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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: Sparky on September 30, 2005, 10:31:26 PM
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Looking for a way to make an A1000 run a little quicker :-)
Send me a message if you have one you can part with.
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look for any of these in eBay might be your only choice
http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showcat.cgi?CATID=4
or build your own :-)
http://www.funet.fi/pub/amiga/hardware/accelerators/
enjoy
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Hello Sparky in New Zealand! One of the most beautiful places on the face of this earth and home of some of the friendliest people too.
What are you using your A1000 for, just old games? If yes, your speed problem is more likely a problem of waiting for the floppy disk drive to read/load data to RAM. The solution to that is a hard drive controller, not an accellerator. If you are trying to use the A1000 for anything serious, you would be better off looking for a later model Amiga like the A3000 or A4000 which can be expanded to do almost anything you would want to do with any computer.
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the 14mhz hack in the above link really does work quite well. i didnt check to see if it was the one with the switch to allow you to change speed on the fly but either work really well and arent to difficult to do. there is also a hack to put sram in an a1000 but that doesnt give as much of a speedup
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i had two 1000's back in the day one was given to me, a 3000 or 4000 might be better for more serious work but the a1000 is my alltime byfar most favvvority computer ever. it has a sleek cool case and cool keyboard. i hacked one to death with extra ram etc. and the other died of natual causes. my 3000 has a similar coolness to it but isnt as slick, the 2000 and 4000 arent even close.
i think ill go and check ebay for a1000s again :-D
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I won't part with mine, but if you can find a CSA Derringer, that will work well in the 1000. Plus, you can have up to 32 megs of 32 bit ram with it.
Paul
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Paul wrote:
I won't part with mine, but if you can find a CSA Derringer, that will work well in the 1000. Plus, you can have up to 32 megs of 32 bit ram with it.
Paul
Good luck finding that... I'd snap one up if it were avaiable. I could probably troll ebay for 6 months and not find one for sale.
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@ KThunder,
I totally agree, the A1000 was my favorite design with the keyboard garage. I still have mine w/Spirit Insider 1.5mb RAM expander, 105mb HD inside where DF0: used to be, and a Kwikstart ROM switcher. I have not fired it up in years but will get it out again some day. I also have another A1000 that was given to me that I plan to gut and build into a WinUAE super emulated Amiga like Kermit from Nova Designs did a couple of years ago (only better).
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I got two working A1000 recently, one with keyboard but no cable and the other one without keyboard. I´m thinking how OS3.1 would look like on such a baby :) Never had one before :)
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@ Effy,
It will look just like it does on the A500 and stock A2000 w/68000's, s l o w . . . . . yawn! Personally, I don't know why anyone would want to run anything past 1.3 or 2.04 on a stock A1000. Enjoy it for what it is and modify the heck out of your other Amigas to do the heavy computing work/play.
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@amigadave:
3.1 is quite much faster than 1.3 and 2.04, especially when it comes to graphic operations - this most definately on a plain 68000. If you dont believe me take a plain 68000 machine and try opening some windows and move them around on 1.3/2.04, then try the same under 3.1.
/Patrik
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Patrik, You are right, I was thinking of 3.9, not 3.1.
But then most old programs that were written for 1.1, 1.2, and 1.3 don't run well or at all on 3.1 or higher. My point is that if the A1000 is still stock, no hard drive or accellerator, what good is it to run 3.1 or higher with those old floppy disk programs. Maybe I am wrong and there is benefit? If the original poster installs an accellerator in his A1000 he will be able to run whatever Amiga OS he wants (except 4.0, unless he can figure out a way to install a PPC)
The stock A1000 doesn't even have a ROM socket and to my knowledge there are no 3.1 Kickstart floppy's available because 3.1 can't fit on one 880kb disk, can it?
For me, the A1000 is just for old programs and games, but that is just me. :-D
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@amigadave:
Most stuff should run just fine on 3.1, as long as it isnt doing something terribly wierd stuff that breaks compability - like amiga basic for example. Anyone has any other examples?
IMHO 2.04 and up is much easier to use and powerful compared to 1.x. If no applications you use only works on 1.x, there is no reason not to use say 3.1 when it is faster, more powerful, etc. Ofcourse I understand that it might break that authentic A1000 feeling ;=).
The 880kB floppy is no problem, the 2.04 and 3.1 kickstart is only 512kB large, but the storage for the kickstart in the A1000 (the WOM) is to small to fit kickstart 2.04 or 3.1. If you have some extra fastmem in your A1000, you can use twinkick (http://www.aminet.net/package.php?package=util/sys/twinkick.lha) to create a 3.1 kickstart disk for it.
You could also hack a 2.04 or 3.1 rom into it like this (http://de.aminet.net/pub/aminet/hard/hack/20rom_A1000.lha). That one could be done quite nice without piggy-backing etc.
/Patrik
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amigadave wrote:
Hello Sparky in New Zealand! One of the most beautiful places on the face of this earth and home of some of the friendliest people too.
What are you using your A1000 for, just old games? If yes, your speed problem is more likely a problem of waiting for the floppy disk drive to read/load data to RAM. The solution to that is a hard drive controller, not an accellerator. If you are trying to use the A1000 for anything serious, you would be better off looking for a later model Amiga like the A3000 or A4000 which can be expanded to do almost anything you would want to do with any computer.
But not really expect it to turn on the cofee machine? :-?
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amigadave wrote:
@ KThunder,
I totally agree, the A1000 was my favorite design with the keyboard garage. I still have mine w/Spirit Insider 1.5mb RAM expander, 105mb HD inside where DF0: used to be, and a Kwikstart ROM switcher. I have not fired it up in years but will get it out again some day. I also have another A1000 that was given to me that I plan to gut and build into a WinUAE super emulated Amiga like Kermit from Nova Designs did a couple of years ago (only better).
Then you two cannot be friends!!
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um sorry amigadave narayan says we cant be friends :boohoo:
but thats ok because he is a chatbot
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Well, at the risk of being a "chat box" too, I'll ignore narayan's comment about who I can be friends with and also say that I am sure that with a little work, any Amiga can be programmed to turn on the coffee pot, or what ever he said it can't do. I remember some software and hardware module switches to turn on and off electronic devices that were compatible with an Amiga controller shareware/freeware program.
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Hello,
sorry i don't have a accelerator for sale,but i thought you might like to hear how far these old a1000's can be pushed.I have installed the following in mine:
DCE Viper 520CD 68020/33mhz,8M ram,3.0 roms(uses A1200 roms),and a 2.5" 540M ide HD.workbench 3.1
i have now added a Compact flash card to ide adapter,using a 512M compact flash card(these cards can be had up to 4+gig and 80x+ speeds!).
the CF is quite snappy,ultra low power draw,and works very well!i wish i could afford a nice 4 gig one.
i just recieved a laptop cdrom drive,24x with a ITX to IDE adapter,this too is about to be installed in the 1000,it will have to open toward the back tho,since thats the only place i have room for it.
I've also added a X-surf ethernet card to the side,i used a old trumpcard 500 expansion to do this,since inside these are basically 2 zorro connectors with a trumpcard scsi card plugged in,it was a natural to add ethernet this way.i managed to get it on the lan to the internet with miamiDX,surfing in Ibrowse2.3 all on this loaded down A1000!
its pretty ugly in 16 colors,but its quite snappy with the 020/33
i really wanted to add a old zorro 2 video card,but unfortunately i dont have any :(
i have no doubt it would work just fine tho!. it would also fix the 512K chip ram.luckily ibrowse can be set to run in all fastram to get by this limitation also.
a 2M megachip and ecs agnus/denise would really be sweet but thats no small hack. ;)
ram of course is at a premium!
why do all this? its a exercise in pushing old hardware basically,the A1000 is remarkably backward compatible with many newer addons,and works stable and flawless!.pretty good for something engineered in 85' or so.
same principle as the guys pushing c64's.
Mike
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I would shudder to think Classic Amiga purists would even consider cutting up such a beautiful system like the A1000. :-o