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Title: Cybervision 64 issues (or.. for the love of gawd doesn't anything work?!?!)
Post by: icbrkr on September 27, 2005, 12:43:35 AM
If it's not one thing with my A3000, it's another.

Installed a 2MB Cybervision64 card on my 3000.  It's detected, and it brings up the splash screen just fine.  I go to prefs, change it to any Cybervision mode, it works for about 10 seconds and gurus with a 8000 0004 7002268.  So far, I've tried:

Removing Visual Prefs, Magic WB, or any other patch in WBStartup

Removing other Zorro cards.

I set the jumper on the card to "older Buster" mode as I do not have a rev 11.

Ideas??
Title: Re: Cybervision 64 issues (or.. for the love of gawd doesn't anything work?!?!)
Post by: Matt_H on September 27, 2005, 12:55:35 AM
Which RTG system are you using? You might need to throw some ENV vars for your card.
Title: Re: Cybervision 64 issues (or.. for the love of gawd doesn't anything work?!?!)
Post by: icbrkr on September 27, 2005, 01:12:12 AM
None yet... I'm just using standard drivers that came with it.
Title: Re: Cybervision 64 issues (or.. for the love of gawd doesn't anything work?!?!)
Post by: icbrkr on September 27, 2005, 01:58:07 AM
Slapped in an older HD with 3.1 on it - works fine in there... an issue with 3.9 (or my 3.9?!)
Title: Re: Cybervision 64 issues (or.. for the love of gawd doesn't anything work?!?!)
Post by: dnelsonfl on September 27, 2005, 02:40:27 AM
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icbrkr wrote:
Slapped in an older HD with 3.1 on it - works fine in there... an issue with 3.9 (or my 3.9?!)


With OS 3.9 and CybergraphX, you really need CyberGraphX v4 (see item #16 on this link (http://www.gregdonner.org/os39faq/compatibility.html#16)). Picasso96 should also work under 3.9.

-David
Title: Re: Cybervision 64 issues (or.. for the love of gawd doesn't anything work?!?!)
Post by: icbrkr on September 27, 2005, 02:49:56 AM
Sounds like a plan, however, the link is dead :/  I'll look around.
Title: Re: Cybervision 64 issues (or.. for the love of gawd doesn't anything work?!?!)
Post by: dnelsonfl on September 27, 2005, 04:24:14 AM
I just flushed my caches and tried the link again; it's working. ??

I'll just put the whole thing here:

http://www.gregdonner.org/os39faq/compatibility.html

And look at item #16. Maybe the #16 at the end threw your browser off.
Title: Re: Cybervision 64 issues (or.. for the love of gawd doesn't anything work?!?!)
Post by: patrik on September 27, 2005, 09:51:47 AM
@icbrkr:

Remove the CyberGraphX v2 installation completely (DEVS:Monitors/CV#?, LIBS:cyber#?, LIBS:cgx#?, ENVARC:cybergraphics) and then install the latest free CyberGraphX - v3 (http://www.meanmachine.ch/~vgr/cgxv41_r71.lha). If that still doesnt make it stable, edit your S:Startup-Sequence and change "C:LoadWB" at the end to "C:LoadWB SIMPLEGELS".


/Patrik
Title: Re: Cybervision 64 issues (or.. for the love of gawd doesn't anything work?!?!)
Post by: icbrkr on September 27, 2005, 12:31:34 PM
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dnelsonfl wrote:
I just flushed my caches and tried the link again; it's working. ??

I'll just put the whole thing here:

http://www.gregdonner.org/os39faq/compatibility.html

And look at item #16. Maybe the #16 at the end threw your browser off.


Sorry, I meant the link to the download was bad, not the webpage itself :)

Patrik:  Going to try that.. thanks.
Title: Re: Cybervision 64 issues (or.. for the love of gawd doesn't anything work?!?!)
Post by: TjLaZer on September 27, 2005, 04:56:52 PM
I ended up going Picasso 96 and the card works great on OS 3.9!
Title: Re: Cybervision 64 issues (or.. for the love of gawd doesn't anything work?!?!)
Post by: dnelsonfl on September 27, 2005, 06:37:39 PM
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TjLaZer wrote:
I ended up going Picasso 96 and the card works great on OS 3.9!


I'm glad to hear you got yours working. Mine, on the other hand, seems to have gone the way of the great byte in the sky.  :-(  Early-startup shows it as "working" but all I get are bus errors on a 3000 and a 4000. Makes me wonder if early-startup really tells me anything other than the card was able to auto-config.

Title: Re: Cybervision 64 issues (or.. for the love of gawd doesn't anything work?!?!)
Post by: x56h34 on September 27, 2005, 06:41:01 PM
Early-menu stating "card working" mearly means that basic communication between Zorro bus and the card is OK (e.g. device inserted, receives power, simple stuff like that). There could be a heap load of other problems which could still make the card non working even though the early-menu states the card is working, such as bad on-board memory, dead Gfx chip, bad traces, etc.
Title: Re: Cybervision 64 issues (or.. for the love of gawd doesn't anything work?!?!)
Post by: dnelsonfl on September 27, 2005, 07:07:20 PM
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x56h34 wrote:
Early-menu stating "card working" mearly means that basic communication between Zorro bus and the card is OK [...]


Thanks for the confirmation - that's what I figured. Looks to be bad on-board memory. Picasso96 and CybergraphX both give bus errors at the same addresses on both Amigas. Pity. Now I need to buy a replacement. Make that two... one for each Amiga.
Title: Re: Cybervision 64 issues (or.. for the love of gawd doesn't anything work?!?!)
Post by: patrik on September 27, 2005, 07:11:15 PM
@dnelsonfl:

Have you tried running the CV64 in slow buster mode?


/Patrik
Title: Re: Cybervision 64 issues (or.. for the love of gawd doesn't anything work?!?!)
Post by: icbrkr on September 28, 2005, 12:40:11 AM
@Patrik: Worked fine - thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Cybervision 64 issues (or.. for the love of gawd doesn't anything work?!?!)
Post by: dnelsonfl on September 28, 2005, 03:17:46 AM
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patrik wrote:

Have you tried running the CV64 in slow buster mode?


@Patrick,

Yes, and also tried it with rev 7, 9, and 11 busters in both. I've tried every combination I could think of. The results are identical, and repeatable despite changing so many parameters. The only constant is the Cybervision. So it must be that. Shame, really.

-David
Title: Re: Cybervision 64 issues (memory chips?)
Post by: ckillerh3 on September 28, 2005, 03:34:25 AM
Hi -

I had a Cybervision 64 with 2 meg and later added another 2 meg from a PC video card that looked to have the same memory chips.  Any chance you can just pull/swap the memory instead of tossing the whole card?  
Title: Re: Cybervision 64 issues (memory chips?)
Post by: dnelsonfl on September 28, 2005, 04:55:08 PM
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Any chance you can just pull/swap the memory instead of tossing the whole card?  


@ckillerh3:

I had already removed the socketed 2MB, so if it is a memory fault it must lie with one of the soldered chips. I imagine a good, skilled tech might be able to carefully remove the soldered chips and replace them. But I don't have the right tools or the skills. I've only progressed to basic soldering so far. I'm learning. :)

-David