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Title: Toaster Flyer I almost won :-(.
Post by: Jeff on October 15, 2005, 05:18:54 AM
I won this auction fair and square and paid for it instantly. The seller has changed the shipping cost to $55.00 instead of the $5.00 stated in the auction.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8705573797&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

I am negotiating a refund, but it sounds fishy. So far I am out $261.00 for nothing. I am just about through with eBay totally this time:madashell:

Thanks for letting me vent!

Jeff
Title: Re: Toaster Flyer I almost won :-(.
Post by: roguebeck on October 15, 2005, 05:23:16 AM
Turn him into Ebay, for sure, he listed the shipping at $5, it's his responsibility to verify that his listing is correct. I mean geeze, he had a whole week to realize it said $5.

An auction is a contract... doesn't it say that all over the freaking site? ;-)
Title: Re: Toaster Flyer I almost won :-(.
Post by: Jeff on October 15, 2005, 05:41:10 AM
Just completed the report.  We'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Toaster Flyer I almost won :-(.
Post by: Darth_X on October 15, 2005, 07:46:54 AM
You did inform the ebay seller that he/she made an error on their auction listing first, right?
Title: Re: Toaster Flyer I almost won :-(.
Post by: harima_kun on October 15, 2005, 08:06:46 AM
Apparently it is allowed now to change the shipping after having won the auction, that is legal now on ebay.
Title: Re: Toaster Flyer I almost won :-(.
Post by: Effy on October 15, 2005, 08:25:35 AM
If the buyer lives in another country than the ones that are listed, then yes. If I buy something on Ebay Germany and no other country than Germany is listed, then the seller is allowed to raise shipping costs if the buyer lives outside Germany, like me in Belgium. But on the auction that Jeff won is clearly written that shipping costs to the USA are 5 USD and for worldwide shipping it´s also 5 USD ... as far as I see it the seller has not legal base to raise his shipping costs  :-)
Title: Re: Toaster Flyer I almost won :-(.
Post by: Acill on October 15, 2005, 12:33:10 PM
I would have just paid the $45 more! You got those two cards for a VERY low price. With shipping it still comes to less then half of what they go for most of the time. I've seen a Toaster 4000 alone sell for $400.
Title: Re: Toaster Flyer I almost won :-(.
Post by: spihunter on October 15, 2005, 02:10:30 PM
I second that. I've never seen a set up toaster flyer cards go for that low. That same seller had them at a "by it now" last week for $600 USD
Title: Re: Toaster Flyer I almost won :-(.
Post by: Jeff on October 15, 2005, 03:01:48 PM
Check this out, he made the SAME mistake in all 5 of these auctions?
 http://search-completed.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=so&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sadis=200&fpos=98036&fis=2&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&seller=1&sass=pusutomo21&so=Show+Items&fsop=1&fsoo=1

Sure it's probably worth the extra money, but I am leary about sending another $50.00 to this guy. What do you think?

Jeff
Title: Re: Toaster Flyer I almost won :-(.
Post by: c64_d0c on October 15, 2005, 03:10:43 PM
i never use ebay... alot of people on that site is robbing others...
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Title: Re: Toaster Flyer I almost won :-(.
Post by: J-Golden on October 15, 2005, 03:44:24 PM
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Jeff wrote:
Check this out, he made the SAME mistake in all 5 of these auctions?
 http://search-completed.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=so&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sadis=200&fpos=98036&fis=2&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&seller=1&sass=pusutomo21&so=Show+Items&fsop=1&fsoo=1

Sure it's probably worth the extra money, but I am leary about sending another $50.00 to this guy. What do you think?

Jeff


Mistakes are mistakes.  but if nothing bad happens or a big deal isn't made then it isn't a learning experience.  The dude said $5 and that is what it should cost..

BTW, from where to where is it going?  If in side US, that I din't see it costing that much.  I sent  fully loaded A1200 Tower UPS and it only cost $35...

J-Golden
Title: Re: Toaster Flyer I almost won :-(.
Post by: vic20owner on October 15, 2005, 04:20:51 PM

I say just buy it and live with the shipping cost... if it gets too out of control, then just neg him.
Title: Re: Toaster Flyer I almost won :-(.
Post by: amigadave on October 15, 2005, 04:55:36 PM
Jeff, it does sound a little strange to me that the items are listed as being located in Japan with a shipping cost of $5 to the USA, but I think you won the items at a great discount price and if you really wanted them should have paid the extra $50 and been happy.  If you paid through Paypal on eBay you should have been somewhat protected from losing your money if the auction was a total scam.

I have bought a lot of Amiga stuff on eBay and only been burned a few times, getting broken items.
Title: Re: Toaster Flyer I almost won :-(.
Post by: Jeff on October 16, 2005, 12:05:53 AM
He refunded and I'll just find someone closer in the US. Everyone is happy :-).  I think he really wanted more money anyway, so this offered him a way out also. We both learned something from it.

Jeff
Title: Re: Toaster Flyer I almost won :-(.
Post by: TjLaZer on October 16, 2005, 03:07:44 AM
Dude did you really expect to pay $5 for shipping all that to Seattle?  I would of paid the diff.
Title: Re: Toaster Flyer I almost won :-(.
Post by: Jeff on October 16, 2005, 03:12:46 AM
What I expected was to pay what the auction stated. I would have paid the $55.00 if I had agreed to it when I first read the auction.

The fact that the buyer listed it one way and changed terms after the fact is what I refused to agree with, and that's just the way I am.  Everyone has their quirks I guess:-).

Title: Re: Toaster Flyer I almost won :-(.
Post by: adolescent on October 16, 2005, 03:44:54 AM
I got screwed the same way.  I won a special edition C64 pack and paid $30 shipping (which should have been enough).  The seller didn't send for a month or so and then finally says I need to pay $20 more because she mis-calculated.  I refused and asked for a refund.  After another month still nothing so I filed complaints with PayPal, eBay/SafeHarbor, and my credit card company.  PayPal and CC couldn't do anything because too much time had passed.  eBay didn't care that I had been ripped off (ie. I didn't have any product, or my money), and basicly took the sellers side.  Eventually, I got the C64 but without the extras that were offered in the auction.  (As well as a retaliation negative feedback.)  Good luck with your situation, it seems the buyers are always on the losing end.  
Title: Re: Toaster Flyer I almost won :-(.
Post by: TjLaZer on October 16, 2005, 03:46:32 AM
Well I have been on ebay since 1997 and I sometimes had to pay more or less from the listed shipping cost.  See the problem is you have to enter an amount before you actually box up and take it to the Post Office and know the buyers zip code so you never really know the real ammount.  Some sellers take advantage of it and just charge more than it would be, thus pocketting the difference.  When I sell I enter an estimate and always tell the buyer what the real amount is after the auction has ended.  And I also had the same thing happen with real lost ship cost and when the seller informed me of hight I said well no problem, as long as they were not raping me.  Surely you knew it would cost more than $5 to ship it right?  :crazy:  

I see your point though, but since it was a steal I would of gone for it.  Now if it was a single boxed Amiga game or something with the shipping charge over the top I would of said, see ya!
Title: Re: Toaster Flyer I almost won :-(.
Post by: Jeff on October 16, 2005, 05:33:19 AM
Actually I have included shipping FREE on some of my auctions.  Sometimes that can attract more buyers and higher bid amounts. I might sell an item at $100.00 and charge 25.00 in actual shipping costs, or low ball the shipping at $5.00 and it sells for $150.00 or more and I eat the difference.

Anyway I wouldn't have let ALL 5 auctions run the course without a correction if they were mine.  I would have also offered to split the difference in shipping with the buyer at $25.00 each if I couldn't afford to eat it.

Anyway the seller and I resolved it and we both learned something from it. In the future I will question low shipping costs before I bid on an item, my fault.

I probably should have just paid it, but another deal will come along someday. Thanks to TJ and everyone for all of their input.

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TjLaZer wrote:
Surely you knew it would cost more than $5 to ship it right?  :crazy: