make a comment about the site "Morphing" :-P
ok, ok, i tried
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Looking kinda funky so far :-)
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i like this one:
(http://www.xed.ch/tess/kuhli3.gif)
but it belongs to this (http://www.xed.ch/tess/tess10.html) site
if you visit you will see what i mean...
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(http://www.powerpointart.com/powerpoint-backgrounds-samples/textures-background-samples/sponged-grey.jpg)
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Why not turn the site/background blue ?
Such blue as in the upper right next to the search thing.. or lighter.
Although that would probably make you change the grey in the upper links thing..
Grey just seems boring to me.. oh well.
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I think a solid mild color like you had before was best, trying to make the site cartoony with these psudo-camoflauge look isnt making it any better ;)
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Argh, my eyes! Remove that quicksilver background pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase...!
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I leave here to go to a mate's house, when I get back I find that you've redecorated! :-P
I like the white with blue headers for the column on the left - everything looks more seperated now (which is good :-D). The silver swirls are ok, I could get used to it.
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To quote spaceballs, "They've gone to plaid!"
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I need to know if the center, recent forums box on the main page looks correct please? Creating it was a bitch, not sure I got it right.
Wayne
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Looks okay frome here chief...
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A few mins ago, it seems all the pages went blank. Was that just my browser or part of the site update?
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Looking good here aswell Wayne.
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Nah, It happened here too. Strange thing is that the user window in my IRC client went blank for a bit as well. :-D
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What about a nice MUI background pattern (I think someone posted one of them already) , I use it when I run massive screens and they look quite cool.
But nice update, keeping this site on the cutting edge, I like it. :-D
PS: on the front page with the forum bit I would probably perfer the topics name and then the forum its in but thats just me :-)
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recent forum posts looks cluttered now, could you just have the topic and not the forum visible as it was before?
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I leave the site for a couple of days and look what happens...
The Macintosh brushed steel look just disappears, come on guys bring it back, after all this is a Mac site...
Err hang on...
I'll get my coat.
***Mike_Amiga runs off before he's flamed to death*** :-D
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Mike_Amiga wrote:
I leave the site for a couple of days and look what happens...
The Macintosh brushed steel look just disappears, come on guys bring it back, after all this is a Mac site...
Err hang on...
I'll get my coat.
***Mike_Amiga runs off before he's flamed to death*** :-D
(http://mode.tiscali.it/manifestazioni/Media/foto/200210/25/apple_logo_(640x480).jpg)
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Much better looking now than last night, i think Wayne had found some free time on his hands, out comes the hammer :-)
Looking good, i also liked the old look to.
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Does THIS suit everyone ok? Reminiscent of our older style and still usable. :)
Wayne
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umm it's late im knackered and my mind is slipping but i could have sworn the background was white just a short while ago, i much prefered that to be honest, to much bluey now, other than that it looks good.
gnite/morning
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Wayne wondered:
Does THIS suit everyone ok? Reminiscent of our older style and still usable. :)
;-) Currently, I'm seeing the old blue background, with spaces between the sections on the left. I like it; subtle, yet still interesting. Very good.
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I think it looks great. The site is loading a bit faster too.
It used to hang real awful on some older Mac browsers, but
it seems fixed now.
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Looks sharp, but now the top menu bar is its own shade of gry/blue and nothing else is like it on the site, wait no, I can't think of a better color, so looks great. Maybe flaming pink.... and then the text can do the color flashing thing....
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Cheers Wayne!
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I liked the forum topics present on the front page. Since I
almost exclusively use forums through the "ten last posted"
feature, I never see the topic name otherwise. But the whole
long name make it too cluttered. Perhaps having a small
icon for each forum topic might be a good idea, and display
that on the frontpage instead?
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SlimJim
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it looked better without the blue background (doesn't go well with the blue boxes on the left).
But then, each and everyone will have a different taste :-)
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I prefer this darker blue background to a light washed-out background. Gives character to the site. Confuse it with Amigaworld otherwise. But I agree the boxes on the left melt inot tha background too much. Change them, not the background.
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SlimJim
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I do like the new colours. The headers on the boxes on the left do need changing a bit, and the dark gray in the header of the posting page also wants to go :-P , but it's looking much more alive now.
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Love the new look Wayne. :-D
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@mikeymike
:lol:
@Wayne
I liked the grey background, everything stood out better.
I like the alternating post colours tho :-D
I liked the idea of having icons for the different posts aswell - nice one SlimJim :-D
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Hmm. All I can say is that I liked the old look better.
As it is now, it's a mix between minimalistic and kitsch(sp?) futuristic.
Maybe I'll toss together an example... Yeah... :)
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Or... Maybe I won't.
Wayne, the code is a mess ;-D
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@carls,
Code to what? Xoops, or the site?
carls wrote:
Or... Maybe I won't.
Wayne, the code is a mess ;-D
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I'm sure the server side php code is much neater than a source dump of this page implies :-)
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Actually, I take it back - the generated html isnt that bad...
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Wayne, you must be tinkering like anything just now. Each time I refresh it looks different :-D
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re tinkering :
Yes, yes I am.
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Oops forgot main point. It actually looks quite neat just now...
Off topic, Wayne, how many groansomely bad jokes does it take to be banned from the site :-D
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@Wayne
I was referring to the HTML code on the site. It isn't that bad considering it's generated from Xoops, but it was more than I had the energy to hack around in :-)
Mainly it's the mix of HTML formatting and CSS formatting (with colours etc.), but I guess it's the best solution if you want it to look good both on Amiga and PC browsers.
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I like it i think the site looks great although i prefer red to blue. :-)
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The colour scheme is looking better now than it was earlier today, but please lose that lighter blue (in table headings), that with white text on top burns my eyes :-)
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@mikeymike,
I *know* that I said "don't bitch. suggest" earlier. :-P
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The new look is looking good Wayne, only thing i can fault is the blue background, you know you want to change it ;-)
Perhaps a lighter shade of blue or maybe a cream colour?
I'd seen a nice one last night, the one before this and after the chrome, it looked nice back then anyway, but i wasnt to sober so i could be just dreaming it all :-o :-)
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... maybe change the hue slightly of that ^^^^ grey to make it fit better into the whole "blue" theme ;-)
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@ Wayne
Looking good now :-)
Anyway, I wasn't bitching, though my constructive suggestion was inferred rather than said outright :-)
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@Guys,
Considering that we can't change the actual box layout of Xoops version 1, I would WELCOME any of you out there to create an HTML mockup of exactly what you would like Amiga.org to look like. If any of you actually toss in an idea, we'll all vote on it and I'll do my best to make Amiga.org look like it.
Otherwise, what I'm getting is
User1 - "Argh! The light blue!"
User2 - "I Love the blue"
User3 - "You really should change the grey"
User4 - "I really like the grey".
In other words, since each of you has drastically different configs and some of you are operating in a very minimalistic primal "8 color scheme" (seemingly), we are getting no where.
Until which time as i see bonafide mockups, I'll just have to go with how it looks on my monitor (1024x768, millions of colors).
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amiga.org still doesn't validate :-(
http://validator.w3.org (http://validator.w3.org)
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amiga.org still doesn't validate
...and it never will, thanks to the lax programming of the Xoops team and their desire to go XML and abandon HTML.
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Otherwise, what I'm getting is
User1 - "Argh! The light blue!"
User2 - "I Love the blue"
User3 - "You really should change the grey"
User4 - "I really like the grey".
:roflmao:
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Wayne wrote:
amiga.org still doesn't validate
...and it never will, thanks to the lax programming of the Xoops team and their desire to go XML and abandon HTML.
There's nothing XML with the generated HTML code (it's SGML-HTML, not XHTML) - it just seems like the Xoops team is plain lazy :-)
I work as a professional web developer, and although it's good that a site validates it's not always necessary (IMHO). Most of the time you'll have to work from the design and get the site to look good and function on the following browsers; Mac: IE5+, NS6+, PC: IE5+, NS6+, preferably Opera, Linux: Mozilla, preferably also Opera and Konqueror.
To this it should be added that the MSIE team for the Mac and Win32 versions are two different teams developing two different browser cores. This makes for a lot of interesting bugs in the Mac versions.
Fact is, that Mozilla (Gekko) is the most standards-compliant browser so far. Try running that on a PII 333MHz :-)
Then there's the specialized sites like amiga.org. They should work on all of the above, the three Amiga browsers and preferably some other ones too (like that new one for MacOSX, whatchacallit... oh yeah, Safari!)
Point being? Well, as long as the sites work on all of the above, I wouldn't really care if it validates or not. :-D
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you know what i do like about the new look? its a bit more 'mature looking'!
sort of more sensible :-)
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@carls,
Care to take a look at the code of Xoops 1.3.x and our theme and do your best at making it compliant? I've been trying for weeks, and it appears as though it'll take the hand removal of almost 2000 seperate calls as well as rewriting the header function. Not something I normally have a lot of time with really.
Wayne
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@Wayne
Here's an example of something invalid (in the tag):
leftmargin="0" topmargin="0" marginwidth="0" etc.
Although not allowed, most browsers can handle this and I suppose it's needed to make the top logo look good. This should really be done with CSS, but no Amiga browser supports CSS and it would make the page look like crap on these browsers.
Like I said before, IMHO it's a useless task trying to make a site like this compliant as long as it works as intended in the target browsers.
After adding a doctype declaration to the top of an amiga.org HTML file the W3C validator gives me over 70 errors.
Yes, the code could be made XHTML1.0 or HTML4.01 compliant, but then it wouldn't look very good in Amiga browsers and it would probably take a week or so of hard work.
I'm sorry, but I have to refuse your offer :)
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is it just me - or has the title at the top of the page just changed again?
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@iama
Changed from, or to what? I'm afraid I haven't changed anything about the header. I did "activate" the private messages so that if you have a new message waiting, that line is a different color, but that's as close to the top as I've gotten lately.
Wayne